LOOK OVER THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE FOLLOWING TWO HOUSES AND SEE IF YOU CAN TELL WHICH BELONGS TO AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

HOUSE # 1:

A 20-room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house all heated by gas. In ONE MONTH ALONE this mansion consumes more energy than the average American household in an ENTIRE YEAR. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2,400.00 per month. In natural gas alone (which last time we checked was a fossil fuel), this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home. This house is not in a northern or Midwestern "snow belt," either. It's in the South.

HOUSE # 2:

Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university, this house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house contains only 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms) and is nestled on arid high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat pumps drawing ground Water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F.) heats the house in winter and cools it in summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas, and it consumes 25% of the electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Flowers and shrubs native to the area blend the property into the surrounding rural landscape.

ANSWERS:

HOUSE # 1 (20 room energy guzzling mansion) is outside of Nashville,Tennessee. It is the abode of that renowned environmentalist (and filmmaker) Al Gore.

HOUSE # 2 (model eco-friendly house) is on a ranch near Crawford, Texas. Also known as "the Texas White House," it is the private residence of the President of the United States, George W Bush.

So whose house is gentler on the environment? Yet another story you WON'T hear on CNN, CBS,ABC, NBC, MSNBC or read in the New York Times or the Washington Post. Indeed for Mr. Gore is "an inconvenient truth".

Fossil fuels produce waste. Nuclear plants produce waste. What's the answer? Build power plants on the moon and import it. Then when that proves to not take care of business, mine the moon for stuff we can burn to produce energy. Or, let's all move to Al Gore's place. He has room and burns enough energy to warm all of us and incubate our eggs.

I must say that this has been a great discussion. I don't mean to make light - oh yes, I guess I do.

P.S. DH and I both drive whopping SUVs. We'll trade them in on tiny little fuel efficient autos when you take all the semi-tractor trailer rigs off the road. Until then, we need some manner of protection when they try to run us over.

:hurray::confused: Hurray!!!!! BJean, I can finally whole-heartedly and absolutely agree with you on something!! Great post!!

Thanks LBloom! I hope you knew the first part of that post was strictly tongue in cheek.

Snuffy: Isn't America the single worst polluter in the world? My guess is that if we cut back, it actually would make a difference.

And hey, wait a minute... if the by-product of nuclear power is something we can use to make weapons that will not only kill people but make the environment lousy with radioactive material that keeps on giving, how is that a bad thing? Oh wait a minute, a peace loving person just might be elected next November. That may cut down on the need for more bigger, badder weapons in the near term, ya think?

Thanks LBloom! I hope you knew the first part of that post was strictly tongue in cheek.

Snuffy: Isn't America the single worst polluter in the world? My guess is that if we cut back, it actually would make a difference.

And hey, wait a minute... if the by-product of nuclear power is something we can use to make weapons that will not only kill people but make the environment lousy with radioactive material that keeps on giving, how is that a bad thing? Oh wait a minute, a peace loving person just might be elected next November. That may cut down on the need for more bigger, badder weapons in the near term, ya think?

, not sure if your using sarcasm and agreeing with me or just being patronizing.

Thanks LBloom! I hope you knew the first part of that post was strictly tongue in cheek.

DARN----and I was just getting ready to begin singing Kum-ba-ya, too....

Who me, sarcastic? :confused:

We can sing anyway, Bloom. It'd give me a chance to stroll down church camp memory lane. Besides, I got really tired of all the negative-speak that went on here last week. Singing Kum-ba-ya is much more soothing to the soul.

Hydrogen technology, Jack! What a concept!

snuffy: I'm always on your team. But since the DH no longer works in defense contracting, I don't have to vote for war anymore.

Who me, sarcastic? :confused:

We can sing anyway, Bloom. It'd give me a chance to stroll down church camp memory lane. Besides, I got really tired of all the negative-speak that went on here last week. Singing Kum-ba-ya is much more soothing to the soul.

Hydrogen technology, Jack! What a concept!

snuffy: I'm always on your team. But since the DH no longer works in defense contracting, I don't have to vote for war anymore.

:eek::eek::eek:

Newsmax.com - Gore Has Personal Stake in Anti-Warming Campaign

While I don't think it's inconsistent to invest in things you believe in, I do believe people should be aware that Gore stands to profit financially from the promotion of "green".

Newsmax.com - Gore Has Personal Stake in Anti-Warming Campaign

While I don't think it's inconsistent to invest in things you believe in, I do believe people should be aware that Gore stands to profit financially from the promotion of "green".

Pretty good article but again, do some more research. The story sounds like he is invested in all those companies he was showing on the overhead, however he isn't.

His GIM investing portfolio has been made public you should see alot of reports like these:

According to the report, GIM has $438 million invested in the following 22 companies: AFLAC, Amdocs, Autodesk, Becton Dickinson, Blackbaud, Donaldson Company, General Electric, Greenhill & Co., HDFC Bank, Johnson Controls, Laboratory Corporation of America, Metabolix, Millipore, Mueller Water Products, Northern Trust, Procter & Gamble, SPDR Trust, Staples, Techne Corp., UBS, Varian Medical Systems and Waters Corp.

GIM's top five holdings are Johnson Controls, AFLAC, Becton Dickinson, General Electric and Procter & Gamble.

Al Gore says on the GIM web site that, "Integrating issues such as climate change into investment analysis is simply common sense."

But with the exception of General Electric -? which actively lobbies for global warming regulation while its stock significantly underperforms the broad stock market ?- GIM's portfolio doesn't seem to have anything to do with climate change. Notably absent from GIM's portfolio are energy and utility companies -? even those that claim they will benefit from global warming regulation. With the exception of GE, corporate members of the pro-global warming regulation lobbying group called the U.S. Climate Action Partnership are also missing from GIM's portfolio.

This story went out last year and ever since conservative moderators just bring up GE. GE is the only company that directly relates to what Al Gore is preaching. This is because GE makes the energy saving light bulbs he mentioned.

GE is this largest non-oil company in the world sells thousands of products. I highly doubt their stock would go that much if they sold a few more lgiht bulbs.

TRY AGAIN! :thumbup::confused:

Edited April 11, 200818 yr by snuffy65

Where does one find a copy of his current investment portfolio and how can one be sure it is comprehensive?

Where does one find a copy of his current investment portfolio and how can one be sure it is comprehensive?

That is his porfolio. Its been displayed on all news sites including all major news organizations. Also, the same news article you linked got it's reporting from a right wing site that posted the same portfolio.

Liberal sites have been hollaring becasue Gore doesn't have any "Green" companies in their portfolio.

Conservative sites are hollaring about Gore having GE in there.

Most financial investors will tell you any major investment firm has stock in GE.

Edited April 11, 200818 yr by snuffy65

I just wanted to add he does have a charity organization that does invest in "green" companies. So Al Gore technically has a kind of "stake" in more "green" companies, however he in no way profits from them.

I don't think in anyway this suggests erroneous behavior.

That is his porfolio. Its been displayed on all news sites including all major news organizations.

But how can one be sure it is current and comprehensive?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is under no obligation to disclose his portfolio publicly. Therefore, how can we be assured that what he does disclose is comprehensive?

But how can one be sure it is current and comprehensive?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is under no obligation to disclose his portfolio publicly. Therefore, how can we be assured that what he does disclose is comprehensive?

By US Law if you are making over $100 Million in investments you are required to fill out a Form 13F. Which makes you fill out all your holdings, including how any stocks and what type they are. This 13F form is what news reports were coming from.

Here's a link to the Fed site: Form 13F—Reports Filed by Institutional Investment Managers

By US Law if you are making over $100 Million in investments you are required to fill out a Form 13F. Which makes you fill out all your holdings, including how any stocks and what type they are. This 13F form is what news reports were coming from.

Here's a link to the Fed site: Form 13F—Reports Filed by Institutional Investment Managers

How will I find specifically Gore's investments here?

How will I find specifically Gore's investments here?

Because, the news site reports off that F13 form that he had to fill out. Which is in the same story YOU posted!

What? You want me to go to the federal commerce building and pull the fricken original document or something?