O.T.R. sleever

My experience with alcohol post sleeve is that it isomer of a roller coaster ride. I get buzzed a lot quicker, and the buzz comes and goes rather quickly. I've had moments where I was flying high, then a few minutes later felt nothing then started feeling it again. It is not as bad now as it was the first few months post op, but I do still feel it faster, and it ebbs & flows more now than pre op. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that since you really do not have much stomach left to hold liqueur, it passes much more quickly to the intestine where it is absorbed rapidly.

And I had my first drink somewhere just after 6weeks.

so how do you pick the right coordinator?

The best thing is to decide which surgeon you want to use, then choose a coordinator that works with that surgeon & is well reviewed. Some surgeons do employ their own coordinator so if you choose one of those surgeons then you won't have any other options on which coordinator to use. Do you have any certain surgeon in mind?

Okay' date=' I DO NOT NEED ADVICE ABOUT SCHOOL. I need advice at how to address the situation with the doctors office. The coordinator created this delimma. I need them to correct it. I need advice about how I should go about approaching the situation.[/quote']

Your only real chance there is IF you can speak directly to the surgeon MAYBE he can get your case expedited. But the chances of getting surgery within a week is very slim.

Unfortuantely' date=' the classes are not offered online. They are with the Univeristy of Colorado. I have 3 full ride scholarships, and will be starting my junior year on May 20th. If I do not take the summer classes, I will not be able to graduate in May of 2014 because certain required classes are only offered certain semesters. It is run on a cohort model. I start grad school July 2014. If I do not enter that cohort, I will be unable to start until July 2015...Thus, there are serious implications

My next break is not until the the begining of May 2014 and July 2014.

I have done everything my insurance compan and surgeon office has told me to do.

It's not my fault someone was not paying attention.

I am married, have two kids, and care for an elderly reletive. My scholarships are for the University and have strict policies. My schooling cost nearly 15,000 a semester, yes, per semester. I intend on graduating without student loan debt. I had to work hard to get my scholarships.

My scholarships don't require summer term, however they do require that I graduate by a specific time. I have to do as the requirements say, because it's not my money...... I am the investment....

The University only offers specific classes during specific semesters.

I'm sorry but I don't need advice about school. I'm a 4.0 student. I need advice about how to deal with someone elses MASSIVE mistake.[/quote']

About all you can do is talk to your instructor/professor and explain your predicament. Ask him/her if choosing between your education & your health is your only option. Chances are with foreknowledge of your surgery date he/she will likely be willing to give you the class agenda and allow you to work ahead of schedule. If you can get a couple weeks ahead of the class you should be ok to rejoin a couple weeks after surgery. It may not be ideal, but I felt well enough that I could have driven to and attended classes about 4days post op.

The funny thing is almost EVERYONE disagrees with you. When that happens it makes you wonder who is the hard headed ignorant one?

So, you view lying as an acceptable practice? This is what you teach your children?

So if you go to the doctor and someone asks you why' date=' you don't have a problem telling a coworker that it "burns when you pee" and you have a "smelly discharge from your genitals"?

Instead of just saying you weren't feeling well?

Not everyone needs to know everything. People have an actual RIGHT to privacy.

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Hmm, this is a situation you've dealt with? Sorry, I cannot relate.

Ok' date=' as you might have read in my confession, I had a slip and got back up to 196lbs(201 with cloths on). I'm back on track as of a couple weeks ago & I'm happy to report that as of this week I'm down to 190lbs.[/quote']

5/11/13

186 this morning. Moving slow, but in the right direction.

I've seen several people say they're coordinators' date=' and are less than two months post-op. How does one become a coordinator? What's the incentive/ pay for talking to potential clients? For booking people? I'm not interested (at least atm- never say never lol) in being a coordinator, but just confused at what happens and wondering if it's all on the up and up. I don't mean to offend anyone. I've just never seen a business that uses so many recent clients to gather more business for their service provider, and I'm wondering how knowledgeable coordinators that are six weeks post-op can be, to be advising potential sleevers about their journeys.[/quote']

Coordinator can range from someone who simply a broker that takes a fee to connect you to a surgeon to a person that handles all of your arrangements for your surgery (typically with exception of air travel). It usually doesn't take long for the non service oriented "coordinators" to get a bad reputatation and leave the business. Being a coordinator really if done properly, is not all that lucrative. Yes, you can make a living at it, but, for the time invested you really need to get your satisfaction from knowing that you are helping people improve their life. If its about money, there are much easier & faster ways.

I just got out of the hospital and they said gallbladder was acting up and they mentioned trying a vegan lifestyle. My husband and I have talked about this a lot and we are thinking of trying. My surgery was back in Oct 2012 and I eat so little I'm afraid I won't get the needed nutrients. I am just so over meat! I want veggies in my life!!!!

I highly recommend watching the documentary "Forks over Knives". Even Vegan diets tend to have a lot of unhealthy food in them. The best you can do is a plant based whole food diet, or as close to it as you can get. I've gotten to he point where I am about 60-70% plant based whole foods & I can say it has made a huge difference. Now if I could only get the last 30-40% I think I'd be great.

O.T.R.- http://www.verticals...hl__sex__st__40

Quotes from that thread

"FYI' date=' I'm STD free & had a vasectomy. And I'm mobile"

"Yup, she (wife) knows everything."

"I make trips to Ohio (wink)"

I happened to remember this thread from a while ago. I'm not sure if you were joking around but it sure does seem like you'd be willing to hook up with people, even though you're married. To each their own. I also think I remember you making a comment about being able to do "house calls" since you travel a lot. Every marriage is different. That wouldn't work for my marriage but don't worry......... I wont force my beliefs on you.[/quote']

You are right, every marriage is different. And as I posted in that post, "my wife knows everything". She knows exactly what I've posted, she actually has full access to my acct. Let me assure you that "if" I were to actually engage Another woman sexually, it wouldn't be cheating, as I would have full consent, I do not hide anything from my wife. And if I were to act upon such a desire, it sure as hell wouldn't be with someone I've only met across a computer screen. And believe me, I do know a hing or two about discretion, so if it were any more than over the top flirting it surely would not be on a public forum for the world to see.

I am also wondering why this left turn in this thread. A thread about "what to tell others about weightloss", Laura & you have decided to steer toward my sex life. Very interesting how when you apparently cannot defend your position on he subject at hand, you search out another avenue to attack people with opposing viewpoints. Nice try though.

OTR anyone that's been here for an amount of time' date=' has seen you try and pick up on women here and put it out there that you are available even though you are married!

Where you joking all these times? I guess you can say you were? Who am I to argue!

I will say that you being a moderator and talking like that kinda made my skin crawl but hey to each his own right?

oh and if you are going to say that it never happened? Wouldn't that be a lie??

Might be time to kick my butt outta here huh?[/quote']

If I were to say that I actually said that I did sleep with anybody on this forum, that would be a lie. But, I don't believe you can point to anywhere where I did claim that. Kind of makes your statement a bit presumptuous, doesn't it?

And to be honest with you' date=' she doesn't have the title of moderator. Can you tell me what that title means here? I'm confused, because it doesn't seem to include the same expectations that are true in other forums I've been engaged with.

EDIT: sorry, that sounds snarky, but I honestly want to know the answer, because I don't see moderation happening from any moderator. If that's expected, it would be good to know that we shouldn't rely on moderators to avoid fanning flames or to try and settle things down.

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A moderators job here is basically to address violations of forum policy. We do not stifle debate, we do not shut people down. Unless it comes to personal attacks. I can tell you 90% of the moderation on this forum happens in PM. If you an administrative type post, you can be assured that it is because forum rules have been violated more that once or so egregiously that a public action was necessary.

Well, would you please educate me on where I cheated on my marriage. That is one heck of an accusation. Good thing you are not a moderator.

Some days I wish we had a moderator around here....

I'm guessing that is a jab at me? To be honest, some of the worst post in this thread are yours.

But then that's my opinion.

Congrats on getting back on track Bill. I think pretty much all of us that are over 6months post op know that sometimes it can be a struggle. But you have what it takes to get the job done. I recently fell off the wagons myself, I really does feel good to get back on and see those numbers start heading in the right direction. I look forwarward to more updates from you. Good luck!!

Name calling should not be encouraged though..

Ok, where did I call people names?

Please direct me to a specific post.

Subject of this thread:- IDEAS OF WHAT TO TELL PEOPLE??? NOT. IS IT OK TO LIE OR NOT!??? dde12

Very correct, and my idea of what to tell people is the truth. Why do I get attacked for that?

And BTW, Apple emoticons don't show up on this forum.

OMG' date=' I haven't laughed this hard in a long time! Y'all are so funny.[/quote']

Hu hu, she said "hard" hu hu

People never cease to amaze me.

They advocate lying then attack people who simply say "honesty is the best policy".

One simple question. Why attack someone for recommending the exact thing that we were all taught as children?

This is your attempt at telling me and others what we should do/say!. It's not up to you to decide what is and isn't an appropriate response to a question about how we lost the weight. You were also very vague when answering my questions and I guess I'm vague when it comes to my response about surgery............ we have something in common. Your integrity is YOUR INTEGRITY! You can't apply those standards to everyone else and then try to shame them for doing something that you wouldn't do. If you personally didn't care about whether or not people shared their surgery' date=' then you wouldn't use words such as "dishonest" or "(lack) integrity". To me those words imply that we are lying. If you didn't care then there would be no discussion at all, it would be..... do whats right for you *end of story*.[/quote']

As I previously stated. We happen to disagree on this subject.

That's your OPINION that it's a lie by omission. It's also another attempt to shame someone into disclosing something that they consider private' date=' which in this case happens to be surgery. Are you saying that you are willing to share any and everything with strangers when asked?[/quote']

We will just have to disagree on this one. As I stated earlier. I really don't care whether you do or don't tell about your surgery.

You can tell people that you don't want to talk about it. That is a truth, and maintains your privacy. But when you calculate what you tell people in order to make them believe something other than reality, IN MY OPINION that is dishonest. Maybe not technically a lie, but still dishonest. Sorry, but to me my integrity means more to me than some random strangers opinion.

Would you be open to sharing all this info with people who you barely know in person? It's easy to be open and honest on a forum' date=' so it doesn't surprise me that you would be fine with answering these questions because of the anonymity of the internet. Being honest is also saying that you are watching what you eat and eating smaller portions, that's not a lie and it is a totally valid/truthful response also.[/quote']

A lie of omission is still a lie.

I'm not arguing with anyone but I did propose (define: to engage in talk or discussion) a question to those who believe that we should be "truthful" and "honest". Would those who feel open about discussing their surgery' date=' also be open to discussing the number of people they've slept with, how much money they make, how much they spend shopping, how much debt, financial/marital issues, sexual abuse, STDs, etc?

It's not about keeping a "secret" for the rest of your life but merely about respecting someones decision to doing whats right for them and if that means taking their surgery to the grave, then fine. Neither decision is more right than the next. A lot of people come to forums like these so that they can share their journey and be open. VSG is not my life and I hardly ever think about but I didn't sign up to be the spokes person for this surgery.[/quote']

Some of the comparisons to list here are pretty unreasonable. For example, income. Openly exposing your income (if it is substantial) is dangerous, it makes you a target for identity theft, and has the potential of causing an immense amount of hassle from money grubbers.

Lets see,

number of sexual partners? IDK, but it's over 20

Income? Well above the national average

Spend shopping? More than I should, less than I can

Debt? I'M DEBT FREEEEE!!!!!

Financial issues? I always like more (but I am appreciative of what I have)

Marital issues? Pretty much revolve around kids.

There you go. All answers are "truthful" or "honest". I believe those terms are interchangeable.

Another "Honest" response might be, "I'm not comfortable sharing right now." Or "I'd rather not say." .

I haven't seen anybody insinuate that anyone needs to divulge anything they are not comfortable with. What I have seen is people saying "don't lie".

Besides' date=' more exposed skin means more exposed nerve endings to titillate ...[/quote']

I wonder about this. It's a big debate. For example, it is common theory that an uncircumcised male is actually more sensitive because that skin is less often exposed. Then again, I'm not sure if I could handle being more sensitive.

Hear that OTR! Haha she got you! O_o

I'm only hoping that she is using sarcasm;)