Has anyone tried the wonder slim products or bari wise products? I've been thinking about ordering some to try before I have my surgery but I don't want to waste my money.

I need some ideas for after the liquid phase of my diet!

Thanks!

Has anyone tried the wonder slim products or bari wise products? I've been thinking about ordering some to try before I have my surgery but I don't want to waste my money.

I need some ideas for after the liquid phase of my diet!

Thanks!

I have not tried them, I looked into some of their "fruit juice" Protein drinks and found collagen in them so at that point I simply lost interest in them as a provider for any of my health needs.

Collagen is a protein, which is probably why a lot of their products are high in proteins.

Collagen is a protein' date=' which is probably why a lot of their products are high in Proteins.[/quote']

You are correct, collagen aka Gelatin is a Protein, however it is a protein that cannot be absorbed by the human body. Just like all those protein shots out there. You can consume it, but you will recieve no benefit from it. And by all means do not count it toward your daily protein consumption.

I looked into it and decided against it.. I've looked into some yummy ways to make protein bars using protein powder instead. my concern is that the bars and products just seem too much like the foods that got me into this trouble in the first place. for me, I can't start a healthy new lifestyle when I feel like I'm eating candy bars every day for nutrition... so I'll make protein bars at home so I can control the ingredients and sweetness.

I looked into it and decided against it.. I've looked into some yummy ways to make protein bars using protein powder instead. my concern is that the bars and products just seem too much like the foods that got me into this trouble in the first place. for me, I can't start a healthy new lifestyle when I feel like I'm eating candy bars every day for nutrition... so I'll make protein bars at home so I can control the ingredients and sweetness.

do u have any recipes to share for protein bars ?

do u have any recipes to share for Protein bars ?

The one that tickled my fancy contain: protein powder, oats, PB2, milk.. you mix it all up and then roll it into balls and freeze.... I'm not currently eating any grains so I haven't tried yet.. but when I get to that stage post-op I'm going to start experimenting.. If you google around online there are a lot of suggestions!

So I need to look for collagen free products. Is there anything else I should look for? I knew those products were too good to be true!

I have had it and the hot chocolate is amazing!!!! Good night treat to get an extra 12 protein in!!! Also puddings are good but the hot chocolate is to die for!!! Taste like normal hot chocolate !! Do it!

And it was wonder slim

Also the collagen thing... My doc said it counts but as we all know everyone is different!! I'm down 51lbs in five weeks! I must be doing soothing right!!

Also the collagen thing... My doc said it counts but as we all know everyone is different!! I'm down 51lbs in five weeks! I must be doing soothing right!!

The PDCAAS is the standard at which Protein quality is rated. The fact is that collagen/gelatin is a horrible source of protein. I'm sure your doctor is a great person' date=' and gas good intentions, however in this case he/she is wrong. I don't take specific nutritional advice from doctors, just as I didn't go to a nutritionist to perform my surgery.

The PDCAAS's score ranges from 0.000 to 1.000. The best score possible being 1.000

The following is a PDCAAS chart so you can see the score for yourself.

Also note there is no PER score for collagen. This is because it is such a poor quality protein source that the PER can't even score it.

The PDCAAS is the standard at which Protein quality is rated. The fact is that collagen/gelatin is a horrible source of protein. I'm sure your doctor is a great person, and gas good intentions, however in this case he/she is wrong. I don't take specific nutritional advice from doctors, just as I didn't go to a nutritionist to perform my surgery.

The PDCAAS's score ranges from 0.000 to 1.000. The best score possible being 1.000

The following is a PDCAAS chart so you can see the score for yourself.

Also note there is no PER score for collagen. This is because it is such a poor quality protein source that the PER can't even score it.

Which is why porkrinds have tons of protein but the package states "not a significant source of protein" !

Very interesting!

Companies should be required to list their EFFECTIVE protein instead of protein that can't even be metabolized by the body. What is the point of even having protein listed?

Ok here comes my dumb question...why do pork rinds have protein but they list they don't?