Tired_Old_Man

Maybe if you were a God Loving Christian instead of a God fearing Christian you would love your neighbor as you love thyself as Jesus commanded. And when you get to Heaven if the Lord decides to bestow that on to you, will you still be heterosexual? Will you still be Conservative? Will I still be Liberal? Will you Love me?

Thanks again to all for your welcome comments and suggestions. Green, I am sorry to hear of your loses of both your brother and mother. Was he very young? Not that anyone is ever old enough to make their death acceptable, but I was just curious. My mother-in-law and Tina also both faced the lose of Tina's brother, and even though I was told that it was not my fault, I have never forgiven myself for his death. On July 12th, 1984, Tina's parents were spending the day with us. We lived about 4 miles apart (in Brooklyn) and Tina's father was showing the first signs of Alzheimer's, so we took him to get a new suit for his doctor's appointment (he was very old fashioned about looking spiffy for any formal occasion). We stopped at our house after we bought the suit and I suggested that my in-laws stay for a barbecue and that we pick up Tina's 45 year old brother, who was a paraplegic because of a childhood bout with meningitis, to eat with us. Tina's mother said that would be wonderful and that she would like to pick up some things at her house when we picked up the brother. Because I had a very small car, a 2 door Chevette, we decided that it would be easier if only mom and I went to pick up the brother, since both the 82 year old father and the brother had a difficult time getting in and out of the car. It is a good thing that we made that choice because on the way back to my home after picking up the brother, a truck ran a red light at 70 miles per hour and hit my car on the passenger side, knocking me out through the side door window. I would have died if I had not had my seat belt on. As it was, Tina's mother and brother both were taken to Kings County Hospital where the brother died after 3 surgeries on Friday the 13th. The car was so badly damaged, that the next day, I sat in the driver's seat (at the junkyard) and put my left arm through the driver's door window and my right arm through the passenger door window. Even though the traffic investigation team said that it was the most one sided accident they have ever investigated (blame wise), I have always said and felt that a driver is responsible for the lives of his passengers and I begged Tina's forgiveness. The only thing she did not forgive me for was that she was not able to grieve properly, because she was worried about my feelings of guilt and spent her grieving time consoling me. The truck driver was convicted of criminally negligent homicide, his license was suspended, he received a 5 year (suspended) prison term and 300 hours of community service working in an ER. He didn't learn his lesson. A few years later at the same corner as the accident, I was driving home with Tina in the car and I saw a truck from the same company that hit my car. I said to Tina, "that may be the truck driver" and sure enough, he jumped the light before it turned green to make a left turn almost hitting cars coming through the intersection. I saw the driver and it was "him". Some people never learn.

The Love of Our Lives

I was helping my son move some stuff with my pickup truck today and I took a break to call Tina just to tell her I love her and to see how she was doing. As soon as she answered the phone, I knew she was crying. I bugged her until she told me why. She was thinking about her mother and her condition, plus, last week, we were talking on the phone (3 way conversation) to an old friend (since the early 1960's), Nancy who has lost her mother early last year. When Tina was telling the woman about her mother's condition, the women said, maybe her passing might be a blessing. Tina said, "no, no, I don't want that" and our friend (a retired nurse) said that maybe Tina's mother might be suffering and with no hope of "real" recovery... After the phone call was over, Tina and I talked about the conversation at length, and Tina said she wasn't angry at Nancy and down deep she knows she is right, but that she can not face the thought of losing her mother. Today Tina told me over the phone that she was packing for her trip to visit her mother and while thinking about her mother, Nancy's remark hit her and she started crying just a few minutes before my call. We talked again and she said she was not angry at Nancy, but she doesn't understand how Nancy could have said that. Then later as we talked, she said she did understand, but thinking about it makes her cry.

When I was 17, I worked in an employee cafeteria in the Cotton Exchange Building near Wall Street in Downtown Manhattan. The cook would take the day-old bread and grind it up with chop-meat to make meat-loaf. One day, the exterminator had just finished spraying for roaches and he had left large puddles of insecticide all over the floor. A loaf of bread fell as the cook was putting it into the grinder/blender and it fell right into a large puddle of insecticide. You could see the bread loaf getting fatter and the puddle shrinking as the bread acted like a sponge soaking up the insecticide. The cook, never the less, pickup up the bread and threw it into the grinder/blender. When I asked her about it, she said there was not enough insecticide to hurt anyone in that large vat of meat and bread mixture. I never ate meat-loaf again in a restaurant again after that.

The Reverend Jerry Falwell says global warming is "Satan's attempt to redirect the church's primary focus" from evangelism to environmentalism. Falwell told his Baptist congregation in Lynchburg yesterday that "the jury is still out" on whether humans are causing -- or could stop -- global warming.But he said some "naive Christian leaders" are being "duped" by arguments like those presented in former Vice President Al Gore's documentary "An Inconvenient Truth. Falwell says the documentary should have been titled "A Convenient Untruth." Falwell said the Bible teaches that God will maintain the Earth until Jesus returns, so Christians should be responsible environmentalists, but not what he calls ... quote ... "first-class nuts." From Jerry Falwell's March 5 sermon: FALWELL: Then there's the myth of global warming. Recently, 86 religious leaders, some of them evangelicals, signed an environmental document for the government, calling upon the government to stop all the carbon emissions and so forth. I mean just, they didn't mean, some of the guys are real good guys, just naïve. We found out last week that the study was funded by the Hewlett Foundation, which is the Number 1 funder of pro-abortion organizations in America. They give Planned Parenthood millions of dollars every year, and they got some of our guys to sign on. When they called and said, "Will you sign this?" I said, "No". Why? I said because I don't believe in global warming in the first place, and I don't believe we caused it, and I don't think the science supports it. And Number 2, I don't want to put my name on the same thing Ron Sider [president and founder of Evangelicals for Social Action] has his name on, and some of these other left-wing people, and that reminds me I'll preach Sunday on the myth of global warming. And a lot of my friends signed it, and now they're embarrassed about it. From Falwell's March 12 sermon: FALWELL: And then there's global warming. We're worried about everything melting, and our carbon emissions bringing the temperature up. The world is going to flood, and everybody's going to die. I remember in the 70's when those same people were saying we're in for global cooling. It was getting so cold. The fact is this whole thing is cyclical, and the scientists who are not on the payroll of the government to do these studies are saying the jury's still out -- there's no such evidence there. But there are many who want to break the economic back of America by making us sign the Kyoto protocols while China, India, and half the world have said they would not do it. Falwell also stated that Christians should not love creation, but should love the Creature.

We are always hungry. That is why we post on LBT.:faint::help:

I think we agree on a lot of things, but we often remember the "good battles" more than the agreements. It is like when I watch boxing matches on TV. I forget the boring ones, but remember the "good battles" forever.:clap2:

It is a good thing that I read the second reply first.

But how they handled the gloves before putting them on is very important, not just the wearing of the gloves. See my comment above about placing the gloves on the shelf before putting them on.. In a similar vein, Tina and I went into a cafeteria one time (during the in between lunch and dinner lull), where there is a sign that said that all servers must wear protective gloves while serving food. The cashier went to the restroom, so the food server, served the person in front of me, walked to the cash register, rung up the order, accepted the money and made change, before coming back to the serving table. I asked for a bowl of Soup (for me) and a sandwich for Tina. The server took the bread out of the hopper and placed in on the counter and proceeded to apply mayonnaise, at which point I said, "aren't you spreading germs to my wife's sandwich?" He informed me that he was wearing gloves as per regulations, but I said, "So what. Those gloves are now as dirty as your hands would have been if you were not wearing gloves." When he changed gloves, but proceeded to keep making the sandwich with the same bread he had started with, we left. He started yelling to us about what was he going to do with the bread. I restrained my natural impulse to suggest what he could do with the bread and left. Tina loves it when I stand up for our rights.

Was that the draft of your latest sermon? Beware of false prophets. Beware of those preaching the word of God for their interests, not yours. And most of all, beware of those that know too much, for only the Lord knoweth all things. -- Book of TOM v1-1

As hot as you may be, and yes, I do find many members of the group that was once called Oriental (when I was young) to be very beautiful, let's get back to the question of taste in using the words Oriental and Asian and the purpose of distinguishing the meaning of the words. Asia is a large continent. When I have used the word Oriental, I was referring to people from China, Japan, Singapore, Vietnam, Cambodia, both Korea's, Laos, Thailand. Asian would include all those countries, plus India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, many of the 'stans and countries that were part of the Soviet Union, etc. Question #1. Without getting too deep into analysis of teeth, genes, etc. Is there a term that will include the people from the first group of countries, while excluding the people from the second? Question #2. Is Oriental an insult, or is it just not the preferred "nom de jour"? Calling a Black person a Negro is not normally considered insulting, just dated. Calling a Black person an Afro-American or African-American is both not always accurate, nor is it consistent with Irish-American, Italian-American, Polish-American, Pakistani-American, etc. All of those groups would have to be called European-American and Asian-American to be consistent with either Afro-American or African-American. Continents and countries are not the same. Also as I gave an example of earlier, not all Blacks are Americans, so not all Blacks are Afro-American or African-American. So to follow up on question #2. Is there an inaccuracy or insult implied in "Oriental"? Some people have said that people of as group should be referred to as they want to be referred to, but I have met people who I had in the past referred to as Oriental who were annoyed and people who said that they would rather be referred to as Oriental than Asian, just as I have known people who want to be call Black and detest Afro-American and vice-versa. I find it almost amusing how some groups are singled out by one characteristic, while other groups are singled out by a different characteristic. Example, a coworker once told me that he saw a Jew, a Puerto Rican, an Italian, and a Black man walking down the street. He could have been talking about 2, 3 or 4 people. He identified one person by his religion, one by his ethnicity, one by his nationality and one by his race. Couldn't one person have been a Puerto Rican who was Black and was a member of a synagogue? Or couldn't the Italian have been Jewish? We sure can screw things up.

The bottom line is more important than your waist-line.

How about "penis crabs"?:faint:

I didn't vote in the poll, because neither choice fit my reasoning. The sister should not have the baby and the reasons are more than the chance of a bipolar offspring. The emotional health of both the surrogate sister and the child are tantamount for not having a child under these arrangements. NO CHILD!!

Thank you both, giveyouthemoon & Victoriana. I spoke to my minister after church, today and he gave me some required verbal support. My fellow church members also were very supportive. We each look after the other's emotional needs and try to share in both sorrows and joys. Human fellowship is so important, but so overlooked by most people. I want to thank everyone who has contributed support in this thread. Just writing about my problems with my wife's problems has been beneficial to both my wife and I. It has been my safety valve.

Or trying to cover their butts against law suits.

ASK!!:help:

To Bump you Up:clap2:

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When I was in the hospital, a nurse, an aid and a doctor each put their gloves down on the the shelf below the mirror above the sink before washing their hands, then dried their hands and put on the gloves before attempting to touch me. I refused to allow them to touch me until they washed again and then took new gloves out of the box. I told each of them, that they may have been protecting themselves, but they sure were not protecting me.

I had 2 dental implants put into my lower right quadrant last year. There is a 3 tooth crown across them. Insurance did not cover a penny, so it cost me almost $7,000, but well worth it. I had no teeth on the right lower side and big chucks of food were always going down my esophagus, cause me to jam up. That problem was solved thanks to the implants. I previously had 3 partials made, but due to an unusual saliva gland placement, they alway gave me problems, so I never wore them.

When she got up this morning, Tina apologized for her outburst yesterday. I understand the pressure and though I am no one's whipping boy, I was there as needed to act as Tina's safety valve. Tina was upset because her sister who lives 20 minutes (by subway) from their mother's nursing home, has not been been to the nursing home all week. The mother was moved from the hospital last Monday and no on has looked in on her except the brother who lives in New Jersey, but works in Brooklyn. Tina's mother has 15 adult grandchildren/great grandchildren who live within a hour of the nursing home, yet Tina has to fly 1400 miles to take care of her mother. Tina doesn't resent going to Brooklyn, but she can't live there. She has been to Brooklyn twice so far this year and Wednesday will be the third time. Tina was so disgusted at her sister's excuses for not visiting, that she clammed up and would not speak to me, until the pressure built so high that she exploded (at me).

Tina told me if I want to see her happy, then "stop wasting time on that computer". I guess the garden work and working on the car, paying some bills online and adjusting all the clocks and VCR's wasn't enough work for her today. :faint: See ya L8R!!

Thank You.