Pippy1973

i am not sure of the answer to this. I just wanted to wish you the best of luck with your procedures.

You should be following your surgeon's directions. Im glad you are feeling pretty good but the rule breaking needs to stop. You might be setting yourself up for a rough road.
You don't really want to be using fluid to get more food down. You want food to stick around in your pouch area.
Do what you will but please consider following your doctors rules.
Best wishes.

So I am not an expert, but it sounds to me like you need another fill. If you are still struggling like this and can eat a full meal you probably dont have enough "restriction". I know this means different things to different people, but you should only be able to eat about 1/2 to 1 cup of food at a meal. If you were at restriction, but loss some more weight, you might need more fills to get restriction again. Also, perhaps you should be counting calories strictly (at least for a while) to see how many calories you are really consuming (including condiments/dressings/snacks etc.). My goal is 1000 calories or few (and once a week I have about 1500), 80 grams of protein and 80 ounces of water (or more). If you are working out you can have more protein (80-100 grams). Also be sure to drink 60-100 ounces of water a day. I was banded on 1/17/11 (4 months ago) and I am at 8cc's in an 11cc realize band. I have lost about 55 pounds - I still have about 50 or 55 to go, but I am finally feeling some "restriction" - before my last fill I was just dieting (and it was super hard), now I take a few bites and then I feel full. I may need a little more in my band as I do get hungry after 2-3 hours instead of 4-5 hours, but before the last fill I was afraid I was going to be stuck on a restrictive diet for the rest of my life... now I know the band can help me to eat less and make better choices (my band doesnt like dense food, bread etc.). Try to watch your calories, protein and water intake for a few days and talk to your doctor (or another WLS doctor, if yours doesnt want to give you a fill) about getting more restriction. You CAN do it and the band DOES work... you just have to find your zone. Keep up your diet and the rules, until you find your zone... Good luck to you!

I am 2 days post-op. I've only slowed down becouse I don't want to mess up the band! The only pain I've had is gas pain. It just takes time for it to pass, but it will. I'm sore a little but not bad. I haven't even taken any pain medication. It's not that bad. Please keep in mind that the average wt. loss with the band according to the doctors in 4-8 pounds a month. It's not real quick, but in the long run each and every pound counts, and adds up! I will tell you that if you do research you will see that the band has a longer lasting sucess rate than the bypass does. If you get a bypass and overeat then overtime you will stretch the stomach back out, and it will be almost as if you never had it to begin with. The lapband is a tool you will have perm. if you mess up too much you can have a second chance by getting a fill! Please don't let a little pain scare you away from this surgery! Being overweight will cause you a lot of pain in the future that will last until you loose weight. The pain (which isn't much more than just soreness) will end soon after surgery then you can resume a normal life with less food, less weight, and more energy and better health!

If your looking for a quick fix this isn't it... sorry to break it to you. Lap band isn't going to fix all of your problems with obesity. It's major surgery and you will have pain and there are complications. Have you told your doctor your looking for a "quick fix"? What does he/she say?
I made the decision to get lap band in October 10 was banded 4/6/11, which is pretty quick considering I got insurance approval in that time. I don't think I really realized the seriousness of the surgery and I've had to learn post op... mind you I don't regret surgery at all! I put in 10 times as much effort now as I ever did preop! I have to work really hard. I watch everything I eat, calorie count, monitor my calorie output daily, I am not so great at the exercise thing but I realize I would have better results if I improved that area as well.
If your not prepared for some pain and struggle, not to mention put in a lot of effort I would recommend that you think really hard about what you are about to do. Now me... I didn't realize how much work it would be at first but I am totally committed now. This could be the thing you need to give yourself some accountability and "force" you into becoming a healthier you.
Best of luck coming up with your decision!

From now on.....
There will be ZERO adult language and conversation in ALL chat rooms, excluding the newly created "LBT After Dark" chat room.
All members will *strictly* adhere to these rules, no exceptions.

Ok, here are my two cents on this topic... As a night LBT person and a day LBT person, I can relate to both sides of the story. I understand completely about some of the foul mouths in the room, and I will admit that occasionally I am one of them, but I'm not the only one, which means that many other people in the room are doing the same thing. If thats the topic of the room, I tend to talk about it as well. I also talk about my lap band and how wonderful it is to have it.
I agree with Pamela about this, not only because she's my friend, but also because some people in this discussion has created drama and the room IS worst that high school. Some people feel that they need to tip toe their way around the chat room because they're scared to offend someone. If you would like to talk about the "after dark crew" offending some of the people in the room, well lets talk about how some of the people in the room has cursed out a few of the members in the past year (that I've been a member here) and those people are no longer on LBT. Those people that are no longer with LBT WERE my friends and the only way I can talk to them now is through facebook. Because this happened, I judged a few people in LBT for doing what they did but I never said anything because I do not like to create any problems.
This "after dark" situation has stopped and we DID go to another room but apparently some other idiot decided to follow us and kick us out of that room as well when we were doing nothing wrong. Also, I would like to point out that I always help new members, regardless if it's night or day. A few of the new members came into the room during our after dark chat and complained how no one bothered to help them because they were too focused on "which puppy to buy the kids". This has happened many times with new members coming into the day time and no one paid attention to their question.
I'm not here to create problems. I understand if some people had a problem with me doing my phone sex line on camera, and I have stopped. If someone wanted to watch me, they can private message me through the camera and I am more than happy to do it that way. I have respected people's opinions and judgement and I'm hoping you can do the same with mine. Thats all I'm asking for.

I am a frequent user of the chat room and I have been known to talk 'garbage' from time to time. The moment I noticed it was making people leave or offending anyone I instantly stopped. I figured that everyone else would have the same respect. When I asked this specific group to stop there was very graphic retaliation and demeaning slander said. The second time it was being asked to stop, the same results. I think everyone has the right to the chat room but NO ONE should be forced to be subjected to some of the conversations that go on at ANY TIME OF DAY. I can almost promise Alex didnt make these rooms in order for an online orgy to happen. I know his intent was to provide a certain level of support by peers not only about lapaband, but for all aspects of life. I do not see how this topic is doing the room any good.

dave was anything but kind and helpful on this night. as you yourself said, you were not there so you really have no right to comment. oh, but wait, yes you do...because men like ali's husband are fighting to support the rights for any person to state their opinion regardless of how ignorant it makes them look. now, let me explain this even slower so hopefully even you can understand. those of us in chat like the real time conversations that we are allowed to have there. for many of us, the chat room is our support group. i have not had one question about the band that has not been answered in this room. that being said, many of us are there for hours a day. we talk about many things in our lives. the band is just one of them. ali's husband was returning from iraq and, as she told you and you so coldly insulted her for, she was having concerns. as her friends, we were helping, supporting her through those. i have never seen anyone with a question about the band not have their question answered by at the very LEAST one person in the room. the regulars are friends though....and as such, we have supported each other through many things. the band is a LIFE CHANGE. all areas of life...only a small minded person would believe that life change means we only discuss a plastic ring around our stomachs.

Ditto that

stating the truth as it was...as others support it to have been...that is not hostility...that is HONESTY. the ONLY reason you felt unwelcome is because of the reaction you got to the pm's you mistakingly posted for the whole room to see. you were acting like the school yard bully who pulls hair and then expects a hug instead of a slap to his face. you can convince everyone who was NOT there of your innocence in the matter...you won't convince those of us who were actually there so easily. that is the one transcript i wish i had to share.

dave was anything but kind and helpful on this night. as you yourself said, you were not there so you really have no right to comment. oh, but wait, yes you do...because men like ali's husband are fighting to support the rights for any person to state their opinion regardless of how ignorant it makes them look. now, let me explain this even slower so hopefully even you can understand. those of us in chat like the real time conversations that we are allowed to have there. for many of us, the chat room is our support group. i have not had one question about the band that has not been answered in this room. that being said, many of us are there for hours a day. we talk about many things in our lives. the band is just one of them. ali's husband was returning from iraq and, as she told you and you so coldly insulted her for, she was having concerns. as her friends, we were helping, supporting her through those. i have never seen anyone with a question about the band not have their question answered by at the very LEAST one person in the room. the regulars are friends though....and as such, we have supported each other through many things. the band is a LIFE CHANGE. all areas of life...only a small minded person would believe that life change means we only discuss a plastic ring around our stomachs.

Resorting to calling someone you have never met rude names shows true childishness and immaturity. I stated nothing but the facts. Unfortunately, Dave tried to post his rude post in a PM and did not know what he was doing and it instead was shown to an entire room of people who did not appreciated his hatefulness and told him. Dave was in the room for about 5 to 10 minutes. I have been in this chat room for months. I have seen a full range of topics discussed...from the lapband...to the death of a friend...to quitting smoking...to sexual questions...to parenting questions...etc. I could go on and on. When you make a comment about anything without fully education yourself you are going on nothing but assumptions. People who make those kind of assumptions come off as true asses. If you want to post a rude comment about chat, stay in there longer than a few minutes to see what it is ALL about. If I am in the room, there is not one person i do not say hello to and ask how they are when they enter the room. If anyone has a question that I know the answer to it, I explain it to them. If anyone is in the room making a fool of themselves, I tell them that too. I do not support anyone causing problems in the room...which is exactly what Dave did. You ask why I am attacking Dave. I am not attacking him, I am stating the truth. However, I realize that there are many who can not handle that truth. hmmmmm indeed...take care

It just happens that I was there the night that Dave is referring to. Now, let me explain something. Yes, this is a chat room for discussing lapband. It is also a support group for many of us. Many of the regulars talk for several hours daily. If all we ever talked about was the band, it would get pretty boring for all of us quickly. We are all adults and thus, yes, sometimes even sexual questions get asked. We answer those just as well as we answer band questions. If someone needs support in any area, we try to be that support. Your accusation that is nothing more than a porn fest is completely ridiculous. As far as anyone attacking you, that is also ridiculous. We kept trying to tell you that you were posting in the room...that we could see everything that YOU were saying about us. YOU were the one who started tossing insults that you did not mean for us to see. YOU thought they were being said privately which shows you had no spine to say it to us directly and were instead resorting to gossip. YOU kept doing it even after we had told you that we could see it. I was the one who finally posted your pm that we were all seeing in the room back to you so you would finally understand that we were seeing it. ATTACKING YOU? That is hilarious. Instead, I was trying to show you that you were not understanding how to work private chat in the room. The others responded to the crude things you were saying about us. Let me add, this happened MONTHS ago and you are still hanging on to it? REALLY? All I can say is that I am personally sorry that you did not have the intelligence to work chat right so you could insult us without us seeing it. I am sorry that you got your feelings hurt even though you were the one who starting making insults. I am sorry that obviously this traumatized you so badly that you are still talking about it months later. I am sorry that you have such soft feelings that you could not handle someone trying to show you that you were messing up. Have a great day!!!! I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology for the things you said about us. BTW, had you waited around a few minutes, the entire conversation changed...just as it does anytime anyone has a question or a need. The regulars in this room are friends and we support one another through ANYTHING. We don't whine everytime someone doesn't pay specific attention to us.

It just happens that I was there the night that Dave is referring to. Now, let me explain something. Yes, this is a chat room for discussing lapband. It is also a support group for many of us. Many of the regulars talk for several hours daily. If all we ever talked about was the band, it would get pretty boring for all of us quickly. We are all adults and thus, yes, sometimes even sexual questions get asked. We answer those just as well as we answer band questions. If someone needs support in any area, we try to be that support. Your accusation that is nothing more than a porn fest is completely ridiculous. As far as anyone attacking you, that is also ridiculous. We kept trying to tell you that you were posting in the room...that we could see everything that YOU were saying about us. YOU were the one who started tossing insults that you did not mean for us to see. YOU thought they were being said privately which shows you had no spine to say it to us directly and were instead resorting to gossip. YOU kept doing it even after we had told you that we could see it. I was the one who finally posted your pm that we were all seeing in the room back to you so you would finally understand that we were seeing it. ATTACKING YOU? That is hilarious. Instead, I was trying to show you that you were not understanding how to work private chat in the room. The others responded to the crude things you were saying about us. Let me add, this happened MONTHS ago and you are still hanging on to it? REALLY? All I can say is that I am personally sorry that you did not have the intelligence to work chat right so you could insult us without us seeing it. I am sorry that you got your feelings hurt even though you were the one who starting making insults. I am sorry that obviously this traumatized you so badly that you are still talking about it months later. I am sorry that you have such soft feelings that you could not handle someone trying to show you that you were messing up. Have a great day!!!! I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology for the things you said about us. BTW, had you waited around a few minutes, the entire conversation changed...just as it does anytime anyone has a question or a need. The regulars in this room are friends and we support one another through ANYTHING. We don't whine everytime someone doesn't pay specific attention to us.