Tired_Old_Man

Catholic Church Confession Communion Conformation Speaking of man-made church rules. When I was a child, I went to public school, but was released early every Wednesday for religious instruction at at the local Catholic school to learn my Catechism in order to receive the sacraments of Confession and Communion one year and then Confirmation the next year. Well, during my training, the church repealed the rules on eating meat on Friday. About a week before the new ruling had been decreed by the Pope, I had asked my instructional nun if a man went to Hell for eating a hot dog if he thought it was Thursday, but it was actually Friday and then he was hit and killed by a car before he could go to confession? She told me that accidentally eating meat on Friday was no excuse and of course he would go to Hell. So on the Wednesday after the Pope's issuance of the new rules, I asked my nun, if the man who went to Hell because he thought it was Thursday could be let out since it was no longer a sin to eat meat on Friday? I was sent to Purgatory on Earth for that question. :faint:

I, for one, am not bored by your personal stories. While you can not supply any links to verify the validity, they are what shaped you. The nature versus nurture debate will never end, but our experiences are as much a part of us as our DNA. Two people may have the same experience and may react totally opposite to the experience. Two sibling who are physically abused by their parents may grow up to be one that is a physical and verbal abuser of his children while the other spoils the children and will not even scold them. I tell many of the stories that shaped my life and I hope that my experiences can be helpful to others. Just as with putting my hand into a flame, I would hope by telling someone of the pain I felt, it will stop them from doing it. At one time, when I debated on website forums, I was meticulous at supplying links to verify my facts. But today, there are so many sites with political agendas, that it takes a lot of screening to know what site to link to. Many times I find extreme right-wing and extreme left-wing sites on a particular issue. I will not use either for a link, because the right-wing site does not make my point and the left-wing site will not be believed my the members I am posting for. Middle of the road sites or sites which give unbiased detail are hard to find very often. So please continue with your personal stories. I enjoy them. Plus, I do not want to be the only one doing it.

I don't actually find her attractive. My first biological response is to look, but as much as her big breasts are an attraction, their disproportionate size destroys the appeal very quickly. If she was running, I might change my mind for a few moments, but only for a few, well maybe 5. :clap2:

I had the PB & PAIN problem from my second fill on. Eat slow and chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew, chew. Take small sized portions into your mouth. I can not tell you which foods to avoid because many of us have foods that we can not tolerate that other members say that they have no problem with. I have never had a problem with scrambled eggs and cheese. But untoasted white bread is dangerous and a bagal is a living hell. There are many threads at LBT in which members have discussed which foods to eat. This may turn into one.

Obviously I do not call "My vagina" by any euphemistic pet name and if you think I am going to tell you what I nick-named my wife's...ain't going to happen. But I thought a funny story might allow me to participate in this thread (again). My wife and I did not believe in giving bodily functions and body parts euphemistic names as our son grew from infant to toddler to young child. We told him his male member was a penis, which he had a hard time at first pronouncing. One day, I was urinating in the toilet and in he came. He was barely able to clear the bowl (it is a good thing that I always raise the seat) and he said proudly, "Daddy, you have peanuts. Uncle Bobby, he has peanuts. I have peanuts, too." I responded affirmatively while trying to hold back the laughter and urinate straight into the bowl simultaneously and then he continued, "But Mommy has no peanuts, she just has hair." Later that day, he came to me and asked why I and my brother Bobby (who has just returned from military service and was living with us until he could find his own place) had peanuts and hair, while he only had peanuts, but Mommy had only hair. I explained to him that Mommy had a vagina in that hair. It is like a penis, but it is what a woman has instead of a penis was my basic explanation. About a month later, he came in from playing outside with slightly older children and asked me, what is the thing that Mommy has in her hair. I explained that it was called a vagina. He said the older kids had laughed at him for saying that word. I repeated myself and tried to reinforce the word and then as he turned away to leave he said, "Oh well, it's only pussy".

Sorry to take so long getting back to you. I had black streaks in my feces and a test revealed blood, so they did sigmoidoscopy first and then a colonoscopy a week later. Because they found and removed three pre-cancerous polyps, I had to have another colonoscopy 3 months later, then 6 months later, then 6 months and then a year later and another year after that. After 5 cleans, we went to the more normal 5 year spreads. As far as I know, 50 is the normal start age recommended by most doctors.

When Jesse Jackson ran for president, the news stories were always "Black Candidate comes in Third in Primary" or Black Candidate this or that. There was a lot more fuss made about JFK being Roman Catholic than John Kerry being Roman Catholic, so maybe times are a changing. I notice that less is being said about Condoleezza Rice being Black than about Jesse Jackson. Maybe things are getting better. Maybe a Black Conservative is more acceptable to the US voting public than a Liberal Black candidate. Maybe even a Black Female Conservative is more acceptable to the US voting public than a Liberal Black Male candidate. But then again, Black Females have never been as threatening to whites as Black males. Whites traditionally have been rather fond of Negresses.

As I mentioned in earlier posts, my family is split between Roman Catholic and Pentecostal. I was brought up by a mildly Catholic mother and fervently Pentecostal grandparents. Though slightly more of my family is Catholic, none of them have problems with the use of birth control or make a big fuss about the abortion debate. Abortion is one of the lower priority issues in their voter decision making. However, many of my Pentecostal family members wear as a badge of courage the number of times that they have been arrested for blocking "abortion clinics" or "abortion mills". Of course many of the so-called "abortion clinics" are "Planned Parenthood" facilities which provide many more services other than providing abortions. When I mentioned that, they have told me that birth control is also evil. Their basic philosophy is simple. God said, "Be fruitful and multiply" and the Ten Commandments says "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery", so there is not reason or need for birth control. “Abstinence only until marriage” is the only way in their book and anyone who gets pregnant must accept the responsibility. When I asked them about the caring, feeding and clothing of the child and shelter for the child, they just replied that it is the mother's responsibility. She had sex. She has to pay the price. There are many websites that provide this type of information. Sites such as these often give slanted information on "Birth Control Information" for ProLife Christians and other sites attack condoms. The BuSh administration has fought the distribution condoms in AIDS torn Africa and even Laura has made speeches in Africa recommending the abstinence-only-until-marriage program. I have also heard people like Ralph Reed and other people who are leaders in the ProLife movement discuss contraceptives on TV and they are equally proud of their stand against abortion and contraceptives. “Abstinence only until marriage” is the only way according to them, but they can not see that this “Just say NO” policy is as doomed to failure as the parallel anti-drug policy promoted by Nancy Reagan, 20 years ago. Victims of these twin policies mean nothing to these people who's agenda comes before the health needs of the proletariat.

FAMILY Three sisters ages 92, 94, and 96 live in a house together. One night the 96-year-old draws a bath. She puts her foot in and pauses. She yells to the other sisters, "Was I getting in or out of the bathtub?" The 94 year old yells back, "I don't know. I'll come up and see." She starts up the stairs and pauses. Then she yells to her 92-year-old sister sitting at the kitchen table having tea and listening to her sisters. She shakes her head and says, "I sure hope I never get that forgetful," as she knocked on her wooden table for good measure. She then yells, "I'll come up and help both of you as soon as I see who's knocking at the door." _______________________________________________ "I CAN HEAR JUST FINE!" Three retirees, each with a hearing loss, were playing golf one fine March day. One remarked to the other, "Windy, isn't it?" "No," the second man replied, "it's Thursday." And the third man chimed in, "So am I. Let's have a beer." __________________________________________ WHAT A CHOICE A little old lady was running up and down the halls in the nursing home. As she walked, she would flip up the hem of her nightgown and say, "Supersex." She walked up to an elderly man in a wheelchair. Flipping her gown at him, she said, "Supersex." He sat silently for a moment or two and finally answered, "I'll take the Soup." ____________________________________________ OLD FRIENDS Two elderly ladies had been friends for many decades. Over the years, they had shared all kinds of activities and adventures. Lately, their activities had been limited to meeting a few times a week to play cards. One day, they were playing cards when one looked at the other and said, "Now don't get mad at me. I know we've been friends for a long time, but I just can't think of your name! I've thought and thought, but I can't remember it. Please tell me what your name is." Her friend glared at her. For at least three minutes she just sat and glared at her. Finally she said, "How soon do you need to know?" ______________________________________ SENIOR DRIVING As a senior citizen was driving down the freeway, his car phone rang. Answering, he heard his wife's voice urgently warning him, "Herman, I just heard on the news that there's a car going the wrong way on Interstate 77. Please be careful!" "Hell," said Herman, "It's not just one car. It's hundreds of them!" _________________ DRIVING Two elderly women were out driving in a large car, both could barely see over the dashboard. As they were cruising along, they came to an intersection. The stoplight was red, but they just went on through. The woman in the passenger seat thought to herself "I must be losing it I could have sworn we just went through a red light." After a few more minutes, they came to another intersection and the light was red again. Again, they went right through. The woman in the passenger seat was almost sure that the light had been red but was really concerned that she was losing it! She was getting nervous. At the next intersection, sure enough, the light was red and they went on through. So, she turned to the other woman and said, "Mildred, do you know that we just ran through three red lights in a row? You could have killed us both!" Mildred turned to her and said, "Crap, am I driving?" ______________________________________________________ An elderly Floridian called 911 on her cell phone to report that her car has been broken into. She is hysterical as she explains her situation to the dispatcher: "They've stolen the stereo, the steering wheel, the brake pedal and even the accelerator!" she cried The dispatcher say, "Stay calm, Ma'am, an officer is on the way." A few minutes later, the officer radios in. "Disregard.", He says. "She got in the back-seat by mistake." TELL ME THIS WON'T HAPPEN TO US, PLEASE!!!! :help:

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You must have been living in a parallel universe, because things like that don't happen here.

If she had wanted to have all her teeth pulled, she could have had them taken out. I read where some women are having their breasts removed to prevent possible breast cancer. But she can not have her tubes tied? Who gave the doctors their halos?

Maybe true, but today, the US charged a man with treason for the first time in my life-time. He is a white man born in California who used to play in a heavy metal rock band, but who is now a member of Al-Quiada. What good is profiling going to do if this man wanted to board a plane? Do you remember Johnnie Walker Lind, the so-called American Taliban? What good is profiling going to do if a man like him wanted to board a plane? I watched a documentary recently and the Neo-Nazis who were the subject of the documentary all sang the praises of Al-Quiada, because both groups hate Jews and the US government. Maybe one or more of the Neo-Nazis will be willing to take down a plane. How will profiling stop them? Profiling is a very nasty idea. It assumes that one person because of their race or some other trait beyond their control is not as entitled to the same rights as another person with different traits. And the idea of profiling usually depends on other people who don't have the same traits as him to give up his rights. What determines who should be profiled. Race, religion, gender? Why not just throw out the whole constitution? When the Israelis started profiling, then women started carrying suicide bombs. How do we know that the person carrying a baby on board the plane is the parent of that baby? How do we know that the person carrying a baby on board the plane does not feel that baby's best chance for salvation is as a martyr? How do we know that an 85 year old man or woman doesn't want to redeem himself through martyrdom?

This not a complaint, but only posted to marvel at how forum threads may be a new kind of life-form. I started this thread 10 days ago to debunk an e-mail about Iraq, 911 and the Qur'an and today there is an intelligent discussion on abortion taking place. I could not have planned that to happen in a million years.

Well, what do you expect as firners? Yo ain't boned in the US of A, so you kin not expect to be treated as kin-folk. My wife's English relatives go through the same junk when they visit. And what makes in really bad is that tests have shown that getting weapons onboard aircraft is not much harder than pre-911.

911 had a strange effect on race in the USA. For a while, many US Blacks were glad that the rest of the people had someone else to pick on; Muslims and Middle-Eastern looking people. But then the US Blacks realized that many whites could not tell a light-skin Black from an Hispanic. Then as the immigration issue heated up, Blacks, Puerto Ricans and (Asian) Indians where mixed in with the Muslims, Middle-Easterner and Mexicans (and other South of the Border Illegals). The TSA which has many races and ethnic groups seems to "randomly select" a disproportionate number of non-whites. I have traveled about 10 times via air since 911 and I noticed that the people in line the security lines were well over 75% white, but the people pulled out for random (extra strength) screening were over 90% non-white. Now we are back to where it was before 911. Unless you are a fair skinned white, you don't have quite the same rights. I am not bitching. My mother was nice enough to make me white.

One of the reasons for the that disparity is that most municipalities fund schools by local property tax. High real estate value translates into higher school budgets. If you make the mistake of being born Black or being born poor, you get what you deserve.

Notice that I wrote I was not referring to you or any other member, but to organized groups and not even to all of them. That is why I used the word usually.

All Dr. Wansink had to do was go to a Golden Corral Buffet to watch and he could have saved years of research time.

By the way, I post on quite a few forums. When I am reading and writing here at LBT, I forget that you people are fat and mostly women. And I don't know what race, religion, age or national origin you are. I assume that would be true for most of the members who post here. Too bad we couldn't go through our REAL life that way.

I am always amazed to hear people of all races, religions and ethnic groups complaining that their group is getting the worst end of the stick. I also hear people from the majority complaining that some minority group is complaining about everything that happens to them. Yes, you can always find discrimination from A against B. And if A is the majority, B will probably complain a lot. But lets look into why. Could it be power? Could it be the desire to keep power? Could it be the desire to gain power? Could it be the desire to have power that has been denied? It is common knowledge that the amount of racial and ethnic strive is usually inversely proportional to the well being of the economy or at least to the fairness of the economy. Many people claim that the US economy is doing well, but just as many others, if not more, claim that the economy has benefited some at the expense of others. I hear that Blacks or Muslims are always ready to complain about being picked on or singled out. Could it be that they get stopped by police more often? A judge ruled that it was ok to search a Black man's duffel bag because it was a known drug area. Almost all Black neighborhoods are known drug areas. So, I guess that means than any Black man has no rights to a “presumption of innocence” or that police do not need “probable cause” to stop a Black man and conduct a search. Maybe, Blacks and Muslims watch the TV talk shows and they hear politicians debating whether profiling should be allowed. No one ever suggests stopping all white men when ever there is a serial murderer at large in any community or city, even though 99% of serial killers are white. But is ok to discuss profiling Blacks or Muslims for drugs and terrorism. The FBI estimates that over 85% of all cocaine users are white. The Wall Street area of Manhattan is renowned for cocaine use. But you don't see police stopping Wall Street Money Managers and asking them to open their attache cases. You don't see actors stopped at random in Hollywood because it is a known drug area. Is every demand by a Black and/or Muslim valid? Of course not. But people who are not from those groups are always quick to point out any demand by those groups as another example of how pushy those groups are. When the Christian Right political movement complains about their group being an endangered species, I almost fall out of my seat in disbelief. The people that the Christian Right political movement have helped get elected and who allegedly share their views control the White House, both “Houses of Congress” and the majority of the “Federal Bench”. Are they crying because they do not have everything? Being raised in neighborhoods where quite often I was the only white person in the playground, walking the street, riding the train, in a store, etc. and believe it or not, I was once the only white member of (what had been) an all Black semi-pro softball team. When they had arguments, they called each other racial names. The light ones picked on the dark ones and the dark ones had equally mean things to say about the lighter ones. Most whites would not even know what many of the insults meant. But, when I worked on a job that was over 95% white, the whites made jokes based on ethnic or national origin. When I went to college, my freshman class had one non-white and there were only three non-whites in the school. Freshman year, during the three day orientation, the 50 members of my floor sat on the hallway floor getting to know each other. We played a game where the first guy said a euphemism for Black. The next guy had to say another one, if you repeated any that had already been said, you lost. They would get up to the high 20's. When I refused to play, they tried the same thing about Italians (because I am of Italian heritage). They only made it to about 8 or 9. Gays and Hispanics were also fodder for this game. In Belfast, Northern Ireland in the 1970's, the Catholics and the Protestants played the same game that the USA does with Blacks and whites. Irish men that I know told me that it wasn't about religion in Belfast, it was about economics. But isn't it the same thing in this country when it concerns Blacks and whites I asked? “No! It's about uppity Niggers.”

As a man who has not and can not ever have the personal choice to have an abortion, I want to state two opinions. Outlawing abortion will only make abortion illegal for the poor. The well-to-do will travel overseas for safe abortions or use their money to buy abortions from competent doctors without any medical records available for prosecution. The same groups who oppose abortion in the USA, also usually oppose birth control and sex education that teaches responsible sex. These groups believe that sex can be controlled by teaching abstinence, although through out history, sex has never been curtailed by either law, schools or the church.

Right there is the out for allowing abortions. "For everything that is shaped, and his received a soul from God, if slain, it shall be avenged, as being unjustly destroyed." In this or another thread, I contended that a God (who is as intelligent and "all-knowing" as is made out to be by the fervent believers), would not place a soul in a fetus if he knew it was going to be aborted. And of course God knows it. He knows everything; past present and future.

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