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My horrible experience at a restaurant.

This is the review I left on the restaurant's Facebook.

"My mom and I just ate here for lunch today, and we are not pleased. Since Bistro V's food is expensive, we decided to just split a cheeseburger. When they brought out our food, they split our burger for us. We thought that was so kind of them, and were happy with that. The burger (which was listed as $9) was pretty good, but it wasn't much different than a Five Guy's burger. We chose to eat there because we like the bread they bring out, and the atmosphere is pleasant. When we got our ticket, I noticed that the bill was over $17. So, I looked at everything and noticed that they charged us a $3 split fee! Seriously?! So we notified the waitress, who said that it was automatically put on the ticket. We said we could have just split it ourselves, and that we are not paying a split fee. She got the manager (if that's what you want to call him), and he immediately had a snobby demeanor (that could just be his personality; it probably wasn't directed towards us). He said, "Y'all have a complaint?" I told him that it wasn't necessarily a complaint, but that I just don't understand why I have to pay a split fee when we could have just split the burger ourselves. He said, "Well, when two people are seated at a table, and only order one meal, there's automatically a split charge." So, I said, "That's ridiculous. We could have just split it ourselves. Also, what if someone didn't want to eat?" So then he hesitates and says, "Well, we gave you more food." (Which is a complete lie. I've ordered the cheeseburger before, and it was exactly the same size and came with the exact same amount of fries as the last time I ordered it.) They never told us beforehand that there would be a split charge. We didn't even ask them to split it for us; we just said we were going to split it. He did not apologize and he did NOT remove the fee. He made absolutely no effort to show that he is a pleasant or professional person. He took our payment and walked off. When he came back, he said, "Have a good day..." in a snarky tone. (Again, that's probably just how he acts in general.) We will not be back. It's not the fact that it was $3; it's the fact that no one should be charged a split fee, regardless, especially when the restaurant doesn't have the decency to notify the customer before the order goes through. I left my Yelp review and noticed that someone else complained about the split fee. They said that there's a split fee notification on the menu. But even still, how would anyone know to look for something like that? I've never been to a restaurant that has a split fee. It's like they were being sneaky about it; like some kind of fine print scam. It's like you can't come in and sit down in peace without looking at the menu to make sure there's not a "breathing the air" fee. I shouldn't have given a single tip, but the waitress was friendly, and it wasn't her fault for what happened. So, I left a tip, anyway."

They proceeded to leave snarky replies in response. So I emailed the owner in a very professional manner. She emailed me back saying, "Yelp about it". I was shocked. I could not believe that they were refusing to handle this situation like professionals. Not only that, but the owner's friends got on my review and began insulting me personally. The owner's mother-in-law even got on there and said things along the lines of, "People of certain class know that high end restaurants charge split fees. Since when does someone go to a high end restaurant and buy only one meal?" So I said, "I recently had stomach surgery. Why would I buy a meal that I cannot finish, when I can just split it with someone?" Then, a few minutes later, the owner emailed me back and said, "We will not tolerate abuse from our customers." Since when is a complaint abuse? They claim that I insulted their employee by saying he's snarky. Well he was! Wouldn't it have been easier to just say, "I apologize for the misunderstanding."? How hard is that? When they responded to me the way they did by saying "they won't tolerate", that makes me wonder if they will try to sue me for defamation. I did my research and found that the only way they can is if I make false claims. Not a single statement was false. I'm so livid and shocked by the complete disregard for my situation.

Some of my friends got on the review and began cussing the owner's friends out, because they were insulting me. I publicly tried to contain the situation by telling them to not cuss or call names. Not once did the owner publicly try to contain her Facebook friends. Not once did I receive an apology. She even tried saying that I could have my $3 refunded to me. Why would I drive 15 minutes to get $3? Why couldn't they have just given me the refund while I was at the restaurant? I told them I didn't want the refund of $3. I said that they could just give it to my waitress, because she was actually friendly; and that if she declined, then they could donate the money to the charity of their choice.

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    Nicer restaurants charge a split fee. If you don't want to pay stuff like that there is always Applebee's. Just because you are eating "less" does not mean you cost less to service. Why should

  • Having had my own business for 20 years, I can tell you that the restaurant manager handled this incorrectly. A good owner/manager diffuses a situation. They do not ramp it up. Yes...I had custo

  • I eat at nicer restaurants all the time, and I've never been charged a spilt fee. It's a bit disingenuous to suggest that it's a matter of class. It might be a matter of restaurant culture in certain

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Split fees are annoying and, I think, will become more common. It was a longstanding practice at a well-known NY restaurant, popular among locals and tourists. The place closed New Year's Eve after about 80 years in business. Sandwich prices ranged $20-$30 with a share charge of $3. You might blink at the price tag, but enough meat for about five normal-sized sandwiches went into each one. (Portions on all menu items were horrifying; no one ever left without a doggy bag.) At least the $3 surcharge yielded two extra slices of bread, tra-la-la.

@@Hiraeth, I'll agree that the manager could have handled matters better -- such as immediately deleting the charge while adding that he'd be able to do so only that time. I hope the incident is out of your system now. Between the time you discussed it with the restaurant people, your mother, on Facebook and Yelp, with your friends, the owner and here in BP, it seems it had a major impact on you. It's amazing that you knew who the owner's friends and mother-in-law were. Better things ahead. Things can only get better.

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I wouldn't care about $3. Especially on a check that low.

Ok then. Next time someone is rude to you when there's a misunderstanding, I'm sure you'll sit by and let them treat you that way.

I did not expect special treatment. I just expect to be treated respectfully. I did not cuss or scream at him, yet he was still rude. If he would have said, "I apologize for the misunderstanding. On the menu it says there's a split fee charge. I hope that is ok." But I didn't get anything close to that.

I think this is more the issue.

Wouldn't you complain if you felt like you were charged a fee that didn't belong?

It was stated on the menu, so it belonged. Just sayin'.

Don't leave a bad review just because you don't like a policy. But leaving a bad review because you felt they were rude to you is perfectly acceptable. I think it was handled incorrectly on both sides, IMO.

I leave a scathing Google or yelp review and let it go.

Although I'm level 4 on Google local guides so I don't have to review as much. I have my free storage.

But like I said, I wouldn't have asked about it because it wasn't worth it and I understand the fee.

I complain about things like cold food or places that serve fake butter and fake creamer.

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Split fees are annoying and, I think, will become more common. It was a longstanding practice at a well-known NY restaurant, popular among locals and tourists. The place closed New Year's Eve after about 80 years in business. Sandwich prices ranged $20-$30 with a share charge of $3. You might blink at the price tag, but enough meat for about five normal-sized sandwiches went into each one. (Portions on all menu items were horrifying; no one ever left without a doggy bag.) At least the $3 surcharge yielded two extra slices of bread, tra-la-la.

@@Hiraeth, I'll agree that the manager could have handled matters better -- such as immediately deleting the charge while adding that he'd be able to do so only that time. I hope the incident is out of your system now. Between the time you discussed it with the restaurant people, your mother, on Facebook and Yelp, with your friends, the owner and here in BP, it seems it had a major impact on you. It's amazing that you knew who the owner's friends and mother-in-law were. Better things ahead. Things can only get better.

I would have been ok with that charge if he had politely explained it to me, and told me it was on the menu. He didn't. I found out that it's on the menu through Yelp.

Also, I found out they were her friends because, as I was logically making my point, they responded nasty and insulted me. I then figured the manager recruited them to defend her. Sure enough, I was right, because they are on her friends list. The rudest lady even admitted that she's her mother-in-law. I didn't have to look for that info.

@@OutsideMatchInside you're right, it is. I didn't even think about that, just the smaller portion size ha

@@OutsideMatchInside you're right, it is. I didn't even think about that, just the smaller portion size ha

Most of the stuff on kids menus we can't even eat.

If I went to an expensive buffet like the $120 variety on Christmas I might try to use my card, especially since I don't drink.

However, sitting there I am taking up a seat that someone who is paying full price could be sitting in. So I would just pay full price. Business is business. So I don't go to expensive holiday buffets anymore.

Do you have the Bariatric Patient card? If not, you should get one and keep it with you whenever you dine out. I've never been told I can't order from the kids menu or pay the kids price at a buffet.

Is this a real thing and where did you get one? Seems like a great idea!

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Not true. I am not acting out of character. I complained because, to me, I felt that they were charging us for splitting it. They did not make an effort to tell us politely. Wouldn't you complain if you felt like you were charged a fee that didn't belong?

Now I'll say it because you're doing yourself a sad disservice.

When an unexpected charge appears on a bill, the usual thing is to ask about it; it doesn't have to be a complaint from the outset. Such matters usually are solved quickly and easily. True, you were given some bad attitude and your being annoyed is reasonable. The other side, though, is how much time you've invested in what in the scheme of life and the universe, is minor.

You didn't feel that you were being charged for sharing. You were in fact being charged according to the restaurant's policy. Lots of people miss the notice on the menu because the notice often is small and out of the way.

Here's my point: Is this battle worth hours, days and ulcers?

Not to me. I'm out.

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I leave a scathing Google or yelp review and let it go.

Although I'm level 4 on Google local guides so I don't have to review as much. I have my free storage.

But like I said, I wouldn't have asked about it because it wasn't worth it and I understand the fee.

I complain about things like cold food or places that serve fake butter and fake creamer.

I did leave a review.

When I complained to the manager, it was not a rude complaint. It was just a misunderstanding that could have been resolved. I honestly would not have cared about the charge, had they politely explained that there was a notification on the menu. But instead, he was very rude, which prompted my review. Had he been polite, I would have apologized for the misunderstanding, as well. But he was not at all polite. Since I am not familiar with split fee charges, I assumed that they were charging us just for splitting it for us. Since I've been to much nicer restaurants, and have never been charged a split fee, I did not know that some restaurants do this. As you can see, many people on here did not know restaurants charged one either. So why is it so hard to politely tell a customer that there's a notification on the menu? He did not handle the situation like a professional. That is why I left a review. When I emailed the GM about it, she left a rude reply, as well, and even claimed that I was abusing her employees, which is completely untrue. That is why I'm mad now. I would have let it go if she would have replied politely. But she did not.

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Not true. I am not acting out of character. I complained because, to me, I felt that they were charging us for splitting it. They did not make an effort to tell us politely. Wouldn't you complain if you felt like you were charged a fee that didn't belong?

Now I'll say it because you're doing yourself a sad disservice.

When an unexpected charge appears on a bill, the usual thing is to ask about it; it doesn't have to be a complaint from the outset. Such matters usually are solved quickly and easily. True, you were given some bad attitude and your being annoyed is reasonable. The other side, though, is how much time you've invested in what in the scheme of life and the universe, is minor.

You didn't feel that you were being charged for sharing. You were in fact being charged according to the restaurant's policy. Lots of people miss the notice on the menu because the notice often is small and out of the way.

Here's my point: Is this battle worth hours, days and ulcers?

Not to me. I'm out.

At first, it was not a complaint. It was a question. The assistant manager said, "Y'all have a complaint?" I said, "Well, it's not necessarily a complaint. I just don't understand why there's a split fee charge." He then said it's because they gave us more food. I did not notice more food, because they halved the bun and the burger, and gave us a handful of fries. See what I'm saying? It was like they assumed that I asked for more food and for them to split it for us, when I did not. I didn't even eat the fries. Not once did he explain that it's store policy and listed in the menu.

It was not a big deal until he acted so rudely. I did not make this a big deal until after I was treated that way by him, and his manager.

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I did not expect special treatment. I just expect to be treated respectfully. I did not cuss or scream at him, yet he was still rude. If he would have said, "I apologize for the misunderstanding. On the menu it says there's a split fee charge. I hope that is ok." But I didn't get anything close to that.

I think this is more the issue.

>> Wouldn't you complain if you felt like you were charged a fee that didn't belong?

It was stated on the menu, so it belonged. Just sayin'.

Don't leave a bad review just because you don't like a policy. But leaving a bad review because you felt they were rude to you is perfectly acceptable. I think it was handled incorrectly on both sides, IMO.

I did not leave a bad review because of the charge. I simply discussed the charge because that is what lead up to the rude actions of the assistant manager and general manager. Regardless, customers are supposed to be treated with respect. I was not rude to him when I asked about the charge. He was rude to me. I never would have left a bad review if the manager had been polite. I would have even apologized for misunderstanding. But since I was not treated politely, I left a bad review.

A lot of you think that I am upset purely because of the charge. That is not true. I was confused about it at first. Then when the assistant manager acted so rude about it, I became frustrated because I didn't understand why they wouldn't be polite. How hard is it to politely tell someone about a business policy? If you were confused about something, wouldn't you want it sorted out? That's what I tried doing. I wanted to understand why I was being charged when I never asked for the split or extra food. He could have politely explained that to me. But he didn't.

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Having had my own business for 20 years, I can tell you that the restaurant manager handled this incorrectly. A good owner/manager diffuses a situation. They do not ramp it up.

Yes...I had customers who were looking for a fight and I couldn't do a thing about it. But my late husband was a pro at handling unhappy customers and 90% of the time, the end result was a resolution that satisfied both parties...and often led to a return customer...which obviously this restaurant is not so interested in.

Your satisfaction might be when you pass by one day and they are out of business... :lol:

It's not the fact that it was $3; it's the fact that no one should be charged a split fee, regardless, especially when the restaurant doesn't have the decency to notify the customer before the order goes through. I left my Yelp review and noticed that someone else complained about the split fee.

@@Hiraeth

You've contradicted yourself several times just from your original post. First you said it was the split fee, then you said it was them being rude.

It is ridiculous and unreasonable to be upset over a policy that's already in place just because you don't like it. It's their policy, they have the right to enforce it. As someone who works with contracts, if it's anywhere on the menu, you have no claim to say it's not fair because you didn't see the disclaimer. The fact that the disclaimer is there is good enough for a court of law.

Like I said, them being rude is the bigger issue, but let's just admit you basically started it by demanding they not charge you the fee they state they charge in the first place.

I've worked in customer service for 20 years. I always treat my clients and customers with the utmost respect, but that doesn't mean they are always right, and I will politely tell them so. That "Customer is Always Right" rule is a crock and only allows them to take complete advantage of the business owner, and good business owners know how to handle the situation by sticking to their guns, but at the same time doing it in a respectful manner.

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