Catracks

I just figured I'd copy the My Fitness Pal data in here. I suppose almost 7 oz. of shrimp sounds like a lot, but I eat it over the space of two hours. I eat all my meals like this. It just works for me. This strategy would not work if I didn't plan, weigh and measure everything I eat though. I remarked on another thread that this seems to be a lot of food for 750 calories - especially when I compare my menu to others who are supplementing with Protein shakes. I hardly ever have one unless I feel like it.

You menu seems great, but I would like to warn you against eating microwave popcorn. The oils they use have shown to be poisonous. It better for you and cheaper to pop it yourself over the stove in a little olive oil.

Yes, the fillet in panko breading is not very smart, but they've been sitting in the freezer for too long. Besides, they fit in. I didn't go over on fats and carbs. I don't do bread often and if I do it's some whole grain nut stuff. I sauteed the shrimp in butter, garlic salt, cayenne, cinnamon and coriander..

Breakfast

Chobani - Greek Yogurt Lemon 0%, 6 oz (170 g)

Best Choice - Sliced Almonds Natural Sliced, 1 tablespoon

lunch

Trader Joe's - Argentinian Red Shrimp (Wild/Uncooked), 6.67 ounces

Butter - Salted, 1 pat (1" sq, 1/3" high)

Lettuce - Cos or romaine, raw, 1 cup shredded

Kraft - Light - Parmesan Asiago Balsamic Vinaigrette Reduced Fat Dressing, 1 tbsp

Bel Gioioso - Caesar Blend Asiago, Parmesan, and Romano cheese - Shaved, 1 tbsp.

dinner

Generic Restaurant - Panko Crusted Cod, 5 oz

Broccoli Steamed - Broccoli, Steamed, Without Salt, 1/2 cup

Snacks

Stater Bros - Light String cheese, 1 Piece

Calories 750 Carbs 48 Fat 28 Protein 77 Fiber 5

I had an IV infiltration. They wanted to start a new IV on me an hour before discharge. I wouldn't let them. I should have had them take it out, but I thought my choices were keep it in or have a new one started. I should have demanded it out.

It was sore, bruised and hot to the touch for awhile. I could not tell if it was phlebitis or not. I really hate IVs. As someone else mentioned, it was more bothersome than the surgery for me. I never took pain meds after the first pain pump or morphine made me ill. Din't need it.

I am a year out, but from very early on I could eat a 6 oz. yogurt, but only 2-3 oz of more dense Protein like meat. Everyone's volume or capacity is a little different.

Just make sure you are getting 70-90 grams of Protein and log everything you eat on My Fitness Pal or some other site. Eat protein first ALWAYS and stay away from sugars, white flours, white rice, etc. They are simple carbs that turn to sugar too easily and are not nutritious.

Some are told not to count calories, but a couple months out I was getting 500-600 calories. From 5 months to now I have been getting 700-800 calories a day. I also eat under 30 grams of fat and less than 47 grams of carbohydrates.You're mileage will vary.

I am female and 5'1".

Mamma mia! How will I ever afford all that cereal?

Hallelujah!

Exactly 100 pounds lost.

Okay, based on the link and measuring with ribbon my stats are:

Body fat % = 26.77 (acceptable)

BMI = 27.58 (overweight)

Waist to hip ratio = .85 (moderate risk)

BMR = 1355.9 (Boy, with that kind of calorie deficit you'd think I'd lose more. I only eat under 800 - other factors at play right?)

I'm going to do this again tonight with a measuring tape in me birthday suit. I just couldn't wait.

Iggy - it didn't bring up your personal stats. There are scales out there that do measure body fat. I've seen them before. I don't remember how they work. I think it sends a small electrical pulse and it measures resistance in the tissue. I don't know how accurate they are.

I will use the link you gave me. I wish I had a measuring tape at work, but I will improvise.

Paul!!! Everyone must be SO proud of you. I am and I don't even know you!

Shar-Pei! LMAO!!! Paul, you look awesome in clothes and I bet you feel wonderful! I notice the skin most when I am swimming. Jumping up and down causes me to go one way and my skin to go the other. It's weird :-)

You're right. I think I will base my weight less 5 pounds of extra skin to be conservative. The weight is still very slowly coming off. Every month it fluctuates up and down, but there is always a slight downward trend.

Cat when I was in hospital this lovely nurse (ok actually she was a biot...umm I didn't like her LOL) but she said one lovely thing to me and that was that BMI is a terrible way to rate your health as you get down lower on the scale. She was in the overweight category and honey she didn't seem to have an ounce of fat on her. She is a weight lifter and distance runner with a very low fat ratio. She wasn't overdone at all, but she said she comes in at the lower end of overweight on the BMI chart. She works out with a guy who's obese according to the chart. He is a competitive athlete.

Did you ever follow that link I posted on MFP that had...gad I think it was four measurements of health. BMI, waist to hip ratio, fat percentage and there was one other....anyway it actually suggested my goal might be lower than I think it should be based on BMI alone (which would allow me to go down as low as 95lbs and still be in the normal range).

I didn't get that link. I could look it up though. I fear that the waist to hip ratio will not give me the answer I want. I have no hips.

Hey Catracks,

Goal weight is such a personal thing and a moving target for so many. I agree about not starving yourself and getting Protein first.

My Dr. had a chart that showed people who were in the overweight BMI range and exercised were healthier than those in the normal range who didn't. For those that exercised, the health difference between those in the normal range and the overweight range was minimal.

If you have extra skin that does add some weight and if you were heavy for a number of years, your weight bearing bones are probably thicker too.

For me, the big job is staying at goal weight. Sometimes those old habits really cry out to be satisfied I really hope that it's like when I quit smoking and that as the years go by, it will get easier and easier to say no to unhealthy eating habits.

Lynda

I would have no trouble whatsoever maintaining where I am now. I have been for almost two months now.

You know, I didn't think about my bones thickening somewhat do to weight bearing. I think I still have a small to medium frame though. I also now remember that I have no hips. My daughter on the other hand, has much more curvy hips.

I figure my skin must weigh close to 10 pounds. I should heave my apron on the scale. Too gross!

Thanks Dawg for pointing out the whole Protein thing. I know OP stated that she is going to cut her protein in half at least for the next couple weeks.

Lets look at this a bit closer. As originally stated, 120g of protein from liquids alone. Plus she is eating also. Well, even the best protein supplements are 100calories per 20g protein. If she is using a Meal Replacement shake, like ensure, for protein, then you can quickly quadruple that number. So without even going to weight gainers we have anywhere from 600-2400 calories a day from liquids. Additionally she is eating also, we do not know what or how much. It is quite possible that even with a proper sleeve to over consume and gain weight.

I for one have never experienced any restriction to liquids. I could easily consume 10,000 calories/day on a liquid diet if I so chose to.

I've seen it numerous times on this forum where people get sleeved and run straight for the highest calorie Proteins they can get.

I am not saying that this is what the OP did or that this is her fault, I am simply pointing out that there are a lot of assumptions being made in this thread.

To assume that any surgeon would botch a surgery intentionally or simply not perform the surgery while claiming to have done so IMO is pretty preposterous. With the amount of liability surgeons assume every time they cut into a patient it would take an idiot (one not smart enough to get through med school) to even consider this.

As to the possibility of a stretched sleeve(pouch). IF the sleeve was properly formed, it is not going to stretch. However, if the surgeon failed to remove the fundus then, yes the fundus that is left will still be pliable. Though this is possible, I don't believe it could have been stretched much in such a short time frame. Keep in mind the only thing that is going to stretch the fundus is solid foods.

I am not making any assumptions as to what the problem is, however the only 2 conclusions that I can reasonably come to is that either the sleeve was not formed correctly and thus, a "resleeve" should be performed, or there are too many liquid calories being consumed.

Well, I guess there is a third "reasonable" possibility. It could be a combination if the two.

Any which way, I wish the OP a sipped resolution. And a happy life.

AND YES, we have had members that have experienced improperly formed sleeves which didn't function properly. As a matter of fact, I know both dr. Ponce de leon, and Dr. Aceves have performed resleeve a for that exact reason.

You didn't see the confirmed stories about people having the wrong leg amputated? Having the wrong ovary removed? The wrong kidney removed? Just Google it. It happens more than any hospital would want to admit. I confirmed with my surgeon before he put me out. I told him "sleeve." I trust him, but I still would have been HORRIBLY PISSED to get RNY instead. He does both.

In all, it probably has more to do with calories consumed than the rare mistake. There was another poster who was getting in 3 or 4 Protein Shakes and eating too. My shakes are around 200 calories each and at - was it 7 weeks I was only getting in around 400-500 calories a day.

Yeah, I suppose I was jumping to conclusions, but a sleeve doesn't fail to work if you use it right. That is my belief anyway. I suppose I am looking for possibilities. If the OP is eating right, she should explore every angle.

Oh wait, you said intentionally botched. You were referring to another post. Oops.

How would you do a sleeve and not remove the fundus/greater curvature? hmmmmm.

I I almost forgot I haven't found 1 surgeon who doesn't order a barium swallow upper gi X-ray to ENSURE you don't have a leak that is standard practice in EVERY US hospital

I never had a leak test in Arcadia, CA.

I was on Clear Liquids and the hospital followed the surgeons diet. I got Water and crystal light or the equivalent. For two weeks after of was on clear. It was a struggle to get all the clear liquid in and it took me all day and half the night continuously sipping.

I do know that many people are given the green light on puree right away, but I couldn't have handled it.

That said, maybe this is a sleeve plication gone wrong or they performed gastric bypass. My surgeon does both and it's not out of the realm of possibility that a mistake has been made. I've never heard of the sleeve referred to as a pouch and I've never heard a surgeon or any reliable study that says that it stretches beyond the minimal stretching that occurs after a year or two. Two year studies show that they didn't get much bigger than 8 oz. depending on the length. Length of course varies from person to person. The bougie size differences are minimal and it also depends how close to the bougie the cut was made, but from reading and the surgeries I've seen on video, they cut/staple up close.

I am interested as to what is going on and wish the best for the OP. This is a weird mystery, Please keep us posted.

They cut and staple around a bougie - a tube that is inserted into the stomach. They are pretty standard, but even the difference between the sizes is minimal - we're talking millimeters.here.

Somebody is feeding you B.S.

Sleevers don't have pouches, The swelling goes down after you heal and the volume you can eat slightly increases. Studies show that depending on the length of your sleeve, volume increases from 2 oz. to about 8oz. The real stretchy part was removed.during the surgery.

I have never heard of this. Is this what your surgeon said?

Yes, you have the right attitude. Try not to be too discouraged. I shed that last 15 pounds over five months to get me to goal. Granted, it was more than my body wanted, but I was paying very close attention so I avoided a big bounce. I only bounced a couple pounds (2-4) and really am just as happy at that weight as I might have been at my exact goal.

And there's always plastics.

You've done a truly great job, and deserve to be proud. Congrats,

~Cheri

Thanks Cheri!! I have an appointment with my PCP and I will get a referral to see if I can get the panni covered. I do know that things tone up some, but I don't think that's going anywhere.

I must add that I am also an emotional eater, I do not eat bcos Im hungry I eat cus ...I dont know why!!!??!!

I could go without food for at least 1 day by the time I get the feeling of hunger, that could happen 2-3 days a month but then the rest I eat even tho I am not hungry, like I said, I still have small portions but making the wrong choices. I thought bcos for the first 2 years I could eat anything I wanted, I could continue eating like that. But I was wrong and now I will deff try to eat only when Im hungry and as you said, mainly Protein and cut out all the bad foods. Thank you for your answer

It doesn't seem like you are too off track weight wise. A lot of people are for moderation on the bad stuff, but there are some of us who have trigger foods - especially carbs make our bodies crave even more and more of them until we feel out of control.

Eat well, but eat smart.

I had my one year follow-up and my surgeon upon hearing that weight loss has stalled and slowed said that I might be done losing weight, but for maybe another few pounds or so, He is happy with me. He doesn't want me eating too little trying to force weight loss because this may be where my body is happy. I suppose I could live being a bit overweight according to the charts. I'm not sure. I know what he means about not starving myself and trying to force the issue. That could backfire in some some yo-yo stuff that I'd rather not experience.

Today I am starting a strict Vitamin and Protein regimen. I already started with the Vitamins last week. Labs were normal, but my cholesterol is still way up there. I have been hit or miss on both Protein and Vitamins. Turns out that my levels were fine. D was a little low, but still.

I think I will relax, but stay with what I'm supposed to be doing, i.e. getting that protein in.

I have had my surgery end of June 2010 starting at 210 pounds and by June 2011 I was down to 114 pounds. From June 2011 until end of July 2012 I managed to keep my weight to 114-115 pounds. Well, starting August 2012 i started to put on weight and by September I gained 9-10 pounds( in ONE month), it is now end of January 2013 and I haven't managed to lose any weight and I have been careful about what I am eating, except the Christmas period where I had a lot of chocolates. So nothing in 4 months

From surgery till August( 2 years 2 months) I could eat anything I wanted, anytime I wanted and I never been exercising except the day to day chores around the house and a bit of walking now and again.

To explain better...I could have up to 3- THREE!!! ice creams in a day and I would eat crisps everyday and sometimes I could have extras plus my food.

I never been too keen on butter, cheese or fast foods- actually after my surgery I found it really difficult to eat cheese bcos would make me sick some horrible green bitter stuff.

Also when i would eat something too caloric( like 3 ice creams in one go- lol) my body will start shacking and I would be sweating alooooot, and I mean I could see the sweat running on my body in big lumps. Also would sometimes sweat just by doing nothing, I could watch TV and the sweat pours out.

Oh since November I have been on Alli diet pills which didn't work at all, then I have tried Raspberry Ketones, again without luck, my body won't get rid of anything.

Since my weight gain, I stopped sweating and I do not get shacky after I eat and what changed the most--- I'm craving foods I could not eat before, like butter, cheese, curry, lasagna, jam etc

I am trying to cut down on sugar( my biggest enemy) and sticking to fruit but even so I sometimes go over my daily limit ( a small apple has 11 g of sugar in it, 10 medium strawberries has 6 g of sugar, there is sugar in milk, yoghurt, even vegetables). I did all the research I could find on the web, at my weight/ height/ age my body needs around 1300 calories just to keep me alive, If I was to exercise 1-3 times a week that will increase to over 1600 cal per day. if I want to lose weight they say to eat 1200 calories, which i did for 3 weeks( I've been mostly on 1000 cal per day) and again no weight loss, there actually been an increase for about 4-5 days but I got down to 123-124, this is where my body seems to be comfortable at. But I am not

I have also took my measurements and from Dec 14 2012 to January 15 2013, I gained about 5 inches around my belly!!! But my weight its pretty much the same +/- a pound. I know this is crazy to read but its even more crazy when I see it happen, sooo frustrating.

I still eat small portions of food and I weigh pretty much everything and I even started to exercise( long walks and sometimes I run also- which I never ever ever did before.

HEEEEEELLLLP!!!

Go back to the basics and make sure you are getting between 70-90 grams of Protein a day. Cut out the refined sugar, white flour, rice and potatoes.

Protein first will forever be the key for us.

Stefanie, - maybe you didn't catch the details, but I plan to start plastics in Nov 2013, which would put me 23 months post op. It is my docs who say no reason to wait.

So, I am feeling better. Know what I did today - freaking trapeze!!!!!!! I went to a party where we actually climbed a tall ladder and swung on a trapeze. I somehow managed to get my knees up there so I could hang from our knees and did a a back flip as a dismount. Then, I did some crazy stuff on those silks... climbing these silk curtains which required a huge amount of upper body strength. Then, I did some work on this huge ring. That was a little painful but I felt so amazing....like, I can do this! After that, i wore my crazy pippy long stocking circus tights and a silly skirt to the barn and rode my horse. I don't normally ride my horse looking like a circus performer, but oh how fun! Pink cowboy hat too! A guy came in to check out taking lessons there, and he was really interested in me...hahaha... life is so good!

I can't describe the self esteem boost to be able to participate in something like this. sometimes we zero in on things like the excess skin but in reality, life is amazing being normal sized!!!!!

I want to have my plastics, I want to get rid of the hanging skin, but even if I never do that , the world is just a better place weighing like 140 some pounds less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That sounds SO FUN!!! I tell you, I was just totally jazzed that I could mount a good sized horse (about 16 hands) from the ground. Just swung on up. No need for someone to hold the saddle on the other side. No need for a mounting block. I'm 5'!" so it takes some doing, but I can do it!!

I admire your upper body strength. that's something I'm working on.

ESOI- Exlax plus Syrup of ipecac...turns you into a bazooka.

Edit: (after reading *susan* 's post below), Newbies, don't try this, it was a joke.

Yes, and watch out for the back-blast.

I believe you are only required to have 1500 mcg per week. It's Water soluble so excess is secreted so it's not stored and there is no known toxicity because of that.

My diet is not very balanced. I don't get near enough fruits and veggies. I'm going to work on it. In the meantime it's back on the Vitamin regimen.

There is really no excuse for this. I got lazy, pure and simple. I have been hit and miss about taking my Vitamins and Calcium. I am regular with the B-12, but let the others go. I didn't think it would make such an impact, but it did.

My labs came back and the surgeon sicced the nutritionist on me. I didn't talk to her yet, but I know what she is going to say.

I'm back on a strict Vitamin regime today. I won't let this happen again.

I don't suppose there is a question here other than wondering if any of you are sloughing off or had before. I just wanted to warn you that's its not okay. You can do real damage. Not only that ...

I just connected the dots. I've been stall for just about as long as I've been bad about the Vitamins. I just went searching. Sure enough, Vitamin D deficiency call stall weight loss and contribute to obesity. Same with Calcium.< /p>

At least I think I have an answer now.

I try to help as well. There have been times when I get frustrated about folks not being able to either accept or reject advice without all the sensitivities. When people react that way, I tend to poke and engage which is my bad habit.

So now I will post a confession in this forum on a new thread and ask your advice, It's okay if you call me an idiot too. I deserve it. :-)

tact /takt/ Noun Adroitness and sensitivity in dealing with others or with difficult issues. Synonyms delicacy - finesse

Huh? Nope. Sorry. None of that in this forum. The point is to get away from the walking on eggshells.thang.

This is not the place to come and sing Kumbaya, or to get purposely offended and teach people how to play well with others. We were doing fine thanks.