Hey guys,

Are you up for a little debate? ok, here it goes....I'm a Christian, proud and happy to be one, I love God/ Christ and I humble myself to Him because I want to and I like it, I enjoy that humbling experience... and I do have other reasons to believe........

Of course, I know that not everyone agrees with me but I respect everyone's opinions, yes.... even if we can't agree, LOL!

I normally don't listen to celebrities talking about religion or politics, in my opinion, they show ignorance most of the times, specially when they talk about politics.... but an article popped up in MSN about Brad Pitt and I do admire his humanitarian work, so I read it , and I thought it was interesting what Brad Pitt said about his view/feelings on religion.... I personaly agree that religion in general is good....no matter what yours is... what do you think?

The following is the article:

"Religion works, Brad goes on. I know there's comfort there, a crash pad. It's something to explain the world and tell you there is something bigger than you, and it is going to be all right in the end. It works because it's comforting. I grew up believing in it, and it worked for me in whatever my little personal high school crisis was, but it didn't last for me. I didn't understand this idea of a God who says, 'You have to acknowledge me. You have to say that I'm the best, and then I'll give you eternal happiness. If you won't, then you don't get it!' It seemed to be about ego. I can't see God operating from ego, so it made no sense to me."

Thanks for reading guys, later.....

Helen;)

Yes, I don't believe Buddha or Allah is God. :eek:

And that's as far as I'm going, I hate hate hate being in religious debates, and I smell it coming right around the bend! But I do so enjoy listening to people's opinions on it. :biggrin1:

I think at a very fundamental (or perhaps infantile is a better word) level, people are looking for ways to explain things that they cannot otherwise explain, e.g. origin myths.

Indeed! Ask a satanist if they worship the same deity as christians.

I agree with that... different deity, though ultimately they workship their "God" whoever that may be...

Since you are an atheist, and please forgive me, this may be a stupid question and I can probably guess the answer, but I'll ask anyway.... Do you think that Satan's workshipers and Christ workshipers are pretty much the same, because they workship something or someone that in your opinion doesn't exist? or do you see a difference because of their different deity?

I agree with that... different deity, though ultimately they workship their "God" whoever that may be...

Since you are an atheist, and please forgive me, this may be a stupid question and I can probably guess the answer, but I'll ask anyway.... Do you think that Satan's workshipers and Christ workshipers are pretty much the same, because they workship something or someone that in your opinion doesn't exist? or do you see a difference because of their different deity?

Every person with a religion has a god. A god is different from God, though. God is a god, but all gods aren't God.

And I'm an Atheist, too, so I'll answer your question, along with Wheetsin. I don't see any difference between a Satanist, a Christian, a Muslim, or a Buddhist. Or any other believer in a higher power, for that matter. They're just people that need to believe that something out there is bigger than them. They aren't WRONG for believing what they believe, I just don't believe with them.

Every person with a religion has a god. A god is different from God, though. God is a god, but all gods aren't God.

And I'm an Atheist, too, so I'll answer your question, along with Wheetsin. I don't see any difference between a Satanist, a Christian, a Muslim, or a Buddhist. Or any other believer in a higher power, for that matter. They're just people that need to believe that something out there is bigger than them. They aren't WRONG for believing what they believe, I just don't believe with them.

For me, Christ is my God, but when I've talked to Muslims and buddhists, they refer to Allah and Buddha as their "God" which leads me to believe that people from all different religions think that their religion leader is "God" , in your opinion, why do you think that Allah and Buddha are not GOd? who would you consider GOd, or at least, who do you think that religious people could consider God?

And thank you for answering my question from my previous post....I thought that would be the answer, but wanted to make sure...

Since you are an atheist, and please forgive me, this may be a stupid question and I can probably guess the answer, but I'll ask anyway.... Do you think that Satan's workshipers and Christ workshipers are pretty much the same, because they workship something or someone that in your opinion doesn't exist? or do you see a difference because of their different deity?

Sorry, but it's worshipper, not workshiper. Had to get that out there. :eek:

You're qualifying a group compared to my personal beliefs. By doing so, you eliminate consideration of individual differences. Through your definition, you've reduced them to nothing more individualized or specific than, generically, "those who believe."

As an analogy, if you lump people from 15 countries into "people," they can be no more than "people" generic.

I do not believe that "people" are without individual, etnic, cultural, etc. differences. And I do not that "believers" all believe the same thing.

For me, Christ is my God, but when I've talked to Muslims and buddhists, they refer to Allah and Buddha as their "God" which leads me to believe that people from all different religions think that their religion leader is "God" , in your opinion, why do you think that Allah and Buddha are not GOd? who would you consider GOd, or at least, who do you think that religious people could consider God?

And thank you for answering my question from my previous post....I thought that would be the answer, but wanted to make sure...

God (with a capital G) is the name of the Christian god. A god (with a lower-case g) is by definition a supreme being according to some particular conception or one of several deities presiding over some portion of worldly affairs. There is a difference between the two. Yes, the Christian God is a god, as are Allah and Buddha. Allah is not the Christian God. Allah is a god, but he is the Muslim god.

May be semantics, but one god does not equal another god. They may both be gods but they are not both God.

Anyone else suddenly finding the word "god" to be incredibly weird?

Sorry, but I use "god" for everyone's god. Honestly, I find it a silly concept. The very logic used to create this god is the LAST logic anyone would use to pick stocks or things that matter on a day to day basis in this life.

There are as many gods out there as there are people believing in them.

Sorry, but I use "god" for everyone's god. Honestly, I find it a silly concept. The very logic used to create this god is the LAST logic anyone would use to pick stocks or things that matter on a day to day basis in this life.

I generally do, too, but it just brings out the anal grammar bitch in me. All the gods are gods-with-lower-case-g, but God-with-a-capital-G is the common name for the Christian god, just as Allah is the common name of the Mulim god-with-a-lower-case-g.

Kinda like how "Dad" is a commonly used name for a specific person's father, but "dad" is another name for anyone's father. The capitalization makes the difference. "Did you do this, Dad?" versus "Did your dad do this?"

BTW, Wheetsin, would you mind if I kinda stole your "token atheist" thingie?

Think of it this way: Someone was named "Person" by their nutty parents. Now, every human in existance is a person, but only Person is Person. That make sense?

Sorry, but it's worshipper, not workshiper. Had to get that out there. :eek:

You're qualifying a group compared to my personal beliefs. By doing so, you eliminate consideration of individual differences. Through your definition, you've reduced them to nothing more individualized or specific than, generically, "those who believe."

As an analogy, if you lump people from 15 countries into "people," they can be no more than "people" generic.

I do not believe that "people" are without individual, etnic, cultural, etc. differences. And I do not that "believers" all believe the same thing.

I need to use my spellcheck.... I'm at work, so that's why I misspelled worshipper with work.... see what I mean.....LOL! can't blame me for trying....

I see your point....but mostly I can appreciate what you said: "I do not believe that "people" are without individual, etnic, cultural, etc. differences. And I do not that "believers" all believe the same thing."

Anyone else suddenly finding the word "god" to be incredibly weird?

LOL!!!!!!!!!

God (with a capital G) is the name of the Christian god. A god (with a lower-case g) is by definition a supreme being according to some particular conception or one of several deities presiding over some portion of worldly affairs. There is a difference between the two. Yes, the Christian God is a god, as are Allah and Buddha. Allah is not the Christian God. Allah is a god, but he is the Muslim god.

May be semantics, but one god does not equal another god. They may both be gods but they are not both God.

I got you.....I think that's what I mean to say about different gods and God...