ShelterDog64

GENEPRO and unjury unflavored I have found that both of these are good as far as not changing the flavor, but they do change the texture for me which is unpalatable to me. Not disagreeing, but just to contrast...I can't detect any texture change with genpro, but Unjury tastes AND feels weird to me. If you can get a sample or borrow a scoop from someone in your support group, do that. Everyone's taste/sensitivity is different.

@@trekker954 A few thoughts: Dairy Protein is easier for me than animal protein. I know you said you don't care for it, but I can't imagine doing this without using greek yogurt. Have you tried several brands and flavors? I'm not a big cottage cheese fan but you can't beat it for protein, so I eat it. I also use GENEPRO in my morning coffee, plus if I have Soup or refried Beans, I add a scoop to that. If I have a cup of tea later in the day, I add a scoop. There's no way you should push beyond your restriction to get protein in. That would be antithetical to the surgery we all just had. Your nutritionist must have some rationale for requiring 3 meals a day, I'd ask for the reason for it. If you've never been a snacker/grazer, maybe she'd feel comfortable supporting a 4th or 5th meal a day, or maybe like @@Bufflehead's NUT, you could add Protein shakes without them counting as a 'meal'. That wouldn't be the case with my program, if you eat it you count it, but clearly there are variations and semantics to deal with in comparing us all.

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@@summerset ** don't know how to deal with patients who have an addiction as strong as causing them to engage in really harmful eating behaviors in the healing phase. I guess maybe they should not have had surgery in the first place at the current stage of their addiction. However, I feel awkward making a statement like this, it feels too judgmental.** I don't think it's judgmental when you can see the failures we see every day here. Maybe it's the difference between just lack of willpower and true food addiction...the sleeve has been enough, at least so far, to facilitate the cure of my lack of willpower, but I'm not sure it's capable of providing the same for true addiction.

Good morning, BP! Over the last few weeks, my stomach has been rejecting meat in most forms...I can eat a little bit of fish, and maybe a bite of chicken, but nothing else. I'm consuming a lot of dairy and doing fine getting my Protein in, but I know some of you are vegetarians or vegans and may have some ideas for protein that I haven't thought of. What's out there beyond cheese and Beans? My dietitian suggested textured vegetable protein, but the smell kills me...I can't put it in my mouth. I should probably try it in tomato sauce? Anyway, any suggestions would be appreciated. I've lost 71 lbs and hope to reach my goal by the end of January, so I'm in the home stretch. My bmi is now just overweight instead of obese, and I really think I'm going to make it to goal...I just need a little push and some new Proteins might be just the thing

sleep apnea is something your anesthesiologist or nurse anesthetist will be able to manage during your surgery. They'll ventilate you with positive pressure through your endotracheal tube. They deal with obstructive sleep apnea all the time, particularly in WLS patients. It's vital that they're informed of the severity of your apnea, but you shouldn't be concerned about not waking up or having complications due to it. Also, you'll need your CPAP in the hospital afterward.

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@@summerset If I can lay my hands on the study (and I'm not even sure it was a full study, it may have been an abstract) I read, I'll cite it. Our medical library did a literature search and printed it for me, it's somewhere in the mass of papers I accumulated during my self-education re: sleeve/RNY/DS. Seems to me I couldn't get to it on the non-subscription site. It didn't address post-op care at all, just pre-op education, iirc.

@@busybeebug I had my surgery June 21st and my stomach started rejecting meat about a month ago. Not sure what the deal is, but I'm almost completely on dairy, Beans and Protein powder right now. Meat, pork in particular, has made me foam, slime and vomit...not exactly craving it right now, but I've been told this is probably a phase and will change.

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@@Aggiemae You can add unflavored Protein to almost anything...refried Beans, cottage cheese, any drink whether its hot or cold, applesauce, yogurt, broth, etc. If you get into the habit of doing that, you can eat more 'real' food and use fewer shakes for supplementation.

Link to full paper? Been a smarmy bitching long? Good GRIEF, she asked for a link to a paper and you call her a smarmy bitch? What the hell???

Link to full paper? I read something similar to this in SOARD, which is the journal of the American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery. But it didn't address time between decision and surgery, it addressed education between the same. I think sometimes people decide that time = education when that's not necessarily the case. There are differences of opinion about practice norms across the entire spectrum of healthcare, but there are known best practices as well. For example, our bariatric surgeons implemented an educational pathway in response to studies that showed improved outcomes in well-educated patients. They've also discontinued routinely having patients do pre-op liquid diets, as there is no evidence of improved outcomes by doing so. These are considered best practice decisions, but they also have some silly things they've left in our post-op instructions, like not using straws post-op. This is the preferred outcome for most of for-profit healthcare, unfortunately.

And I am sure a lot of them had to wait months for surgery and had to go through pre-op programs to get approved. Or is there any evidence they all had no or only short waiting periods? This is what I was thinking, summerset. I'm unconvinced that waiting time correlates to education and then to success. I moved very quickly through our pathway, about 60 days start to finish. I learned very little from the slew of classes, appointments, meetings, etc. that I didn't already know from my extensive research, prior college education and self-education. I spent those 60 days seeing the same people, some of whom absorbed a great deal and some who might as well have skipped the whole thing, judging by their attitudes, questions and issues during post-op support group meetings. I think some people are learners and some aren't...you could have a year of classes and there will still be those who eat fried chicken on their way home from the hospital.

I took pjs to change into before I started walking and my own slippers...I hate hospital gowns and those socks. Hygiene items, phone/tablet/chargers. A book if you don't read on a tablet.

I'm almost 5 months post-op, so this will look like a lot of volume to you: Breakfast is a cup of coffee with a scoop of Protein powder, for 20g +/-. Sometimes I also have a greek yogurt, but I'm not a breakfast lover and the protein in my coffee keeps me going until later in the day. A single-serve greek yogurt is 15g protein and if I don't have it for breakfast, I'll have it at lunch time. Mid-morning, I'll have a cheese stick (8g) or a couple of apple wedges with a tablespoon of Peanut Butter (4g). Mid-afternoon, an ounce of almonds (6g) or 1/2 cup cottage cheese with pureed no sugar added preserves (15g) dinner is usually two ounces of some kind of protein, like salmon (15g) and a couple of ounces of a vegetable. Before bed, if I need more protein for the day, I'll eat more almonds, or another cheese stick. Other things I eat regularly are Beans. 1/2 cup of refried beans with a T of grated cheese (6-7g) Lentils, 1/2 cup with sauteed onions (8-9g)

@@Babbs I've never really eaten meatloaf until I had my VSG...now I LOVE it! I never thought of making mashed cauliflower to go with it, but it sounds perfect. Thanks for sharing!

@@LisaMergs Lentils with arugula...that's heaven to me! The bruschetta...that's in a jar, right? I'm going to make this for a party we're having next weekend

I make a warm salad out of red quinoa, a small amount of butternut squash (or sweet potatoes), caramelized onions and chicken thighs. A little olive oil and balsamic vinegar makes it moist and gives a little tang. Now that I'm off meat I make it with chunks of goat cheese, instead of chicken. I just add them at the very end so they don't completely melt into the dish. Lentils have been a family favorite for years, so I use them instead of the quinoa sometimes...I like the tiny dark green Du Puy lentils because they hold up better and don't turn to mush. High Protein and easy to digest, I love them! When I use lentils I like to add some roasted garlic to the dish, too.

@@Butterflywarrior I HATED Isopure unflavored, it was disgusting. I use GENEPRO, but I'm going to keep the one you use in mind just in case Genepro becomes intolerable as well.

@@TheCurvyJones **Mushy, chewed up corn chips won't rip out titanium staples, so stop telling people that alarmist crap. The people that might pop a staple are few and far between. We're not sewn up with bubble gum and fishing twine. I really hate to see people trying to scare new patients into compliance. It simply does not work this way. ** It's hardly a scare tactic to remind people that you absolutely can cause damage with ANY food that you eat too soon. It doesn't matter what the stomach is closed with if you put too much strain on a fresh suture line too soon. @@girl10029 The biggest concern about your staple line isn't as much from sharp-edged foods, it's from the action that your stomach has to take to digest ANY solid foods. The stomach squeezes and churns solids in order to mechanically prepare them for enzymatic breakdown...and 3 weeks after the surgery we've had, we're short on enzymes so our stomachs have to do even MORE mechanical work. The squeezing and churning moves in waves through your stomach's muscles and that's where the potential for damage comes. Those muscles, as they contract, pull against the staple line. Most of the time, nothing serious will happen a few weeks out, but if you had a weakness along that line, or if there was a section where the staple line wasn't PERFECTLY aligned, you could have a problem. The biggest concern is very early, like people you see who eat meat or other hard to digest foods in the first week. Babbs is just concerned about you and your health...everyone here wants to see you succeed. Good luck!

@@girl10029 I'm wondering if you're getting enough Protein? Are you feeling hunger or just eating out of habit? I was on a PPI (proton pump inhibitor) for the first 6 weeks and keeping my stomach acid way down really helped me not have any feelings of hunger from my stomach. The head hunger is a WHOLE 'nother thing and you can only manage it with sheer willpower. About not feeling full, you won't feel as much restriction until you're on more dense Proteins like meat. You need to weigh and measure all your food, record what you're eating and drinking and get yourself on track. The first 6 months or so are the time you'll lose weight the fastest, don't screw up and waste that time by eating corn chips You were strong enough and determined enough to have the surgery, don't fail yourself now, right?? Good luck, and no more corn chips!

@@shelly.s The best thing to do is advance your diet only as quickly as your plan allows. On full liquids, you can have Protein shakes, I used the Premier Protein ready-to-drinks and also made my own with Isopure low-carb chocolate Protein powder. It was a little scary to go from Clear Liquids to full liquids, but you need to start advancing to full liquids when your doc wants you to. The goal is to get you back on a solid food diet so that you're getting all the protein you need. Take your time, sip slowly...I absentmindedly gulped about 8 oz of Water taking my meds when I was 5 days post-op, the pain was unreal and it came right back up. Try to keep that from happening Try the stuff on your full liquid list, just go easy and remember that you can always go back to clear liquids if none of it sits well. You only need protein and fluids right now. Good luck!!

@@busybeebug Oh, wow! Your face is so much slimmer! Yay!

I agree with @ocgirl15...I came home from the hospital nearly pain free and as I continued on my high Protein low carb diet, the pain continued to diminish. All of my inflammatory pain is completely gone and I attribute it to cleaning up my diet and avoiding sugars and flours.