:cry I'm still about 2 weeks out from getting my first fill. Funniest thing happened today.....had a Arby's sandwich for lunch and had the hardest time with it. Never did before but today was weird. I had the hardest time getting it down. I finally just threw it back in the bag and just drank my crysal light (when I was able to breath again of course) Then I thought I was going to hurl it all back up. Like it was just sitting there waiting to come but it never did. My mouth started to water and I was trying to spit, actually it was "slimy" was this PB'ing or Sliming as I've often heard it called. I started to think that maybe I actually was starting to feel some restriction because I'm kind of having a hard time in that dept too. :phanvan Just wondered.

Hey Kim -

Yep - that sounds about right - a slime - oooooohhhhhh. :-) Hey - I like your new avatar!

I've always though your avatar was so cute... So this is what sliming is :faint:

Do you think this is what restriction is for me or that I just had a hard time with that particular food?

Ah thanks - Who really has a picture of themself eating?? Me. ;-( Thought is was appropriate at the time though!

I dunno. I think it happened to me when I didn't chew well enough so something got "stuck". Not sure that means restriction (although the restriction causes it I think). Just that when it tried to pass through there was no way in heck that it would go through. On another thread tonight, they said try meat tenderizer mixed with a bit of warm fluid or papaya extract to break down the protein and cause the food to break apart. Discussion is still ongoing as to exactly what kind foods this will work on. My research leads me to think that it will work on anything with protein.

No firm answers here as I really don't know! My counselor said that the slime comes from your body trying to produce mucus to make whatever is stuck slide down. If it remains stuck, your body just keeps producing this and it's a vicious cycle.

I think restriction is where you eat and get full after eating a small amount. Not necessarily equivalent to "stuck". Just my thoughts - maybe we'll hear otherwise :-).

Do you think this is what restriction is for me or that I just had a hard time with that particular food?

This is the effect that restriction has when you're not careful enough chewing or have eaten too fast, yep! It's not a "complication," though, so I'm going to move this thread.

Sliming is indeed the excess production of saliva; your body's reaction to something not going through the esophagus the way it should. Swallowing this saliva is the worst thing you can do; that's why it's a good idea to have a receptacle handy if you're not near a bathroom while eating and think you might have this problem.

Presumably you've come away from this experience motivated to be a little more careful when eating, so as to avoid it in future. Behavior modifiction in action! This is the way the band works--welcome to bandlandia!

Swallowing this saliva is the worst thing you can do; that's why it's a good idea to have a receptacle handy if you're not near a bathroom while eating and think you might have this problem.

I had to chuckle when I read this.

I currently eat in my living room (who wants to sit at a table alone? blech), and if I'm eating chicken (which has caused many problems for me in the past), I always have one of those little ziploc containers with a lid on the table with me, just in case. I started doing that after I couldn't get up off the couch fast enough. Honestly, you do *not* want to have to clean the slime off your clothes, floor or furniture later.

yup, that was indeed sliming and sort of normal/expected behaviour if you are not careful. :faint:

I'm at what I think is a good level of restriction and I hardly ever slime, get stuck or PB, but I'm careful because I HATE it when I PB. HATE, HATE, HATE. I feel the same way about being stuck....

Anyway, yup, that slime is what I refer to as "ectoplasm" ... ick ick ick

Yep, that was sliming, alright... Now, it may have made it worse when you grabed the crystal light. Drinking while eating is a no-no...1) it can clean the pouch out and you will still be hungery, and 2) if you have eaten your solid protein, the CL will come straight back out the way it went in...you should wait at least an hour after eating to drink anything.

Thanks all.... I've discovered today that I may not be giving myself a chance to find out if I truly have restriction. I think I'm eating "around the band" a little too often. But the sliming thing was definatly a wake up call!!!

by the way, if you stretch out your top pouch can you shrink it back?

I dont know about the stretching part but I have had a lot of sucess just eating the meat from the sandwiches, throw out the bun. Chew like crazy and enjoy the meat, its pretty good for you too. I think that Arbys has the best meat. I never feel guilty eating that stuff as some of the beef I cook is hard for me to eat. I keep a clean paper cup with a lid in my car just in case, I has already come in handy sorry to say!

Yep, sounds like both restriction and slimes to me. Might have been the bread. That kills a lot of us.

Ugh, I hate the slimes. It always reminds me of that dinosaur in Jurassic Park that spits slime out of their mouth to kill that "thick" guy that was stealing the DNA in the Barbasol can!!

I could never eat sandiches or hamburgers of any type. Ever. Always resulted in PB's. Took only a couple of times for me to learn tho.