https://gastricbypass.netfirms.com/vbg_patricia.htm

Not frighten anyone but is this true? About undergoing gastectomy? What's difference between vsg and vbg?

You seem obsessed with complications.

It is that old stomach stapling. She had the surgery back in 1984. She died 27 years later...

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/imagepages/19498.htm

This looks like a terrible idea. I don't know who thought this was clever.

Yes I am suffering from panic attacks & I am a hypochondriac (undiagnosed). I think for me, I wasn't ready for this. I know I wasn't. I wake up scared to death about everything. I dropped out of college & can barely work. I didn't feel this way until I found out horror stories and developed a fear of RNY reversal. I love that most are happy with their surgery, it definitely works. I hope my depression is from lack of vitamin or something.

The grandmother of one of my good friends said "Don't borrow trouble". Stay off that website, it is totally dedicated to complications but all those people had surgery years ago before techniques improved. Also if you look for complications then that is all you are going to see. It is like buying a new Camry, you probably didn't notice all the Camrys on the road but now that you have one, you see them everywhere.

Stressing yourself out will cause your body to react making you sick. You have to chill out.

Didn't you have a sleeve not RNY? RNY has all kinds of complications the sleeve just does not have.

When is your next Dr Appointment?

You should get back in school to keep your mind occupied. Do you have a therapist?

I'm not sure what you mean by RNY reversal? Do you mean having to get a bypass if you develop GERD with your sleeve?

I did the looking at possible complications first thing in my research. After I felt I had enough information, I have avoided those types of articles ever since. After surgery, no one should look at that stuff. After all, there is no point knowing about the stuff that isn't happening to you! If you feel sick, hopefully you know enough to go to the doc and find out what IS wrong, assuming anything ever happens.

I've lived on this board since January, and am thinking of taking the summer off. The kids' last day of school is tommorrow, and so I need to be available to them for summer activities. Go out and make some vitamin D! Get in more exercise, and utilize my sleeve to its fullest!

I have an addictive personality...all or nothing. Be better to put away the computer for a bit.

Funny.. we were typing at the same time, and essentially said the same thing! Lol.

3 minutes ago, Berry78 said:

I did the looking at possible complications first thing in my research. After I felt I had enough information, I have avoided those types of articles ever since.

That has basically been my approach. I do read people that tell stories here to see what symptoms they have so I can have an idea of what to be aware of.

Other than that, I walk my dog every day and I am more likely to get hit by car with my dog than have a WLS complication.

6 minutes ago, OutsideMatchInside said:

The grandmother of one of my good friends said "Don't borrow trouble". Stay off that website, it is totally dedicated to complications but all those people had surgery years ago before techniques improved. Also if you look for complications then that is all you are going to see. It is like buying a new Camry, you probably didn't notice all the Camrys on the road but now that you have one, you see them everywhere.

Stressing yourself out will cause your body to react making you sick. You have to chill out.

Didn't you have a sleeve not RNY? RNY has all kinds of complications the sleeve just does not have.

When is your next Dr Appointment?

You should get back in school to keep your mind occupied. Do you have a therapist?

M appointment is tommorow, because the doctor refuse to see me after I was 5 minutes late. I have been trying to see dr since I began having emotional issues. and it's funny you use car analogy cause I have a Camry! My husband says same thing and too, stay away from negative stories as I'm going to kill myself from stress and depression. And when I said RNY I mean I'm scared I will need to switch vsg to RNY and I don want anymore surgeries. I had bad post partum with my daughter also but it this bad. And I dumped my shrink after she told me not to have surgery because "long term complications".

9 minutes ago, Berry78 said:

I'm not sure what you mean by RNY reversal? Do you mean having to get a bypass if you develop GERD with your sleeve?

I did the looking at possible complications first thing in my research. After I felt I had enough information, I have avoided those types of articles ever since. After surgery, no one should look at that stuff. After all, there is no point knowing about the stuff that isn't happening to you! If you feel sick, hopefully you know enough to go to the doc and find out what IS wrong, assuming anything ever happens.

I've lived on this board since January, and am thinking of taking the summer off. The kids' last day of school is tommorrow, and so I need to be available to them for summer activities. Go out and make some Vitamin D! Get in more exercise, and utilize my sleeve to its fullest!

I have an addictive personality...all or nothing. Be better to put away the computer for a bit.

I'm choosing to reclaim my strength and get backup, I have no complications and even if I do, I will deal with life as it comes my way. Thank you for the advice ladies. You have NO idea how you have helps me!

Well, you need to find a supportive shrink.

GERD is 20% in the normal population and 10% in sleevers. Don't stress about it. Even if it is going to happen to you, worrying about it won't stop it, it will just make the situation worse.

Focus on losing weight and being healthy.

When people look at complication data, they forget that a lot of people were in terrible general health before they ever had surgery.

So since we have started down this path...

I'm looking at their blog http://suethsayings.blogspot.com/

This is what they have to say about the sleeve...

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But the gastric sleeve appears to have a darker side. The stomach which is now, about as big as your thumb and twice as long as your thumb, doesn't hold much of anything...for example, patients describe difficulty in drinking liquids and some have observed brown urine from dehydration etc.

Really? because it is 5:30 PM and I have had 2 eggs, bacon, 32 ounces of coffee 32 ounces of iced tea, 32 ounce of water, and 12 ounces of pork. My sleeve holds a lot. I'm about to suck down 100 grams (2 cups) of spinach. I still have 2 hours left to eat and I plan on doing some damage, LOL

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Weight loss surgery, all of it, is based on an idea we now know to be false i.e. that the appetite center is in the stomach.

The appetite center is in the brain which is why weight loss surgery isn't effective unless you diet and exercise which of course, causes a weight loss without surgery!

They are completely ignoring ghrelin, but from the entire tone of their blog, they don't even research actual studies or science about surgery, claiming there is zero research.

@Deactivatedfatgal The person running that site and blog is bitter and deranged.

I had a friend from college, that had RNY back in the early 2000s. She had complications and ended up on a feeding tube. That sounds like a tragic story right? The part left out is 2 days after she was home she was drinking Coke (not even diet) and eating KFC (just a pinch to see if I can tolerate it she said). Her complications were brought on by herself. Not to mention she was not heavy enough to qualify for surgery and wore ankle and arm weights under her clothes to make her BMI high enough, Lots of people are not good cadidates for surgery but they don't tell that part of the story.

You can notice even around here when people say they regained, they NEVER tell exactly what they were eating and in what amounts. They keep it vague and say they were eating bad. If you were tracking their food and looking at their binges in print, they would be less likely to do that, but that isn't what happens.

So when people tell their WLS tales of woe, remember that there is more to the story.

Edited June 1, 20179 yr by OutsideMatchInside

33 minutes ago, OutsideMatchInside said:

Well, you need to find a supportive shrink.

GERD is 20% in the normal population and 10% in sleevers. Don't stress about it. Even if it is going to happen to you, worrying about it won't stop it, it will just make the situation worse.

Focus on losing weight and being healthy.

When people look at complication data, they forget that a lot of people were in terrible general health before they ever had surgery.

So since we have started down this path...

I'm looking at their blog http://suethsayings.blogspot.com/

This is what they have to say about the sleeve...

Really? because it is 5:30 PM and I have had 2 eggs, bacon, 32 ounces of coffee 32 ounces of iced tea, 32 ounce of Water, and 12 ounces of pork. My sleeve holds a lot. I'm about to suck down 100 grams (2 cups) of spinach. I still have 2 hours left to eat and I plan on doing some damage, LOL

They are completely ignoring ghrelin, but from the entire tone of their blog, they don't even research actual studies or science about surgery, claiming there is zero research.

@Deactivatedfatgal The person running that site and blog is bitter and deranged.

I had a friend from college, that had RNY back in the early 2000s. She had complications and ended up on a feeding tube. That sounds like a tragic story right? The part left out is 2 days after she was home she was drinking Coke (not even diet) and eating KFC (just a pinch to see if I can tolerate it she said). Her complications were brought on by herself. Not to mention she was not heavy enough to qualify for surgery and wore ankle and arm weights under her clothes to make her BMI high enough, Lots of people are not good cadidates for surgery but they don't tell that part of the story.

You can notice even around here when people say they regained, they NEVER tell exactly what they were eating and in what amounts. They keep it vague and say they were eating bad. If you were tracking their food and looking at their binges in print, they would be less likely to do that, but that isn't what happens.

So when people tell their WLS tales of woe, remember that there is more to the story.

Omg lol! Is she still on feeding tube? And you are right! Some of those bloggers are anti wls because they are miserable. One person was so adamant that it was a death sentence and someone mentioned partial gastrectomies & they go "do you think that person wanted half of their stomach cut out?" Definitely two sides to stories when talking about regain, that makes so much sense. I've found many successful people that are 7-10 years out, I have to remember that some of them have maintained their weight and are doing fine.

When I first started being active on here there was a poster that put a story about a woman who had to have her entire stomach removed. I was so scared. I almost bailed. Luckily a kind man who is pre op reached out (thank you Walter!) and talked me down. What's done is done, you have it now. Read success stories, think of how much better life is going to get. We're in the sucky phase right now. It won't last. If you didn't have GERD before and you're on Prilosec or similar your chances are low. Start thinking about what can go right!

1 minute ago, Joann454 said:

When I first started being active on here there was a poster that put a story about a woman who had to have her entire stomach removed. I was so scared. I almost bailed. Luckily a kind man who is pre op reached out (thank you Walter!) and talked me down. What's done is done, you have it now. Read success stories, think of how much better life is going to get. We're in the sucky phase right now. It won't last. If you didn't have GERD before and you're on Prilosec or similar your chances are low. Start thinking about what can go right!

Yes I read that also after my surgery. I know in my heart this was my last resort forsure. Carrying 235 pds around on frame under 5 ft was way more dangerous than wls impo. Thank you

1 hour ago, Deactivatedfatgal said:

Omg lol! Is she still on feeding tube?

LOL No. She has surgery 13 years ago.

Stories from one individual are merely anecdotal.

As far as anecdotal evidence goes, a more accurate presentation of surgery complications comes from health experts (doctors/surgeons/etc) who've performed surgeries, revisions, or dealt with post-op complications. With the slew of people you're bound to meet, ask questions and document answers to go back to in situations of anxiety.

And the best evidence are studies where they either access large swaths of people by getting consent for their information, so direct studies, and/or accumulating non-personal data from doctors who input general data into a collective system for analysis.

That's why before I had the surgery done I made sure to talk to as many people as I could (particularly specialists who've dealt with bariatric surgery scenarios and those with specific diseases/comorbidities that cater to their specialty) and ask as many questions as possible, read as many studies as possible to get a sense of what is normal, what to expect, what the clinical odds of things happening are.. so I would have a direct source of information that didn't come from internet gossip. I am a hypochondriac as well, and if I didn't keep myself away from these stories, I'd have gone nuts and likely affected my ability to get the surgery.

Edited June 2, 20179 yr by PatientEleventyBillion

Yeah, my wife is a professor and lives and dies by data. I know this logically but pre surgery I think I was looking for an out (wrapped up in the reason of being fully informed) and I sought out complications. I started to convince myself that I'd be the anomaly, I mean, someone has to be, right? She talked me off the edge and I'm so glad. Data and logic goes out the window if you're petrified.