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I have no idea I don't count!

When your band slips in the future please don't post saying the band doesn't work etc etc. Remember the fact that you chose to ignore your Dr's instructions. Your Dr who has studied for many years and has medical qualifications.the rules especially the diet progression are there to help the band settle and not slip. The rules are not there just to make our lives difficult.

You need a fill but you also need to learn to slow down and chew properly first. As you say you seem to be suffering with user error.After a fill the problems will only get worse. I would call what you are doing PBing even if you are not actually burping. Vomiting comes from the stomach not from above the band. Also don't expect a reall small amount of food to be able to keep you full from one meal to the next. that is a fairly unrealistic expectation and can lead to being too tight. To stay full you need to be able to eat a reasonable amount of food. You may also find that you need a healthy planned snack inbetween meals - i know i do. I cannot go from lunch at approx noon to dinner at 7pm without eating something inbetween.

There are things you can do that don't involve food. Bowling Mini Golf Walks(beach,countryside) movies(eating is not essential) museums It all depends what you are into. You might even find a date like this turns out to be a lot more fun than the wining and dining kind.

Now back to the original question. I get very annoyed with all the focus on global warming. Firstly I don't believe in man made global warming. The heating up and cooling down of the planet is all part of natures cycle. Hell without global warming we'd be stuck in an ice age. I also don't like the fact that the focus on GW makes people forget the broader picture. They all think they are amazing if they switch off a light but have no qualms about deforestation, extinction of species etc. People come up with bandaid solutions. E.g Wind turbines. They are ugly,noisy and inefficient and don't stand a hope of producing the amount of elec we require. Sadly by the time people realise this we will be left with a planet covered in ugly,rusting,useless turbines. So yes I don't like tree huggers(using Bob's definition) but I have lots of time for people that genuinely care abbout the environment and all aspects of it.Not ones that are just jumping on the GW bandwagon. One word. Copenhagen! Oh and finally -can some one please tell me what happened to acid rain, cos I grew up being told that acid rain would destroy the planet.It hasn't been mentioned for a long time now because obviously they were wrong. Maybe we should take bets on what the next smokescreen environmental issue will be.

Love it!!!!!!!!!

The animals over people debate. This could get heated. Generally animals are kind, trusting and only turn nasty when abused,hungry etc. As far as I know there are no animals with paedophiliac tendencies nor do they torture and kill other animals for sexual gratification. I do not believe that animals were put on earth to be used by humans. I believe that they should be treated fairly and that even farm animals destined for the pot should have a good life. If it came down to choosing between people and animals it would depend on the person. If they were decent people then I would probably have to choose the person over the animal although it would kill me to do so - I would rather save both. But if were talking a Jeffrey dahmer, Martin bryant,Derrick bird, Fred West then the animal would win every time.

Is tree hugging a new sexual position?

Who cares what he thinks,he doesn't matter.

Well politicians can't admit they have ever made a mistake can they ? They have to try and justify what they have done. I hope you are right. There are a couple of countries that worry me though - China is one - I believe that they could withstand a prolonged war and that their military could equal or beat the US. I hope that I am wrong and that I never have to find out. North Korea is also a problem. Not because of the strength of their army but because they have nuclear weapons and they are run by a total nut job! NB. This thread has become a lot more interesting than it was in the beginning. It's amazing where you can allow yourself to end up when you get sidetracked! Even though none of us will probably ever meet I still feel more comfortable arguing on a thread about religion than on one that discusses your favourite sexual position or some of the other threads that we have in the off topic sections of the board!

Bob Have you forgotten Northern Ireland or is that not considered modern. The dumb thing there is that they are all Christian but the Catholics and Protestants couldn't get along.

This could have benefits. Someone else to do the ironing when you don't feel like it etc . However I believe that there is a tribe somewhere where they practice the opposite - Women are allowed more than 1 husband. personally I believe that they have it right. Why? Well there is no way that one man can afford to keep more than one woman in the manner in which she would like to be kept. However if one women were allowed multiple husbands then she could have a really good lifestyle. Plus you could have the benefits of having an older man whom you love for his mind, a younger man whom you love for his body etc!

Exactly. Most atrocities are committed in the name of some religion. Most wars are started in the name of religion. One of the main reasons most can't get on with each other is because of differences in religion. They happen because people believe so fervently that what they believe is right and that everyone else is wrong. Does that kind of behaviour sound familiar? In fact I think we would be far better off without religion. it would be one less thing to fight and kill people over. But I suppose the downside is that without it we would need to find another way of controlling the masses and also giving people comfort.

Well said. I agree with you. However I am not a Christian, or a Jew or a Muslim or whatever.And guess what I still love my family, friends, try to help other people when I can and do the right thing because it is the RIGHT thing to do. Does that make me any less a person? I also don't go around preaching to other people telling them that my way is right and that theirs is wrong. I don't try to convert them. I don't tell them that 'life" is going to be terrible after they die (LOL) because they didn't believe in some religious entity!

Aren't you the lucky one Bob! I hate it when people say they will pray for me as though I am somehow lacking something and in need of urgent help.

Your Dr may have put in some fill already and this could be causing the problems. Lots of people that have fill added during surgery find that with the swelling and everything else it causes problems. Call your Dr and ask. If you have been prefilled it can be removed so that you can recover and heal and then in a couple of weeks time you should be ready for your first fill.

I was also wondering why you are so focused on the total fill amount. You should not judge your restriction based on the number but on how you feel. If you can eat small portions, not be hungry between meals or planned Snacks and are losing weight then you don't need a fill. From the sounds of it you have been very successful so far. Don't risk messing that up by being too tight. You may end up eating high calorie sliders, getting reflux or slipping your band.

Just saw and read this thread. Bored already. Same people , same c@@P! YES "Happy Clappies" are extremely annoying but then so are Jehovahs Witnesses and other religious types that come around and try to convert you. Sometimes I think God must have them on a bonus scheme like parking attendants!

Toasted sandwiches are often difficult as they involve 2 pieces of bread, try having an open toasted sandwich. I find it far easier to eat an open sandwich as it only has one slice of bread.Plus tuna can be a bit dry as well. Remember don't give up on a food just because you have had difficulty with it once. Next time you try eating it could be very different.

Losing a couple of chins may lead to crepey skin on your neck! I know which I'd rather have.If its really bad you can have plastic surgery. If the rest of the body has loose or wrinkly skin you can hide it under clothes and still look slim - something you can't do when you are hugely overweight. Lets face it - fat is not attractive.

This might sound harsh but to me it sounds as though you are making excuses. It's up to you if you want to lose the weight or not. If you do get with the program. if you don't then carry on the way you are. It seems silly to have gone through surgery just to have a very expensive piece of plastic sitting around your stomach doing nothing. Try to remember why you did this in the first place. i am sure the reasons that were there then for losing weight are still there.

A slider food is one that goes down easily, is high calorie and low nutrition. Whilst you may be able to get the salad down easily it is low cal(so long as its not smothered in dressing) and is highly nutritious so it is not a slider. At least the salad that you are describing actually sounds like a salad. I see so many threads on here about "salads" and they seem to consist of meat/cheese/sour cream/dressing etc with maybe a couple of token lettuce leaves. If you are able to eat the kind of salads that you are eating then continue to do so. They are really good for you - packed full of Vitamins and minerals.Be just be careful with raw carrots. Make sure they are grated and chewed really well as they can cause blockages!

Firstly lets say that a weight loss of 35lb would put you right on track. Remember that the band is designed to help you lose 1 - 2lb per week.So maybe if you look at that and realise that you are successful that you are not a failure it will give you a bit of a boost. It sounds as though there are other issues that could impede your weight loss so I think going to see a psych that specailises in food addiction/eating disorders would be a really great idea. Maybe for some reason you are scared to be slim. Maybe you are hiding behind the weight.There are lots of possibilities. I think part of the problem maybe that even though you were told that the band is only a tool you still somehow expected it to be a magical fix and for the weight to just drop off. Now that you realise that that's not going to happen you have to take responsibility for your success and start working with it. If you find some kind of exercise that you like you are more likely to stick with it. You don't have to sweat it out in the gym - you just have to get active. You could try Zumba, dancing, cycling, walking, swimming ............... I am sure that you can find something that you enjoy. Once you have decent restriction you won't be able to drink with your meals as it will be too uncomfortable. So get back on the bandwagon, go and see your Dr and get excited about how amazing you are going to look in a couple of months time.

Very strange first post! Most people start off on these boards by introducing themselves, giving a little background etc. Instead you seem to be plugging a certain type of op and a certain Dr. There is a sleeve board where you are more likely to get a response from someone who has been sleeved. Try posting your questions there as well.

Sorry to hear what you are going through. I am with your husband on this one. You need to give your body chance to recover from the miscarriages.This will help give you a better chance of a healthy pregnancy. I know its hard but try to relax and look after yourself. Being tense and stressed won't help.