Fanny Adams

Hehe - seems like some can dish it but can't take it... It was meant as a little jab but it really wasn't meant to nasty - I thought it was funny and fitted the thread perfectly :crying:. Sorry, Froggi, but hey - you mooned me first, chica! Re the kink: Booked in to get it fixed on October 1st :rofl: It hasn't been giving me any trouble but the doc doesn't want to leave it like that forever. It hasn't even felt sore or bruised since I stopped poking at it every night, wondering what the hell it was - imagine that? LOL!

@MacMadame: Yeah I know this is R&R and it can be fun to get down and dirty with the bitchiness - hell, I belong to a forum where that is the sole entire aim of the place, and believe me that place can get nasty! But this thread still strikes me as incredibly hypocritical - all the things that people in here are accusing people in the DS/OH forum of being (and most of the accusations are true), are also exhibited by people in here, in spades. @Plain: Hehe - now I've got that stupid song stuck in my head, so I suppose that counts as instant karma, eh? @Froggi: It was meant as a friendly jab, not a thrust to the heart, so keep yer knickers on and don't get all het up about it, ok? :crying:

*sings* I know you like to think your... With me now? Hey, I thought it appropo for the thread :crying:

LOL! No worries, Caroline.

It is my youngest granddaughter's birthday next week and I have to admit, I do the doting grandmother thing and usually buy a big present. This year, I'm hiring a pony for the party (with her mother's permission, of course). Yeah I know, only spoiled brats get ponies on their birthdays but this is something I've always wanted to do. I'm really looking forward to it but I am pretty sure that some of the mums of the other kids there are going to be sending daggers my way, for inspiring their kids to ask for the same...oops :crying:

You know, I've clicked on several of the links to the DS pages on the OH forum and thought to myself "Wow, so many of them are judgemental, nasty, bitchy and self-righteous about the choice they made". Then I reread the posts in this thread and think, "Pot...kettle...black".

It's going to depend upon how much of your boobs were fat and how much actual breast tissue. If you can remember being thin at any time, your boobs will probably return to that size (although maybe not as perky). I've gone from a really tight 22E to an 18F (Aus sizes) and I'm still spilling out of the cups, although I probably need an F-long :whatchutalkingabout I'm less than half way to goal and I'm figuring that at goal, I'll still be a 12F (our 12 = US 8). When I was young and skinny, I was a 12E but I think with all the extra skin in there, I'll still fill an F cup. Once that's done, all I'll need to do is have the boob lift, so my nipples don't keep getting stuck in my belly button :tt2:

Not to ignore the rest of what you said, because they were all good points, but I think you got to the heart of it with this statement. I think what I am feeling when I hear of friends successfully losing weight without the band, is that their efforts invalidate my choice to have the band. It's like they are saying "See? I can do it, so there's no reason why you couldn't have done this too!" I know that they are not saying that, but that nasty little voice in the back of my head is putting those words in their mouths. I guess it's just another manifestation of the insecurities that we all have deep inside. Also, I think it has a lot to do with mood :whatchutalkingabout. My comment about these thoughts being triggered by PMS weren't entirely inaccurate and I'm feeling much better about things now :tt2:.

I spoke with my insurance company about this recently and their comment was: "If the doctor states it as 'medically necessary' and assigns a Medicare number, they'll pay out on it. If not, you get nothing." It's a long way off still for me, but worth looking into now with my GP, to establish the history for 'medically necessary'.

Another Sandgroper here! I haven't had a problem with the early darkness but I don't work when I'm home in Perth (work away on a mine site), so I can get out during the day. I love walking on the crisp clear cold days but have to admit, I do it in the middle of the day, rather than early morning or evening when it is FREEZING! I guess we're all feeling the cold more as our fat blankets are melting away. That's an NSV in itself, as I was always too hot before and used to drive other people nuts by running the airconditioning flat out.

Oh wow! That's a big NSV!! Good for you!! You should feel very proud of yourself.

My turn! Wow it feels good to post pics I'm not ashamed of... (Sorry about the full screen pics but the attachment thingy kept giving me error messages Before @ 275lb: Today @ 215lb:

Why are you making an appointment for the psych, Sunwyse? I thought it was only our US friends that had to jump through that hoop for their insurance. I didn't know there were any insurance companies in Aus that were requiring that. Or are you just going for your own benefit, not because it's part of the requirement? If so, good for you, they are very useful and most of us have issues around food that could benefit from some professional advice.

Heheh - I guess so! I was reading the title of the thread and thinking "Interesting article? As interesting as "Why it's lighter outside in the daytime than at night" or "Why a diet of icecream and KFC makes you fat"" It just seems a no-brainer that running burns more calories than walking - because it takes so much more effort!! Which is probably why I don't do it, coz I'm a lazy sod :teeth_smile: *edits* Ok, this time I read the article and I guess the idea about equal calories is pretty prevalent out there. It doesn't make any sense to me though - I KNOW I work harder when I run (which I am still avoiding whenever possible, hehe) so it would never have occurred to me to think walking would burn the same.

Wicked! There's hope for me yet! Thanks, Chickie!

Congrats on your achievements Danni! Whoohoo! Way to go, girl!

Can I ask what medical grounds they gave for the TT? I think my GP would be cooperative but I'm not sure that I really have any grounds, other than cosmetic, but if there is anything that a slightly...let's say creative way of presenting the case might help, I'd like to know :teeth_smile:

Hi and welcome Ange. Don't worry too much about the surgery. Complications are really very rare. You have to remember that forums like this will not represent the true percentages as many successful people don't post and those with complications tend to gravitate here, so it is weighted to show a higher rate than it really is. I've had a lot of surgeries in my life and this was the easiest one by far. Just take it easy, follow the guidelines and you won't regret it. I know I haven't regretted it for a moment - best thing I ever did for myself.

"So next time someone says to you, Oh its great you like to run but you're wasting your time. Walking burns more fat." Huh?? I'm no athlete and have even been slacking off in the walking department, let alone run, but who the heck thinks walking burns more calories than running? I have to admit I was thinking "Gee, Jachut, that's a bit of a 'der freddy' statement, isn't it?" until I saw that line of yours. Obviously some people have said it to you but where on earth would they get that idea from?

My doctor didn't insist upon giving up but he highly recommended it. He explained it in terms of healing and recovery time. Smokers have diminished oxygen supplies in their blood because the carbon monoxide (amongst other things) is bonding with the haemoglobin, instead of oxygen. This makes healing slower and the chances of infections and skin necrosis on scar areas higher - all scary things. I couldn't face the idea of giving up entirely but I could cope with the thought of it being temporary. I used Patches for the two weeks leading up to the surgery and was genuinely surprised at how well they worked. I kept them up for 2 weeks after the surgery too, but have gradually slipped back into smoking. I haven't made the mental transition yet that says "I WANT to give up" so it's not happening long term, but I am also finding that I am smoking less now than before (about half). I also found that the patches really helped control the hunger pangs when on the pre-op diet and in the post-op phase. I have a hard time telling the difference between "I'm hungry" and "I want a cigarette", so having the patches also worked to kill some of the hunger pangs beforehand, and having the band is helping to kill some of the smoking cravings afterwards.

Well done for telling your story. I think that there is something cathartic about putting it out there, that does us good, no matter what our story is. I know it was one of the first titles that drew my eye when I came to this board last October, but it was months before I posted in this thread. I circled around it a lot and came in to start, only to chicken out and leave. I thought about my answer for a long time before I felt comfortable enough to respond, even though I was spouting off left, right and centre in other threads. It is an awesome question that, if taken seriously, cuts right to the heart of the matter and can be the inspiration for some deep reflections and self-insight.

Fabulous post, shinyhappymommy! It's good to see the positive stories coming back again. I think the positive/negative thing on the boards goes in waves but I much prefer the positive times! My story is much the same - losing slowly but steadily, ecstatic with my progress which is right on plan, really enjoying eating small solid well balanced meals without huge struggles with hunger, had great support from everyone around me, haven't regretted my choice for a moment! I can relate to your comment about not wanting to brag, too. Sometimes it feels like if you post about your successes, all you are doing for those who are struggling is rubbing their noses in it, so we refrain. But we need to remember that people are using this site to investigate their options and they want to hear the positives and the success stories too!

Well I don't have little kids, so I didn't have to face the problem of whether or not to pick them up every day, but I do have small grandchildren and I know I held off from doing that for a couple of weeks. When I wanted to cuddle, I would sit down and get them on my lap, rather than bend over and pick them up. Not sure if this is an option for you, but I think you should try to take it easy as far as you can. They say you can be back at work within a week, and if you are not doing a physically demanding job, that's probably true. However, it will take several weeks before you are FULLY healed, even if most of the pain and swelling has gone fairly quickly. I'd give myself the best possible chance to heal properly by taking it easy on anything that will stress the abdomen for at least 4 weeks or so. If that's not always possible, just be as careful as you can be and take things slowly.

Thanks for the input everyone. I'm really struggling with this, because I have never known myself to be petty and jealous like this before, but it does seem to be a problem now. I know that I really am happy for my friend, and happy for others when I hear about their losses, so I'm just slapping myself when I hear that nasty voice and telling it to go away. I hope it works soon, because I really don't like this new feature of mine. To be completely honest, it's not just with my friend. It's happening anywhere I hear about weightloss. I read other people's tickers and if they've lost more than me, I'm jealous, if they've lost less, I feel smug. If someone has started their journey from a lower scale point than I'm currently at, I think "Bitch, don't tell me how fat and disgusting you felt when you started! I'm celebrating just getting to that point and I think I look good!". These are horrible, nasty thoughts and I'm really not like that!! I don't get it at all and I wish it would stop! *slaps self* *sighs* Maybe I'm just PMSing and really letting it get to me at the moment *checks calendar* I have heard that weight loss releases lots of hormones back into your system and can make you really moody for a while - maybe that's what it is? If so, I hope my body adjusts itself soon because I don't like this. *edits* Removed a bit that was just unnecessary and might upset others, which I didn't want to happen because I know I didn't mean it. :teeth_smile: