Lisa :)

Those foods are lower in Protein and my nut keeps saying that until I am easily reaching my Protein goals, that needs to be my focus. She says that as long as I am taking my Vitamins, I don't need fruits/veggies, etc..

Here's another question: Did your surgeon see you at the one year mark and do extensive blood work? If so, what were the results? Every time I go for a follow up, I have to have blood work done and my protein levels are tested (along with MANY other things). When my protein was low, I was told to aim for 100-120 (which was right after surgery). But now that it's normal/high, I've been told to aim for a minimum of 60.

Laura...Sorry I wasn't here to support you yesterday when you posted this, but I was busy dealing with my own wagon issue!!! I actually rammed into a support column and did several thousands in damage to my wagon!! Well, the adjuster has provided the estimate and the repairs to the wagon are in process. I'll be back on my wagon in no time and it'll be good as new!!!! Traveling in a damaged wagon has been proven dangerous and you put your health and safety at risk!! Make the repairs ASAP!!

Safe Travels.....

oh, and AmandaRaeLeo... I *LOVE* this comment, I need to put it up at my office:

"If you mess up. Have a weak moment. "Cheat". Own it."

Another one I love is "Make it a choice, not a cheat"!!! I love it because if we are truly making a lifestyle change then there should never be a reason to "cheat". Cheating implies that we shouldn't have something. Why shouldn't we? Even those "normal" people without food issues/addictions eat foods that are not "healthy". The way I see it, if you're going to eat cake, pizza, candy, whatever....make the CHOICE to eat it AND enjoy it, understand what that type of food does to your body (i.e. blood sugar spikes) and then move on and get back on track!!!

I don't deprive myself of anything!! My goal in having surgery was not to NEVER eat something unhealthy ever again. My goal was to develop and healthier relationship with food....which is a work in progress, but nonetheless, progress!!!

Great topic!! And I hear you Amanda Rae....sometimes the things people say here drives me nuts!! Most of the time I just don't respond becasue I realize that I'm being too judgemental and/or it's not my place to speak my mind. Like Measureofme said, we're all at different points in our journey. Hopefully, we'll all find our way!!!

Air Force.... Brilliant!! They would have a hard time getting outta that one! I must admit we've been thinking about pushing the armed services on the 16 year old.... Yes she's only 16 but she's got us counting the days!!! Currently she is enjoying time I'm her room minus the door.. teach her to pierce her nose again then slam the door on us when we tried to tackle her to take it out!!!

Yes, and to sweeten the deal for him, I am giving him $500 the day he commits!!! I'll do ANYTHING (which includes bribery!!) to get that boy headed in a direction that involves supporting himself!! LOL

Your post reminded me of a time, not too long ago, when my son's friend used to bring donuts over ALL THE TIME!!! His parents own 2 donut shops and every Saturday (when the kids would come over to hang out in the Man Cave) he would bring the donuts that didn't sell that day. Anyway, one evening I come downstairs to this:

6 DOZEN frikkin' donuts on my kitchen table!!! It's a good thing I'm not really "psycho" for donuts!!!! At one point a couple of months ago, we finally had to tell the kid that enough was enough!!!

Haha!! My husband said we might steal this idea!!

His plan was to move to Colorado, but now he realizes that they could just drive or take a bus and find us

EXACTLY!!!!! We had already moved once, and the 22 year old found us!! And wouldn't you know it, we still had an extra bedroom. After the 19 year old leaves for the Air Force, we are outta here!!!...and we're gonna build a tiny little one bedroom in Hawaii!! If they do happen to find us, there won't be any room for them!!

Lol! I'll tell him that!

And if ours don't move out WE WILL MOVE!!!

My husband and I hide upstairs these days just to escape...

LOL!! We've already decided that we are going to move to Hawaii....it's an island and they can't afford the airfare!!!

Tell him that if he brings the donuts, there will be more than 1 dozen physchos on the trip, cuz you'll be number 13!!! And I agree....kids are ingrates!!!....mine are grown and won't move out....but that's for a different forum!!

Here's the thing...Diets don't work!! If they did, everyone would be losing weight and KEPPING it off with them!! The only way to achieve success in weight loss is with a change in lifestyle....which is why most of us had surgery in the first place.

The thing with diets is that they create a deficit. But it's like borrowing money from a bank...you can't expect to go into "debt" and not pay it all back plus interest!! That's the way diets work....you go into calorie "debt" and then, one day, you have to pay the debt back with "interest"!!! This is the reason that most people lose weight on diets and then when they go back to eating the way they did before, they gain it all back plus a little more. This is also what drives our "set point" up too...which is the weight your body wants to naturally be at.

Immediately after surgery we are forced to "diet", if you will...but long term, I don't believe that long term weight loss can be PERMANENTLY achieved through severe calorie restriction. Our bodies need fuel (aka: food in the form of Protein, carbs and fat) to run efficiently.

I was in a 5 month plateau (from Nov-March) and, for me, it was about taking an honest look at my eating behavior. I wasn't tracking and my nutrition was off balance. Now that I'm back to tracking my food and eating a balance of Protein, fat AND carbs, my weight loss has picked back up again!

I was in a great downward trend since late January (after coming home for a 2 week all-inclusive vacation in Mexico, where I ate/drank whatever I wanted!). I lost 18 lbs from late January to mid-March.

OMG...you just made me realize that my plateau started right when I came back from an 8 day cruise!! I remember coming home, getting on the scale and being elated b/c I hadn't gained any weight after a week of eating danishes for breakfast!!! Yikes!!!!

I'm 10 months out and I can tell it is getting really hard to keep losing. I just had my gall bladder removed last Thursday and it wasn't a breeze like everyone has been telling me. Painful and I gained 3 pounds in the hospital and I know it was from fluids because I ate nothing! Thing is, now I should be able to eat without the pain I was feeling before. I know I should stick to low fat but with the sleeve it is better with high Protein in order to keep the weight coming off. I am 28 pounds from goal and I want to lose the rest of it. I think I should start tracking as well. I've found that I'm craving ice cream again!!! ugghhhh! I hate that! Ice cream is one of my demon foods!! It is so easy and comforting and slides right on down. We all still have to work at this no matter what. Still, I am so grateful for this blessing and we all have come such a long way. Thank God for this forum. It helps me so much to read and log in everyday.

I'm not generally an ice cream person, but Blue Bunny makes a sugar free vanilla/caramel bar that is half covered in chocolate. It does have malitol in it, so if you're sensitive to malitol (or sugar alcohols), don't even try it!! Anyway, it's pretty good and 70 calories....doesn't taste like sugar free to me!!

Hey Lisa, just wanted to ask how you're doing now? How's the tracking going?

Have you taken recent measurements.

My stall started oct 2011... Not a typo... I've lost a few pounds in the last couple of weeks (mostly due to having excess skin cut of!) but, in the time of the stall I went down a whole dress size!

I'm wondering, and I have no medical knowledge, experience or evidence, if our bodies just need time to readjust, recompose before they let go of more ?

What do you think?

I'm FINALLY back on track!!! Since writing this post, it's taken me a while to really get myself there, but I've been tracking my food consistently for the past 8 days and I'm down 4 lbs!!...which is absolute proof, to me, that tracking works!!!

I've also "officially" starting training for my first triathlon of the season which is on June 23rd. I think this has boosted my motivation as well!! I take my training plan and write it all out on calendar pages that I print off my computer....then, I plaster them up on my wall in my bedroom. Each day that I complete my training I cross that day off with a highlighter. If I miss a day, I put a big "O"...which stands for a missed OPPORTUNITY!!! The visual feedback is a powerful thing for me!!!!

I do think that our bodies often need time to adjust. For me, I believe my current weight is my body's current "set point". I think our bodies are like thermostats...they are comfortable at a certain "temperature" (weight) and they attempt to regulate themselves to stay there. When we yo yo diet for many years, our set points change (and go higher and higher) with each diet. A dear friend (and best selling nutritionist) explains it as a "debt". He says "you can't borrow money from the bank and not expect to pay it back with interest". He says that when you create a deficite by calorie restriction you will eventually pay back that calorie deficite with "interest" (extra weight).

Not nice to do this to me when I'm having a Protein shake! I ought to sue for, um, well, I just ought ta.

Protein shakes are NOT good coming out through your nose, and then I almost inhaled when I shoulda been swallowing...

Harumph!

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That's okay...Laura made me spit my Syntrax nectar all over my computer the other day!!!....I'm still trying to get it out of my keyboard!!

I'm almost a year and half out and spend about 4 months gaining and losing the same 5 lbs. I still have 40 pounds to lose and knew that if I didn't take control now, I may continue to do this forever!! I started tracking my food daily in MFP (myfitnesspal). I can't tell you how important this is to my success!! Not only does it hold me accountable to what I'm putting in my mouth....it helps to change my behavior.

I also cannot stress enough the importance of daily exercise. Find something that you really enjoy doing and get out there and do it!! I had a dream to do a triathlon and I ended up doing 3 last year and got hooked. If it weren't for all the training I do, I'm sure I would have gained weight over the past 5 months.

Lastly, to get back on track, try lil miss diva's The Basics Boot Camp. It can help you get back to where you started without making you feel like you're starving yourself to get there. Here's the link:

http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/28139-the-basics-boot-camp/

Good Luck!! Keep us posted!!

Walking the hill, you mean up Hill Street?!? WOW!

I'm trying To walk around the block first,LOL!!

But wouldn't a Sunday walking group be fun??

I'm interested?

I walk up ALL the different streets and trails...BUT, keep in mind, I've been doing it since before my surgery. When I first started, I could not go up Hill St or Skyline without stopping several times!!! Now I'm 115 lbs lighter, which is litterally a load off my back!!! LOL!! You have to start somewhere!!

A walking group would be fun!! I'm game!!!

Why yes! Yes there is!!

Nutrition Facts

Serving Size: 1 egg (39.0 g)

Amount Per Serving % Daily Values

Calories 190 Calories from Fat 90

Total Fat 10.0g 15%

Saturated Fat 6.0g 30%

Cholesterol 5mg 2%

Sodium 70mg 3%

Total Carbohydrates 24.0g 8%

Sugars 18.0g

Protein 2.0g

Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%

Calcium 4% Iron 0%

BUT NO MORE FOR YOU ISLEEVEDIT!!!

You looking that $h!t up reminds me of this:

I'm in LB. A Signal Hill walk sounds good. I have a gym at work but waking is good.

I love walking The Hill!!! I've been walking it since about 6 weeks before surgery (which was Nov 2011). I "technically" live in S.H. I just walk out my door and head up!! Sometimes I walk up Skyline 3 or 4 times...and other times, I do what I call "big loop" which is simply a long walk all the up and around the hill!!

We could start a little walking group!

Girl you better deduct that from you Protein total!

Do you think there's any Protein in a caramel chocolate egg?

I had a private room so i had no issues. I will tell you, I took my iPad and never once had a desire to be on it!! I texted with family and friends and that was about it...I could never get comfortable enough to deal with my iPad.

My word..... All this coddling!!

CARAMEL eggs ARE A GATEWAY food!!

OMG....I just spat Syntrax nectar all over my laptop!!! I'll be sure to stay away from those caramel chocolate eggs this Easter!!...I sure as H#!L don't wanna be sucked into that vortex!! LOL!

Hey neighbor!!! I'm here in the LBC!!!! What kind of exercise are you looking to do? I'm not sure I would be the best exercise buddy b/c I'm on a pretty tight training schedule for triathlon season. But I do walk Signal Hill once a week if you are interested in that!! How far along are you in your journey?

It's not a crime to eat a caramel chocolate egg!!! What's really important is that you recognize it and MOVE ON!!! There is absolutely nothing wrong with what you ate....but if you're going to eat something that you consider "off program"...make it a CHOICE, not a CHEAT!!! And then when you make that choice--ENJOY IT!!!!

Now get up off the ground and get back on your wagon!!!

WOW....I'm scratching my head!! At almost 17 months out, there is no way I could eat an entire Big Mac. Now, I haven't actually tried, but once in a great while I eat 1/2 of a hamburger from In N Out.

I didn't even try ANYTHING from a fast food place until I was well over 4 months out and when I did, I couldn't stand it. Even to this day, fast food tastes HORRIBLE....I think because it's so processed. The only thing I can tolerate is that 1/2 hamburger from In N Out.

My concern for you is not that you were able to eat a Big Mac, but that because you can, it's easier to go for that choice again and make a regular occurance of it. I'm not saying you will....but if I had been able to eat one at less than 3 months out, I would probably just continue to eat them on a regular basis.

I like the hidden valley ranch idea! Pardon my ignorance, but what is PB2?

It's powdered Peanut Butter

Here is the typical answer you will get: "That I didn't do it sooner"!!!

You could also use Hidden Valley Ranch Dressing mix....greek yogurt is very much like sour cream so any dip mix that you would add to sour cream will work in greek yogurt as well. Years ago...when I was in my teens and 20's, I would use taco seasoning in sour cream and dip tortilla chips in it!! I loved it!!