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I will keep you in my prayers and put a nice cozy pillow on the losers bench for you!

There's a distinct difference between a sore throat and "puking and vomiting" - (your words) - with just about everything that passes your lips. First you asked about sugar....then we digressed to nothing with artifical sweetener will do. The aftertaste is too horrible...obviously developing a taste for it is out of the question. Water makes you 'puke' - seriously now, really??!! All this from what? Yes, dear- really, And I am not the only one by a long shot. Again- my experience- and just because it is not your experience does not merit a "really?". That is where the nasty part comes in. Please do NOT insult me, or try to....I am not dialing "it" back at all. I stand by every single thing I said. Call a spade a spade, a quack a quack, I don't give a rat's rear end where he/she is located. If starting solids a few days after having 85% of your stomach removed is common 'over there' - then YES, I will shout it and post it.......QUACKS!!!!! If we have doctors here that do that.....then, quack, quack. BTW, they've been doing this surgery for years and years...before it was being done for the first part of a 2 part WLS (DS) it was being done, (removing all or part of the stomach) for ulcers and cancer. My step-mother had a large portion of her tummy taken out over 30 years ago.....weight loss was just a bonus, she lost 45 lbs, not that she needed to....and remains thin to this day. I remember exactly what it was like at week 1 and week 2. I sat around with a heating pad, walked a lot around the house; tried my hardest to drink HALF the Water they wanted me to. Slept with a flat pillow under my tummy because it hurt to turn over. Stopped pain meds after a few days. I only took it at night anyway. I really had no issues except getting enough liquids in. I felt good except when I coughed....I needed a pillow to hold against my tummy. Every day I felt better. My memory sucks, but I remember....I also remember giving birth to my children. Yes you remember what it was like for YOU. You had few issues, your pain passed quickly, etc. But there is a big group of others with their own experiences and if you can;t see beyond your own to feel compassion for theirs don't bother. I really don't agree with you, I don't think I'm arrogant, but that doesn't offend me. I'm pretty thick skinned. I've said what works for me. Take it or leave it. People ask for advice, I can only tell you my story. Some times people ask questions and they really don't want answers....or they already KNOW the answer. An arrogant person never sees themself as arrogant- that is part of what arrogance is! You also say "people" when you very lightly veil that you are meaning that person. Yes, I wanted answers, I didn't already know the answer, and I got answers. NOT FROM YOU.

I know- some both chocolate AND splenda. He doesn't know. SO we have a very careful cleanup routine.

The pup wants tastes of my Protein drinks and he can' have them. It's killing him! SO I make sure I rinse my mouth carefully so the kisses are not lethal! Oh my son- I don't know if you could see well enough in the video how long his eye lashes are- it is freaking unfair! Big long thick lashes around big brown eyes. I have that to a degree but women are always telling him how unfair that is! He really has a great heart too.

LOL! My release from the nastiness was to go post for you over in pre-op! xoxoxo

I can feel your fear level rising in some of your posts and want to be there for you. I know you are worried about the fibro and how your recovery will be affected but honey you have to look at the many other reasons why you need this surgery. First of all, yes, I did finally have a fibro day- today. I have some achiness in my particular places, but nothing the pain meds did not help. Although I know surgery is in itself a trigger, often, I truly believe my recovery has been well within the nomal range- not as good as the lucky devils who are up and out there working and driving heavy machinery and eating a full diet in three days (exaggerating I know!) and not the ones who on day six are still in a great deal of pain and still not able to get anything down. That means that even with my very sensitive response to physical things because of my fibro I am getting better every day and can differentiate between the effects of the surgery and that of the fibro. I can definitely say I do not feel worse, fibro wise, from this. Now, I was terrified the last few days before surgery, those mortality, life .death things. I think many if not all of us are. I worked it through a that. But please don't worry too much about your fibro- think about what your body will feel like with the extra weight off and not hobbling you and probably causing trigger after trigger! Think about getting off many meds forever- and running, dancing, and playing with your family. Keep your eye on the prize girl. I will be here for you.

"he did nothing to your throat" Your words- your "advice" was that there must be a medical problem if my throat hurt when I swallowed. I have read countless times how many people come out of surgery with very very sore throats. When you say "reputable" doctor your opinion is obvious. Then you add quack to the mix. Don't try to dial it back as if you were not insulting the policies of a reputable hospital. Compared to many surgeries this is newer than some- and obviously from the extremely different approaches of all the different doctors even at centers of excellence- there is no one approach. We each have to weigh the different options and find our own way. I did NOT come here for sympathy- I came for GOOD ADVICE. I don;t even want sympathy- I am a very lucky woman to have had this surgery and to be given a chance to go for life. And to have it covered by my insurance too All I got from you was rudeness, superiority, and an inability to see beyond your own experience to that of another. Another word for the ability to do that is compassion and I think you need to practice it. Have a look, truly, at all the posts you made in this thread from telling me I did not prepare adequately for my surgery, to telling me my throat would not hurt after surgery unless I have a medical problem, to this last choice bit. I started this thread for some comments and advice. I got great advice, but NOT FROM YOU. Instead of being willing to look inward at your own self you just have to keep leveling out the same harshness. You really seem to have forgotten what life was like in the first week.

Wow Tiff- every time I see your story I know I can get though all of this!

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Water - right now by marking it off and setting my phone every fifteen minutes- but eventually will use a 32 ounce camelback I have and make sure to drink two of the a day when I can relax- i am six days out. When I relax I wont write it down any more.\\ I use fatsecret to log intake- record all food and have chose (they let you choose) calories, fat, Protein, carbs, Fiber, and net carbs. I plan to count net carbs so that is why I do that. That will help me weed the good from bad carbs! I have the app on phone and iPad and use it on the computer too! MY fitness pal bugged me with telling me I am eating to little - I wish I could program it for my own needs since obviously sleevers are different!

I can't tell you how much I appreciate this! I love hearing about the European approach- and am sorry another poster had to be so arrogant and demeaning to you and call them quacks . I figure we all find our way on this journey with a lot of help along the way from doctor, support groups, forums, friends and family. In the end we disseminate everything we hear and choose our own path. It is probably frustrating to most of us that there is not ONE true way- an exact pre-op and post-op path to follow to weight loss nirvana. By providing the general approach in Europe you have greatly enriched my choices! Thank you. I remember! You are right, now that I am experimenting with where I go from here in terms of my choices I will have another look at the shake you love and the xylitol. We can all use some choices! Than you. Seriously- did you read this? You actually called the doctors in Europe quacks because of their approach to this surgery? Seriously? American arrogance personified. BTW- how do you think the bougie gets in to your stomach? Do some research. How about this video - Check that out at about 2:45 if you do not want to watch the whole thing. Many surgeries pass a scope or tool through the throat. Lots of people awaken with a huge sore throat. In addition , pain swallowing and drinking is VERY common after surgery. No, I do not have a medical problem with this. It is now day six and I am drinking fine, if slowly and small amounts. Truly, I will as kindly as possible say I do not need any more advice from you.I am very pleased you reached your goal and are easily maintaining. You have done well with that but you do have a way of being rude to people while also trumpeting your success. I do not find it helpful so for me, at least, it is not needed. Peace.

Not voting yet because I am only sixth day- but I sure hope you are ok- please let us know!

Alright peeps- my day six- I got almost 80 ounces Fluid in yesterday! WOO HOO! Not so good on the Protein but I am still figuring when to do it and what. I have a 30 gram chocolate with decaf drink in the am and then will either do an isopure or another drink afternoon and broth with protein tonight. I figured out a pattern so today I really do think I will meet my docs 70 grams. It really helped me when someone posted that you should not worry about protein for the first week or so. That gave me permission to not feel guilty! I still feel quite weak at the end of the day- also at first in the morning before I get fluids or protein in. I take my acid pill first thing every morning and then a shower while my DH gets hot tea, Protein Drink, propel, and Water all ready for me. This morning I tackled my hair- a total mess as I put it in a band and left it be until today (yuck). Unfortunately I got so weak during the rinsing of the conditioner I almost could not stand. So I need to be mindful I am not quite over it. OK RVs- off for a walk! Tell me how YOU are!

You are so lucky! That pain drinking was...well, a pain! I am glad you are doing so well- that is great. I do not think drinking a quantity means your sleev is not small- Fluid is so different from food. What a great tip that things that taste weird might taste better in a few days. Good to know. Keep posting!

Hooray! I love picturing you love sisters racing each other in the hall. Please keep posting here- it is really for May sleevers- and not just for the TEN that I know to have been on May 9th. It becane Red Velvet after the giant triple layer one I made to eat during my last supper days! I want to know about yo two every day! HI Karen- so glad to see you here! one thing I have realized is the post op experience runs a huge gamut and all (or mostly all) is normal. I found yesterday the day that suddenly I could drink without pain- I pray your day is soon! Before that it was a miserable thing trying to get it in.The swelling- I think. I now set my alarm on my phone to go off every 15 minutes and drink 2 ounces. My post op stuff recommends that and that has really helped. Even being able to drink easily now (no pain- still not too much at once) I will slip behind on quantity if I don't do that- maybe you can try that, I am weak still- so that seems normal. Keep posting so we know how you are doing1 Congratulations on being post op! You are kinda right- I don;t hate you but I just envy you! 3 weeks of clears and Protein Shakes loo high above me... Apparently lots are reporting those periods- I am menopausal so at least that is missing... encourage you to find some protein sources that work and get in the habit to ensure you don' burn muscle instead of the squishy parts! Keep posting! OK babe you have given me the nerve to try the grape isopure sample my nutritionist gave me! Hope I like it. Glad you are doing well! I think it will get better for us every day. Kepp posting fellow RV!!!

Aren't we all? I feel like, even though I find the powders?utm_source=BariatricPal&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=CommentLink" target="_ad" data-id="1" >unjury unflavored palatable, I don't care for the fact that it is only 20 grams in 2 scoops. Is there a palatable unflavored powder with better Protein stats? I simply have to add too much of the unJury and it takes away a lot of the flavor of the Soup to which I add it.

I have found what is for me the nummiest chocolate protein drink- Champion Pro Score 100 chocolate. I selected it because of the ratings thread above and ordered it as one of several samples from vitalady (they sell samples, godsent for me so I don't buy big things and then hate them!). I loved the sample and ordered two pounds. I mix it with decaf coffee and ice and blend. YUMMMM!!!! It also has great nutrition stats!

The blood pressure should be reported- that could be of concern. The right part of our stomachs, the largest part, was removed and pulled out on that side. I am glad my biggest incision is not on top on my new tummy! I am not pale- but I am very weak and tired. I also don;t have periods anymore so that wont be a factor for me.

I seem to every other alternate between sleeping for 10 hours and not sleeping for hours and hours and getting a few hours. When I can't sleep I just surrender and watch You Tubes until I get drowsy. Fortunately I am self employed so I always have a sense that I will be able to sleep in the day. I am so sorry because I know how awful insomnia is. I have never been truly troubled and hugs to you- wish I could help. Even with my atavan but I'm in NO CA!

It certainly cleans out the sinuses! I haven't had the unexplained tears yet- that one was actually becasue I was having so much drinking- and because my doctor confirmed he wanted three weeks of clears plus Protein drinks instead of full liquids. I am glad you reminded me....you know I think I need to print out your day by days to serve as a reference.

It is so not fair to make me laugh! But I should know to put a pillow on my abdomen and be ready when I click your posts- the pinata remark hurt me big! Thank you for giving me hope that this incredibly intense period will fade and be a memory. I had an inkling today because I was doing so much better I forgot the sobbing in the shower day a few days ago completely. Thanks too for the hope that I WILL eat again....real food. Three weeks of clears with Protein shakes followed by two weeks of full liquids and THEN mushies? I can't even figure out when I will eat again. Maybe at eight weeks like you! As you forget this even happened- don't forget US!

My You Tube friend- you KNOW you should not do this! So what if it goes down and tastes good. Do you want to jeopardize your healing tender tummy FOREVER by indulging? You said it yourself- if you are cheating already, what are your chances? My doctor makes it clear that if you are not willing to change your lifestyle- don't have the surgery. I don't want to see you end up overweight AND with a sleeve! Mama Meggie tough love here -STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!! Get on full liquids right now and do it until the 20th. If it feels better- I got unexpectedly put on clears and Protein drinks only for THREE SOLID WEEKS- imagine that? Not even cottage cheese. Will I blow it? NO WAY! I (and you) have a lifetime to eat little bits of real food though who will have time with our active, busy, skinny life? We need to heal these new stomachs, period, You know this- you just needed support in remembering. PLEASE!!!!!!! Do the right thing!

It is so hard to get the protein thing going! I gave myself a break and concentrated on fluids.while I figured out what I can tolerate. Luckily the chocolate one I drink with decaf in the morning has 30 grams in 2 scoops- cause I have been told to geth 75 grams a day! Only clears and protein drinks for me until the 30th. Ouch. I love hearing your experience since we are sleeve sistahs! Lets keep this three aline- unless you think we should start one every day. That way we can keep up with each other and keep everyone else apprised...I hate thinking i miss something from one of you. I think you will find unflavored will work after as well as before- mine has. Just don;t be too hard on your self the first week about protein. I have found that great advice- it will come as you heal.

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Yippee! I am glad you are doing well. The pain can ge bad, can;t it? Did you find a good unflavored Protein powder by any chance? I ran out of