Aimee-Belle

@@provenzee As mentioned before on this thread I feel everyone's comments regarding sticking to plan and the reasons for it are totally reasonable. Regarding the support I would personally think appropriate on here is a non judgmental ear. I would never expect anyone to support something that goes off of course/plan but that doesn't mean you can't be supportive of how someone is feeling. Sorry to hear you had a not fun experience regarding the family party. Thankfully all the foods I am craving are perfectly healthy...I can't wait to be able to eat salad and vegetables in their normal form. It's not so much craving bad food that I was having a problem with more wanting to progress too quickly however this post is now so old it's not relevant to me as I'm on different stages but i'm sure your little insight may be helpful to someone else down the road.

@@Aimee-Belle what job?? what job? LOL LOL You said I am "here every day all day" yeah??? i am on disability retirement coming here helps me keep busy, off the streets and out of trouble!! (but i really do have another life, i think!!) i don't think i said anything in a nasty way in my earlier post like i said earier, i couldn't say shittt if i had my mouth full - yeachh most of "us" never claimed to have medical knowledge some people put a "disclosure" before there post most people here have no formal medical training they never said other wise there are many nurses here they know medical stuff - but many/most times not applicable to WLS you were given lots of good information repeated, said a lot but when the words are good - run with them lets all "kiss and make up" like the sleeve............. you be nice to it, and it will be nice to you kathy I wasn't referring to you regarding that but glad you find something to keep you occupied and off those streets bet you're a right trouble maker otherwise! I've tried several times to move on and back to topic, I've had some snippets of helpful advice and got my point across so all in all not bad

@@libby43 The post is 2 weeks old now. I ate some cheese and a strawberry at 1 week post op. I have since read quite a few threads and had some comments on here where people are eating soft foods at 1 week post op anyway and we have since had the discussion about how and why (in our opinions) people are given different eating regimes.

@@Cujucuyo It's not rude to state something that I feel, it was a valid point that not just on my posting but other people's that there are people here that are berating with their comments which is unnecessary. Whilst it may be foolish to try food too early, I find it hypocritical coming from a forum of people that need dramatic surgery because of their eating habits to berate someone BECAUSE of their eating habits. My mental struggle with food isn't going to go away overnight, and if I we all had stronger will powers we wouldn't need surgery anyway. I felt that people's comments were completely acceptable AND ONCE AGAIN by comment 3 I had stated how silly I was to try a food earlier than I should have. As @@scampbell33 put it she saw what I wrote as did everyone else and that really should have quite easily been end of the topic and the issue was not WHAT they write but HOW they write it. There are many people in this platform, many different personalities and perspectives all which are valid however there are also a lot of people on here that overpower other people just because they had surgery years ago rather than months or even days. That doesn't mean it's ok to not be empathetic or sensitive to people's struggles. Regarding your "You can lead a horse to Water..." comment it isn't really relevant here. I am nearly 3 weeks post op. I didn't have my brain removed I had my stomach removed. I am still learning how to do this thing. That doesn't come overnight for everyone. So yeah I've been lead to water but it'll take me as long as it takes me to drink.

@@scampbell33 thank you for the positive words it's really nice to hear some

@ Oh darling it takes waaaaaaaay more than some silly back and forths to stress me out. I work in the entertainment industry that's stress on a next level My eye roll was due to the fact the conversation was moved back to topic TWICE and yet the little digs from LadyLisptick still had to be made. AGAIN highlighting my original points. And they continue....*SEE ABOVE* I've emailed Admin to see how to remove my profile as I don't like to be present in forums or any platforms where people are continually goaded when just trying to move past that and continue positively. I think there are a few people on this site with waaaaaay too much time on their hands. But i guess that's how you become 'Host' right?

Yes? Oh wait. You are trying to bait me so you can call me a b!tch again? Sorry! Won't work. I don't think it's me trying to do the baiting here by the look of the comments...

@LadyLipstick "I have never preached my diet as gospel nor will I. I will, however, answer questions that seem much more general because I truly care about the health of various people here. If I didn't, I wouldn't be here 3 years post op, happily maintaining for more than 2, and being called names by those who have never really interacted with me. :D"

@Aussiegirl81 I think this is one of those classic cases of where things vary in different countries. Surgeons within the UK don't tend to vary techniques because they have a governing body - the NHS all which have strict guidelines. I was put in a room with 4 other people having the same surgery (Post op) as me where we was explained what would happen after surgery, and what foods we should be having and when. And we were all told the same thing regarding how long we have liquids, then puree's etc. and we all varied completely with regards to size as well as some of us had health complications such as diabetes and heart disease where as other didn't. It seems in the US they tailor the plan to the person where as here it's a broader brush.

I don't think there is an answer here just more aloud thinking I guess but an interesting topic. Yeah one of the options for my pre-op diet was a milk based diet but I didn't opt for that as not a huge milk fan. We are lucky in the UK in that we have only 3 NHS hospitals that specialise in Bariatric Surgery so the surgeons are the best in that field (UK ones I mean) as well as we have exercise programmes that we can join afterwards that are supervised by professional trainers and physiotherapists (which I'm yet to attend as only just past my 2 week resting period) it's interesting the different regimes were all give though.

@ I definitely agree I hate getting caught up in back and forths as it seems so petty and not what I came here to achieve however I also can't stand certain things and have to have my say if I think something is unjust. Getting back to the topic - I have noticed as stated in my other comment that although I strayed from my plan from my Doctor there is such a wide variation of information, restrictions, diet plans given to patients that all have the same surgery. So whilst 'testing' your sleeve isn't a great idea there are people out there being advised by reputable surgeons that they can have certain foods way earlier than others. We all go by the advice 'Stick to what your Doctor says' but if they are all saying different things is any particular one more right than others or are certain surgeons being overly cautious?

@@jennmonterrozo I beg to differ

@@proudgrammy again I stick by what I said about having an online presence because you're here every day all day doesn't make you 'fit for the job' I am sure there are a few host's or VIP's or whatever they are called on here but until they have a medical degree/counselling qualification/have been personally met and vetted by Bariatric Pal Experts then I will take everyone's advice with a pinch of salt. What I will point out is although yes my Doctor's here gave me certain advice there is a HUUUUGE variation in what people should eat and when in not only this country but all around the world. Some people are berating me for trying some foods too early and yet were told by a Doctor they could have 'solids' at the same time as I tried a slider food. So whilst I understand I should go by my Doctors advice there are Doctors give contrary advice to people that live just a few miles away from me. I have taken on board legitimate comments regarding reasons WHY having foods earlier than prescribed can be dangerous, some of which I didn't think/know about so I appreciate that.

@@LadyWarren - Thank you for your well wishes. The mental struggle is most definitely real and I've been doing well since my 'blip'. Wishing you a great recovery also you sound like you're doing wonderfully i'll take a leaf from your book!

@@Babbs - Firstly CLEARLY I didn't start this thread to start arguments. If you bothered to go to the beginning to read the comments prior to this point you would see by comment 3 I was saying how 'Silly I was to do something against Doctors orders'. It was the continual flow of comments after on MY thread on MY question that I then thought hold on I know I've done something silly but support is what I need, what I got instead was several comments one after the other ALL stating the same thing in what I deemed to be not overly supportive manner It has developed into something else entirely organically. @@LipstickLady - Your comments and tone is B*%chy I apologise for calling you that. To say you will mark that down to hormones and being Hangry is what we like to call 'passive aggressive' and again patronising. I am clearly not the only one to think that many people on here think they are WLS experts. However you are experts in YOUR weight loss journey. Not mine. And I'm pointing out something I've noticed which I am entitled to do and yet I'm being now deemed a martr. The words people used in their replies weren't rude, hence why I didn't comment before, it was the tone people use to reply to people asking for advice and support which was my issue not just in this thread but in others. There are those that show support and give sound advice in a polite and nice manner, they are able to articulate their response perfectly without making people feel like a pariah. Again your words like - 'Do you think that most of us have not faced the same mental struggles as you? Do you truly believe that no one but you has had cravings and the desire to eat just a little something off doctor's orders? Of course we have.' Doesn't support ANYONE it's again not horrible words but it's your tone which to me says 'We've all struggled but not caved, this is your fault'. - THAT is how your comments read. I stand by what I said that I came here because I was looking for support, but you've been here longer than me and therefore made a 'host' by commenting loads and having an online presence not *in my opinion* because you are qualified for that position.

@@LipstickLady Considering you have those shiney little 'stickers' classing you as a 'VIP' and 'Host' I think you are quite the...hmmm for lack of a better word bitch. I'm not great with words but 'nyteacher125' has put it just as I wanted to. This isn't just a physical battle it's a mental one. And getting my head around this is the biggest hurdle. Maybe you walked into surgery and came out a changed woman and have managed to do everything 'just as the doctor ordered' but guess what...not everyone is the same as you! I've spent a lifetime getting shit from people just because of my size, I didn't expect to come to a forum like this to get shit for something else. As I stated before quite openly I agree it was stupid to test my surgery, I wasn't going to rush off and start eating massive meals, and since getting 'advice' from here I haven't since. But I will stand up and say the blunt words aren't neccesary to get a point across. And my feelings aren't hurt in the slightest I was more thinking of the less confident people out there maybe skirting the forums and not confident to get involved and ask questions and how they may feel always reading the snarky comments from people like you.

AussieGirl81 I completely agree with everyone's advice and I'm not disputing that. But i'm noticing not just on this post but on other people's that are seeking advice or support that the comments they receive have a 'holier than thou' tone to them. I myself have commented on a similar post encouraging the person to not test their sleeve after I got some advice from people on here but I always explain how 'I understand it seems like we're ready to eat solids (using this as an example) sooner than we're meant to but...' or go in with advice from my own experience. But there seems to be a lot of blunt and frankly quite patronising replies from a lot of people on this site and I'm finding it not as supportive as I once thought it might be.

Firstly tell her to go f*%k herself. Unless this is affecting your work (and I don't mean with regards to the time you are taking off) then it has nothing to do with her. You can eat a tub of ice cream in front of her if you want. That's your decision to make! She doesn't know if you then go to the gym for 5 hours after work. She is seeing a small snippet of your day and judging you on it which is bullsh*t. She is 100000% jealous and is being defensive because she is bigger than you and probably feels like because you feel moved to making extreme steps towards losing weight and improving your health then it looks bad on her because she isn't. That of course isn't the case everyone's life/body is their own to do with as they please but I bet you that is what she is feeling like deep down. There is no other logic for her behaviour. And I highly doubt also that anyone else except her think like this. I am early on it my weight loss journey and I am fully prepared for the comments, potential loss of 'friends' etc. But so far everyone around me has been wonderfully supportive. But if and when this does happen I'm not taking any of it because like you said no one knows what it's like to be you and have struggled in the way that you personally have. My surgeon said something that really resonated with me which was that Doctors/Researchers are finding so many more reasons now why people struggle to lose weight or even gain weight so easily. It's no longer a simple case of just eat less and exercise more, things like your DNA and Genes come into play, chemical reactions, hormones so many things that people that are naturally slim DO NOT understand why us 'fat people' don't just do XYZ to lose weight. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THAT!

I'm noticing a common thread here which is fine, however it would be nice if people gave advice in a more sensitive and empathetic way. This surgery follows 29 years of eating how I liked, I consider myself to be an educated person but let's not all try and pretend like we're all saints here. I do my best 98% of the time but there are times I struggle and it would be nice to come here and feel supported not talked to like i'm 'insane' because I ate a bit of cheese. You can give advice and educate someone without sounding like you're talking to an idiot. Because I'm not, i'm trying to cope with a very big change just like everyone else here.

I have this too, I'm a few days shy of being 3 weeks so should still be on liquids but I have the odd 'soft food' but I've had this feeling with both liquid and soft food. I think it's trapped air, because for me after a little while the air sort of moves and then the food goes down slightly. Winding can sometimes help, I often ask my Mum to wind me like a baby with hard pats on the middle of my back. Otherwise walking around helps because it gets the air moving. It's so disheartening though cause I have come to terms with only ever being able to have a few bites of food but always been in pain when you eat is just awful. Some days it makes me just want to not bother eating but of course this isn't the answer.

i'm the same, 6 days post-op I tried some cheese and potato then felt bad so left a thread on here and everyone reminded me of the dangers. I definitely want solid food now but everyone reminded me there are consequences that may happen and i've come so far I don't want to ruin it. I made 2 batches of homemade soups as tins were getting boring and the new tastes made me feel much better about just having liquids