gadgetlady

Wait, what? You don't approve of Bush's spending money (neither do I), but you want Obama because he'll spend more?

Here's a few quotes before I run out the door for dinner. Enjoy! "The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments." -George Washington "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." -George Washington "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -Thomas Jefferson "Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem." -Ronald Reagan

The information on this abounds, and is not new, and Obama does not deny it. Here's one source for you: Reading Between the Lines: Post, Tribune: Is Obama really African-American? (links to other documentation within, as well). There are plenty of others. Let me know if you'd like a plethora of them, or if you can find them for yourself. I'm leaving the house now but am happy to provide them when I get home.

Here's a great article on taxation. It dispels some of the myths and misconceptions about taxes, and gives you the places where you can confirm the facts for yourself: American Thinker- Print Article It also points out that The Communist Manifesto's second plank is, "A heavy progressive or graduated income tax."

I have liberal acquaintances and family members, but when I'm choosing who I want to spend my precious spare time with, I don't choose to hang out with liberals. I'd tell you why, but you'd be offended.

Care to let me in on the joke? Because I've been dead serious on this thread today. Oh, oh, wait! Do you mean Obama is a joke? NOW I get it!:rolleyes2:

I suspect the reverse is also true. I hear a lot of them are gay :rolleyes2: Yeah, I'd be a lot more successful with my weight loss if I stayed away from chocolate, ice cream, and Skinny Cows.

I would offer to bring some of my liberal friends, but . . . I don't have any.

Ahhh, no can do. My wonderful husband only strips for me :rolleyes2:. {sigh} I can bring some diet root beer and low-fat ice cream and make root beer floats. Does that work?

Um, OK. Glad I could make you laugh :rolleyes2: although I'm not sure what I said that you consider funny.

I never said he was. But that is how others view him, and I think it's hilarious. That's what I said. And yet he chooses not to share that information. Which is why others have to dig it up and expose him. Now I'm the one scratching my head. I didn't define his ethnic background. His ethnic background defines his ethnic background.

Here's a great visual of how I feel: fair.png (image)

Hmmm. I don't drink beer. Not only can't I stand the taste, but it's not worth the calories. I'd rather have chocolate. Am I still invited? Everyone else can drink beer and I'll just use the big red pen on behalf of all involved [bwg].

No, it does not, or it should not. What cracks me up about this whole issue is that Obama isn't "African-American" in the sense of having descended from slaves brought over to the US (as we commonly "define" the term "African-American"). He is 1/2 white, and the other 1/2 is mostly Arab, not African, and the Arab part of his family were slave-owners and slave-traders. He doesn't have one relative that was a slave. In the grand scheme of things, does it matter? No more than his "color" does, but I just find it hilarious that uninformed people cling to his being an "African-American" when he really descended from slave-traders, not slaves.

There's a bit of a difference here. Obama made friggin $4,200,000 last year alone. I am so incensed at his utter hypocrisy. The "illegal alien" thing aside, having a family member in public housing when you make that kind of money -- and preach that everyone should be their brother's keeper -- is outrageous. Having a half-brother who makes $12 PER YEAR and not helping him out is the epitome of "do as I say, not as I do." Give the poor guy a $20 bill!I promise -- it doesn't hurt to give people a hand up. I've done it many times, for non-family members, to the tune of a lot more than a measely $20 bill that will double their annual income.I don't believe in forcing people to do it, like Obama does, but I do firmly believe in (unforced) charity -- ESPECIALLY to family!!!!!!! CLEARLY, OBAMA DOES NOT. Oh, and add to that that this poor woman, in publicly funded housing, donated $260 to Obama's campaign -- ILLEGALLY (because she's not a US citizen). It took the news story's breaking to get him to return it.

Here's why people are voting for Obama: Obama Supporters Wait Hours To See Candidate Speak - Videos - WTVJ. Go to about 45 seconds from the end, to hear a woman attending an Obama rally say, "It was the most memorable time of my life. It was a touching moment." Reporter: "Why?" "Because I never thought this day would ever happen. I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage. You know, if I help him, he's gonna help me."

For all of you doubters, this came up on MSNBC and NOT Fox News. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27459080/from/id/27481680/ She's an illegal alien, was denied asylum and deported in 2004, yet is still living in the US in public housing in Boston. Your taxpayer dollars at work! P.S. If Obama is so big on being "your brother's keeper", why is his 1/2 brother in Kenya living on $12 a year and his illegal-alien aunt living in public housing? Seems to me just a tiny, itsy-bitsy chunk of his $4,200,000.00 2007 income could have helped his blood relatives out just a smidge.

Wow! A lot happened while I was gone! Can I get in on that red-pen party? I want a big, thick sharpie.

I disagree. The Supreme Court has been liberal for years, and still is. It's a mostly 5-liberal, 4-conservative court (with some swaying depending on the issue). The justices expected to retire soon are all liberal, so replacing them with liberals will maintain the liberal swing.

Oh - and I heard today that Gov Bill Richardson lowered the threshold today for "rich" -- it's now down to $120k. Wonder how low it has to get before "true believers" start getting "squirmy".

What is "their share"? Why is it considered "fair" when the top 10% of earners pay 70% of the income tax? When the top 1% pay close to 40% of the income tax? When the bottom 50% only pay 3%? When 30% pay none at all?

Beth, I have to agree with you. Granted, there is disrespectful and hateful behavior by the right-wing, but it is much more prevalent, hateful, and accepted by the left-wing. I've not only heard about it, but I've been a victim of it.

Change. Because that's all you'll have left after he takes all your money.

Keep the change.

Thanks, guys, for your vote of confidence. I do always try to remain respectful, but I must say not everyone shares your view. I have been called all sorts of things on this board, including bitter, mean, hateful, spiteful, angry, intolerant, and judgmental. I have also done my fair share of responding "in kind" when I've been attacked (when I've been out of line I have always apologized). But it saddens me when these discussions come to personal attacks, because that means that the reall issues aren't being addressed and people's minds are being closed rather than opened.