and he wants to be our president. So whats his excuse this time? Now you know why I dislike the liberal left.

Have a look at the photo from the October 1, 2007 edition of "Time." It shows Obama, Hillary and Bill Richardson at the Steak Fry of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) on September 17 in Indianola, IA during [according to the photo caption] the National Anthem. Richardson and Clinton have their hands on their heart. But not Obama. Does he perhaps believe that, like wearing the flag pin, the hand on the heart isn't "true patriotism"?

Obama: No Hand on Heart for National Anthem | NewsBusters.org

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Yes, I am dead serious.. How many years, have men been running our country?? Oh yes, they have done a marvelous job, look at were our country stands.. Seems to me that a woman, might just get the job done. :clap2:

And I'll stop right here, because politics and religion are forbidden subjects for me.

I think Hillary is a strong candidate. I would rather she be in office, than the idiot we have in office now.

The logic of voting on gender over ability is what got us in the mess we are in today with Bush. That logic just isn't reasonable. The queen of mean had a vagina too, doesn't mean she'd make a good prez. We aren't in the problem we are because those in office have a penis, we are in the problem we are because those in office don't have any balls or care for the people of the US.

People tend to vote more on their impulses or party lines than anything else. 80% of American voters vote their affiliated party line, no matter the candidate. That is a fact, supported by years of research.

Bill Clinton wasn't perfect, but he was a good president. His wife is a walking nightmare. Give her a few years, and we'll all be comrades.

We had a female prime minister in the UK , do none of you remember the Falklands war, when Argentina invaded the Falkland Isles, Maggie Thatcher was prime minister then and she was quite happy to go to war.

Nina x

all candidates, promise more than they can accomplish, come on, 4 yrs is hardly enough time to fix so much screw up from the past. I think they all have good intentions when they come into office and I hope and pray that they have my countries best interest at heart, but at the end of the day, they are just like me and you.. And yes, you and I screw up.. Just a matter of life.:clap2:

I still stick to what I said.

And, I too am human and screw up plenty and like Meg Ryan in You Got Mail, I forgot to vote in the last elections. I was at a spa and enjoyed every minute of it.

I think I'm behind on this thread, but kneejerk patriotism seems stupid to me. I don't care if someone salutes the flag. I care if someone has good ideas. I note that Republicans seem to cotton on to ridiculous things rather than look for the truth. I'm sick of that. Look what the Republican party has done. It has moved the U.S. toward fascism, not that I'd expect you to understand that term. This is not the America I grew up in. I'm in severe pain due to my back, so I'm cranky. But this sort of thing really irritates me. I wonder why people don't study the Constitution instead of going for stupid pictures like this.

I think I'm behind on this thread, but kneejerk patriotism seems stupid to me. I don't care if someone salutes the flag. I care if someone has good ideas. I note that Republicans seem to cotton on to ridiculous things rather than look for the truth. I'm sick of that. Look what the Republican party has done. It has moved the U.S. toward fascism, not that I'd expect you to understand that term. This is not the America I grew up in. I'm in severe pain due to my back, so I'm cranky. But this sort of thing really irritates me. I wonder why people don't study the Constitution instead of going for stupid pictures like this.

And the dems want us to be like Old Mother Russia !

Even if the Dems did want the US to be like old Mother Russia, the Republican leadership has in reality taken us closer to that model. Electronic eavesdropping on citizens without warrants. Secret investigations without recourse. Suspension of Habeas Corpus. The use of water-boarding and not calling it torture. Spending money like it grows on trees. What happened to the Republican party I grew up with, which cared about smaller government and fiscal responsibility? When people start using loose terms like dems and neo-cons or liberals and conservatives, they are taking a narrow view without the benefit of objective thought. The right answer is typically somewhere in the middle.

Some people think, some people trust Bush .... no questions asked.

Critical thinking skills, people! It's not the horror you think it is!!

Even if the Dems did want the US to be like old Mother Russia, the Republican leadership has in reality taken us closer to that model. Electronic eavesdropping on citizens without warrants. Secret investigations without recourse. Suspension of Habeas Corpus. The use of water-boarding and not calling it torture. Spending money like it grows on trees. What happened to the Republican party I grew up with, which cared about smaller government and fiscal responsibility? When people start using loose terms like dems and neo-cons or liberals and conservatives, they are taking a narrow view without the benefit of objective thought. The right answer is typically somewhere in the middle.

Please take off your tinfoil hat and breathe in and out.

Please take off your tinfoil hat and breathe in and out.

Please reconsider using critical thinking skills. Even just one!

Please reconsider using critical thinking skills. Even just one!

Confucius Says........

When we see men of contrary character, we should turn inwards and examine ourselves.

Bruce Lee in the "Tao of Jeet Kun Do" says: "Those who desire fiscal notions only do not see their ignobility, as their internal indoctrination is already ethically corrupt." I'd say that's pretty fitting of those who start wars for oil.

Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.

- General George Patton

That's pretty cool. I lack a propensity to start a war over false pretenses, since that is what I am cynical about.