Tired_Old_Man

If you really want the truth, I believe FOX has a website with all the Fair and Balanced facts for 'most any topic.

We will let you women control your own lives and bodies when we are good and ready to.

Re: Clinton and Monica; The Supreme Court ruled that Paula Jones' lawsuit could take place while Clinton was still in office because they said it would not be too much of a distraction. The Supreme court should share the blame for 911 for allowing the president to be crippled by controversy while still on office. And for those embarrassed by the Clinton/Monica scandal, which party insisted that the president testify with TV cameras present? Thanks to the puritan Republicans, the most blatant sexual content ever heard on TV was aired.

Dear Gadgetlady, since you made reference to hotel rooms which I talked about in the post just prior to yours, I wonder if the "Don't put words in my mouth" statement id directed towards me. If it is, please be assured that I was not thinking of either you, any other LBT board member or any other person in the world as I wrote my last post. If it is just a coicidence that you mentioned some of what I had just wrote about, but you were not writing to me, well as Gilda Radna used to say, "Never mind".

HE also says that eating a Ham & cheese sandwich is an abomination. Many people are luckier than I am. I only talk to God or Jesus, depending on who I want to pray to. When I was a Roman Catholic, I used to pray to The Virgin Mary, Saint Christopher, etc. But the lucky people are the ones that Jesus talks back to. I guess He decided that I was not good enough to enter his Kingdom, so he doesn't talk to me. Many people hear Jesus talking in their head. One claims to have heard Jesus say: "Invade Iraq, don't read your father's book on why you shouldn't invade Iraq, our mission is accomplished in Iraq, don't cut and run, but do cut food stamp programs and cut Medicaid programs, don't let anyone on death row off because we are both positive they are guilty, give the money changers; I mean the richest Americans tax cuts while the middle-class Christians go without medical coverage, persecute gays for political advantage and protect those little 16 cell embryos in petri dishes, for they are more precious that people who breath air..." It is wonderful to know that you are always right because you hear Jesus talking in your head.

Or the Republicans can win the next election, increase their majority in congress, pass a constitutional amendment against gay marriage and then states can start arresting gay couples who come here as tourists from Canada, Belgium, the Netherlands and Spain. Some states (Blue ones, I'm sure) will allow them to book hotel rooms with single beds, but some other states may arrest these freaks and put them in striped suits in order to fix their state highways.

This is a poem from the 1930's, I would like to update it. When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. Here is the 21st Century version: When the NSA came for the Liberals, You remained silent; You were not a Liberal. When they locked up the Democrats, You remained silent; You were not a Democrat. When they came for the Muslims, You did not speak out; You were not a Muslim. When they came for you, there was no one left to speak out. There should be one more Stanza: When the Government confiscated the voting machines No one cried at all, because we now had a king. Long live the king!!

I don't doubt that the NSA is monitoring my internet activity and those that applaud that attack on my First amendment's rights are as guilty as the German people of the 1930's were for allowing their motherland to be destroyed in the name of defense, family and Christianity. I have broken no laws, but I have made my voice heard. Those that truly defend freedom and what this country stood for before BuSh let Al-Quaida defeat us on 911 will defend my right to say and write what I think is correct. Yes, Al-Quaida defeated us on 911, because from that day on we starting giving away our freedoms and rights. And an American without freedom is a conquered man. America without freedom is a conquered nation.

BuSh keeps saying we will not leave Iraq until the Mission is accomplished. How is BuSh defining "Mission Accomplished" this time? As soon as the US Military pulls out of Iraq, there will be all out war. The elected leader of Iraq or a military coup's leader will declare marshal law and a new Saddam Hussein will have been reincarnated. The only difference will be that the New and Improved Saddam Hussein will have 65% of the population of Iraq supporting him (as compared with the 20% the old Saddam Had) and the New and Improved Saddam will have Iran as an ally instead of as an enemy. It does not matter how long the US Military stays in Iraq. We can stay until 1000 more die or 2000 more die or 5000 more die. The result is inevitable. You can force a country to be what it is not. Iran was a Westernized country until it was overthrown by religious extremists who longed for the good old days. They were just like the religious extremists who live in the USA in the 21st Century and who also long for the good old days. BuSh will not lose the war in Iraq. He will lose 2000 more soldiers and marines protecting his pride. He is proud to be an American president and he will honor our military by allowing its members to die in battle. Sounds like a cross between Homer and the Klingons.

If anyone thinks it is treasonous to compare BuSh with Hitler, think about this: People being arrested with no charges being levied against them. People being arrested with no legal council allowed to them. People taken to far away camps for indefinite amounts of time. People taken to foreign countries for torture laden interrogations. Torture defined as causing death or organ failure. People allowed to be tortured to get confessions and and then allowing the tortured induced confessions to be used in a court against them. Phones being tapped with no court orders. E-mails intercepted without court order. Money transactions scrutinized without court order. Passing of the Patriot Act to destroy personal freedom. Countries invaded for our defense that had no means to attack us. Laws passed to remove the protection of Habeas Corpus. Starting a privatized army not under military control. About the only major difference is that the Reichstag didn't burn down by BuSh's orders. There are many websites that compare BuSh to Hitler. I don't have to read them, because I have two eyes and two ears of my own. Click Here Click Here Or Here Or Try Here Oh, the heck with it. Do a google yourself for Hitler comparison BuSh.

Teachers are not underpaid. Michal Jordan only made $305,000 per regular season basketball game. That is only as much as a teacher makes in about 8 years. Show me a teacher than can score 30 points a game. Michael Jordan only made about $8,000 for each shot he took whether the ball went in or not. :help: How can you say teachers are underpaid? :help: Grown men playing children's games deserve a lot more money than teachers who must go to school for years in order to learn how to teach and train our children. What's wrong with you people? :faint:

Is this what you are looking for: Excellent points. Most Republicans I know send their children to private schools, or graduated their now-grown children from them, and/or attended private schools themselves. There is absolutely no payoff to them or their peers by fixing/improving the public school system. Their families and friends and most of their supporters will derive zero benefit from the $$$ spent on public education. So tell me again why we should believe they care about our kids? Same thing with Medicaid. Republicans do not use Medicaid. They have the best health coverage available, because they can afford the premiums. My youngest son works for Haliburton. He is a white collar professional. His medical insurance for himself and his family is $360 per month. It's the same price for the employees who earn half what he does. Haliburton is one of the largest companies in the world. They can negotiate the very best (cheapest) rates for their employees' health insurance...better than American Airlines, or IBM or ANYONE. And they DO get great rates, but they contribute almost nothing to the cost. And I guess we all know which party Haliburton is aligned with. Unless you are a member of high-level, executive management, you can't really afford to be a Republican. You may think the GOP is saving you from those money-grubbing, lazy, good-for-nothing welfare mothers who are out to steal your money, but you are wrong. The Republican party takes care of its own - the very, very elite...the very, very, obscenely rich. They might throw you a bone once in a while, just to get your vote, but they are responsible for the shrinking middle class, and even the upper middle class. They are sending you DOWN, not helping you up. If the Republicans have their way, eventually there will be only two classes of Americans: the very rich, and those who serve them.

George W. BuSh is not from Texas. He was born in Connecticut. Barbara Bush was born in NY. George H.W. Bush was born in Massachusetts.

Why should Clinton have left office after being impeached. Impeachment just means that he has lost his protection against being tried in the Senate. He was tried and not removed from office. Clinton never should have used the White House to cheat on his wife and Clinton should not have cheated on his wife no matter where it took place. He deserved to be embarrassed. BuSh sent 2700 American serviceman to their death for nothing. BuSh will never leave Iraq until his term is up. BuSh can not ever admit a mistake and he will not allow himself to be an American president who lost a war. It will be the job of whoever is elected president in 2008 to be an American president who lost a war. BuSh wears 911 as a badge of honer. What honer is there to have allowed a surprise attack on the Continental USA? He was warned in a CIA paper on August 6, 2001 that Al-Quaida was preparing an attack that involved hijacking planes. BuSh said about a year later that he figured that Al-Quaida would hijack planes and then make demands. "If I had any idea they were going to fly planes into buildings..." Hijacking and then make demands is ok? Al-Quaida hijacking planes and then making demands would have been ok? Al-Quaida hijacking planes and then making demands would have been ok?

If you have ever worked for a large company, then you know how BuSh got faulty intelligence. He asked questions like "are you sure Hussein doesn't have WMD?" and when told no, he said to look again. It became clear to all that worked for him that unless you gave him the news he wanted to hear, you were not going to be in the president's good graces for too long. At least two cabinet members and sub-cabinet member who left the White House after serving under both Democratic and Republican administrations have written books in which they tell about BuSh's obsession with Hussein. It was the first topic at the first BuSh cabinet meeting in February 2001 and the first question from BuSh even before the smoke cleared on 911 was "did Hussein do it?" and then "are you sure?", when told NO!!! Hitler also trampled on his generals when they tried to give him advice or bad news. One of the reason that Germany lost WW11 was that Hitler's general were afraid to give him honest answers. That is the same reason the USA will lose the war in Iraq; Advisers not wanting to displease their boss. 2700 USA military personal are dead because BuSh has a thick skull. The USA is on the verge of bankruptcy because BuSh didn't read his father's book. Osama Bin Laden is still free because BuSh sent 100,000 troops to the wrong country.

That would be nice except that if the Republican congress had not rubber-stamped all of BuSh's programs, we would not be in the mess that we are in now. As long as Republicans hold congress they will hold hands with BuSh. They have defeated the “checks and balances” idea built into our constitution. Proof? How many vetoes has BuSh made in 6 years? The Republican congress has played dirty. The rules are that every committee will have one more member of the majority party than of the minority party and that for a bill to be brought before the whole house, a majority of the committee must vote yes. The Republicans have killed bills in which there was a majority voting for it if there was not a majority of Republicans voting for it. If there are 6 Republicans and 5 Democrats on a committee, as long as the bill gets 6 votes it should move to the floor for discussion, But if 2 Republicans and 4 Democrats vote yes, which is the required 6 votes, the Republican committee chairman will still hold the bill out.

You know this thread caught my eye as soon as I signed on. :faint:

We have not forgotten 911, but apparently Mr. BuSh has, or how else do you explain why he has 150,000 troops in the wrong country? If BuSh had been president on December 7, 1941, he would have invaded China. And nobody has embarrassed this country more than BuSh has. Speak to people from Europe or almost any place else in the world.

Actually if the Democrats controlled both houses of congress, the white House and 80% of the Federal court system, I would vote for a Republican. Power is too corrupting. :help:

Can we get back to discussing the issues and not the membership of LBT? :help:

The Swiffer mop thing was just a stupid hoax. These E-mails are political attacks hidden as cute little "God Bless America and the Good Old Days" nostalgia.

Today, people have to know the USA Standard measurement system and the Metric system. Thank you Ronald, for keeping us in the dark ages.

A lot of people only believe in science when it comes to weapons. The USA has the best weapons in the world. Is it because we pray to Jesus better (or more) than other countries do or because of science? Some also believe in science when it comes to TV, PC's, Video Games, Medicine (well not always medicine) and communications.

That is a cute story and funny, BUT... It misses some important points. A service industry and a sales industry are very different. What would happen if we only paid for police when we needed them? Citizen: There is a robbery in progress at the 1st Bank on Main Street. Police Chief: But we only have 3 police officers on duty. Citizen: Call the ones who are due in on the next shift to come in now. Police Chief: Some are out of town and some are too drunk from partying last night. So the town probably has more police officers scheduled to work than they need for a normal day, just in case. Well, a 747 cost about a quarter of a million dollars. An airline would be crazy to schedule them to fly from point A to point B if it had no idea if they could fill them to a level near profitability far enough in advance. The can't send half of the plane from A to B and the other half from A to point C. The airline could buy two small planes, but the cost would be more than one 747 to buy and much more to operate, and the crew costs would be higher since a pilot would have to be trained to fly whichever plane was needed to fly that day, while the other planes sat on the ground. There is a reason for what seems like a maddening price structure. The airlines with the simplest price structure also have the simplest fleet structure and route structure. SouthWest and JetBlue have one model plane each, but if either attempts international flights, things will change. And so will their price structure.

I think the graphs that I posted above and the Link on the word "Sorry" pretty much shoot holes in the Texas is tops in teacher's salary theory.