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Success 2013, what does this mean? 5. Do a carb refeed. (Every 4 or 5 days) 4 sets x 15 sets per body part to deplete glycogen stores. Then increase carbs with fast burning carbs gonna start with 100 grams.

I'm truly interested in the carb "refeed" thingy. I'm freaked totally out about carbs because all the surgeon, nut, etc tell you is no/low carb. I went on a carb binge for a few months and regained about 13 lbs. Now low carbing and NOT losing much so interested in HOW I should and WHAT i should do to "reset" or something to that effect. Because low carb is not producing much weight loss and I'm sure a lot is the amount of sodium that I am imbibing through processed foods (meats etc) Anybody else out there have info on how to really do it right?

what exactly did you do?

wow! that pic of the corset thingy is amazing! Are you having it done locally? Is anything covered by insurance?

It's not stretched. The swelling is/has gone down and you SHOULD be able to eat more. If you are hungry all the time, it could be "silent" acid reflux. Do you take anything for stomach acid? Lots of people have said that they are much hungrier without their medication. Even an OTC cheap one works. Also, if you are eating a lot more "slider" foods - you CAN and WILL eat a LOT more and more often! Steer clear of those! Try an exercise - eat part of a chicken breast first, protein only, and then veggies - no drinking and see how "full" you get and how quickly. I think you will find you still have lots of restriction. It may just be that you need to eat several times a day, with smaller amounts and add an acid reducer to your regimen. Good luck!

i'm not addicted. Today i am HUNGRY!!! No matter what I stuff down my throat, it doesnt make me LESS hungry. Now granted, this is coming off of a "sugar" high since I overindulged over the weekend on kettle corn, donuts, etc (Local community fair/event!) Seriously!!! Protein in, lots of it, and it's not helping! Yep, you say, "you did that to yourself!" And yep, I did, but BOY, am I ravenously hungry. Have done well and refrained from junk today NSV to me!

Trust me! I began eating from the O Group mid year two. You DON'T want to do that! Lol. It led to the S group, sugar, sugar and sugar. Now I've regained some weight and worked hard to low carb it for a while. Fell off the wagon this weekend for some reasons but will be back on track tomorrow. I WISH I was one of those "can't stop losing" people. Lol

If you can tolerate cucumbers, I buy the small gormet cukes and the 100 cal pkgs of Wholly Guacamole ( I actually like the Walmart brand better Marketside) slice the cukes very think and use like chips for the guac. It's awesome!

Okay, what did we used to call those "non pounds loss" happy things that happened to us? Was it NSV(non sleeve victory)? can't remember, but I've had SEVERAL today! We had a focus group meeting in my office of several Financial Advisors from around the state that I have worked with over the past many years but whom many have not seen me in a couple/several years. I had not one, not two but at least three of them single me out over the course of the 4 hour meeting and tell me how "wonderful" I looked and how much had I lost and how long, etc? FIRST, it made me realize - You know what? I HAVE accomplished a lot and I AM almost three years out! When I told one who asked when did you lose it, "Three years!" And it HIT ME! It's been three years!!! THREE YEARS!!! That made me feel really good! Just to have the affirmation again of a "job well done" and a huge accomplishment meant a great deal to me today. Not bragging, simply stating that perhaps we need to "lighten up" on ourselves some and see what others see. A real change in who we are and what we have accomplished. It surely opened my eyes today. And then... I went and ate 3, YES THREE, donuts. Oh well, its back to low carb.. )) We've got this, Pals!!!!!!

Okay, what did we used to call those "non pounds loss" happy things that happened to us? Was it NSV(non sleeve victory)? can't remember, but I've had SEVERAL today! We had a focus group meeting in my office of several Financial Advisors from around the state that I have worked with over the past many years but whom many have not seen me in a couple/several years. I had not one, not two but at least three of them single me out over the course of the 4 hour meeting and tell me how "wonderful" I looked and how much had I lost and how long, etc? FIRST, it made me realize - You know what? I HAVE accomplished a lot and I AM almost three years out! When I told one who asked when did you lose it, "Three years!" And it HIT ME! It's been three years!!! THREE YEARS!!! That made me feel really good! Just to have the affirmation again of a "job well done" and a huge accomplishment meant a great deal to me today. Not bragging, simply stating that perhaps we need to "lighten up" on ourselves some and see what others see. A real change in who we are and what we have accomplished. It surely opened my eyes today. And then... I went and ate 3, YES THREE, donuts. Oh well, its back to low carb.. )) We've got this, Pals!!!!!!

I too am also at 3 yr surgiversary. I have gained about 13 lbs over the past year/year and a half. I've tried "reset" - I'm not sure it exists. Really. You can get the sugar/carb thing under control by "reset" and back to a normal eating pattern but as to the old "lose, lose, lose" matra I had and quickly! It ain't there. (in southern slang!) Lol Simply put, from what I've researched, we need to eat less calories than a person who hasn't lost over 10% of their total body weight and didn't ever really yo yo diet (strictly speaking - normal) to MAINTAIN at the same weight as they do. Example, 1650 calories for me it shows with some exercise should allow me to maintain but it doesnt. Reality is more like 1300 or so. So we are going to have to get our heads wrapped around the fact that it is a LIFETIME GOAL and not a quick fix! As we were told, it's a TOOL. And I've discovered that for myself! lol Good luck! You are back on track and that's what counts.

I feel ALL of your pain! I think we tend to be extra hard on ourselves simply from the fact that we DID have WLS. My daughter, who has never been overweight, said, "Geez, Mom, give yourself a break and enjoy life! You look great! Lighten up!" I think maybe as M2G and I have said before the metabolically altered body (and it IS altered) makes it extremely difficult for the long haul if we ever allow ourselves to regain because truthfully, we DO have to eat less calories than others to simply maintain where we are, much less lose. I LIKE THAT UK chart! But, um, I would be allowed up to 196 at my height and age! lol That ISN'T even entering into my subconcsious! ha!

Okay, now. I'm trying to be really good (NOW) and drop the regain pounds (about 13). Low carb, low carb, low carb and protein protein protein but it doesn't seem to really want to go away again! lol If I deviate at all from low carb, I immediately put lbs back on. Also, I'd like to say that protein staves off my hunger but I don't think in reality it does. I can eat a boiled egg, cheese, etc and STILL want to eat. Doing much better, though, about WHAT I am allowing in my mouth.

Globetrotter, I am a testimony to low carb diet being detrimental I believe. At 3 years out been trying to lost some regain with low carb. Religiously for about two months. Lost about 6-7 lbs. last 3 days got really tired of it and ate normal including so sweets. But not over indulged. Guess what? First day up 2 lbs. next day up two more. Very disheartening to say the least. Yes I'm sure some fluid but really, REALLY??? Not sure what to do at this point to do food wise to be able to lose and do it for long haul. Been in a good place mentally to start back but boy, evidently now my body is really addicted to sugar and low carb gets really really really tiresome.

Oh, Girls, I got very concerned after reading a thread on another website. The person sounded just like us and was 4 years out telling she had regained 60 pounds!!!! Then others started talking about weight gain too 50+ lbs. then I realized it was a RNY forum. but.... Yikes!

I agree with M2G, Coops, the food will most likely take care of itself at some point later. When you don't feel well nothing really tastes good anyway. So glad you are on the way "up!" I feel sure 150 is in your near future. ???? Now as for me! Well... Been eating well. Trying to watch a total calorie count somewhat as well as carbs. Sometimes the two don't work well together. Lol But have managed to keep what I've lost again off but it seems any little thing affects the scale. Sigh. Hope everyone has a great weekend. Here's to all of the gang!!!!

Here's an excellent article for us all from Obesity Help newsletter. Just what we have been talking about. We're okay! We CAN do this!!! http://www.obesityhelp.com/articles/bariatric-regain/

Sorry, Swizzly, didn't see your ticker

Swizzle, how much have you lost and how long did it take you?

Well, reading that at 6 years I would be up approximately 50lbs (53% EWL) according to averages is NOT an option for me. So gotta get this remaining regain off and learn how to maintain. Per the article referenced.

Well, I am happy to say that I have been able to whittle down about 7 lbs as of this morning. From my almost 20 lb Regina also, M2G. But it has been by extreme LowCarb and vigilance. I admit, though, I am not an exerciser. I do walk. Some. . I know I should get physically better fit but, honestly, I am so tired at times after work that the thought of it just doesn't feel worth it yeah, I know, I'd feel better. Lol. I feel really good with my Jammie's on in my comfy chair or lying on the couch! Ha! Think I might be battling a little depression also. Going to read the blog. Sounds interesting. As to grehlin, I think the jury is out on that. Some thi gs you read say it is not as reduced as first thought. I have wondered why if at the beginning you're to really hungry sometimes at all and as time goes on, hunger increases. Restriction is still strong IFyou eat correctly and not junk. I do think as the articles/nut said metabolism is altered. Gonna keep working it. I'm trying to figure out HOW once I re lose my gain what I can do LONG TERM to hold it! I know they have said that for your body to hold a new set point it must be maintained for a long period of time. Hopefully, that will be true for me. Anybody know what the longest timeframe we have on VSG is and how they have maintained? I'm coming up on 3 yrs 6-10. Happy weekend to all!!!!

Well, Girls, it is definitely eye opening. I, like both of you, don't really see how I can eat much LESS calories or protein and still be able to walk upright! Lol. And Feedyoureye, it is hard to believe that only 1350 calories AND exercise won't get the weight loss it should. That's why I am concerned for the long haul. Reading about having to be rigidly strict for the rest of your life is not appealing to me at all! I love the fact that at 3 years out I have been able to somewhat maintain but sure want to get back down to my original goal weight and maintain. Coops, if you find anything out about the leptin reset let is know. Well, since I had a dinner tonight with lasagna and bread along with homemade pie I'm side the scale will reflect tomorrow morning. ????Maybe ill try the Fastdiet. A month of Atkins doesn't seem to be much better although I think I have lost some inches because clothes feel looser even if the scales don't quite reflect what I would like them to be.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1105816 Link to New England Journal of Medicine homrone change article.

Evidently, because they are based on normal bodies and our metabolism has been altered. It really makes sense to me now. I kept thinking, "I've been stringently doing Atkins for a month and only 3-4 lbs down." Whereas before, I would be down probably 15 or more lbs. Given that I could STILL stand to lose another twenty pounds and be at a good level, it seemed strange to me WHY my body wasn't cooperating as before. So, I guess Coops, it's either go lower in calories and carbs to GET there and try to maintain long enough to make our bodies respond.