Hey there,

This is the first time I've started a thread here on Rants...., but I'm so mad that I decided to let it out... I had to vent....First Sean Penn, now Kevin Spacey meeting with Chavez.....there are so many better causes for actors to embrace. I don't understand how these radical liberal actors gravitate toward dictators and bad mouth America. You don't have to be a flag waving patriot, neither being a republican, nor a Democract has to do with anything here, it's about recognizing that Chavez, Castro and a few others that we already know who they are...., are indeed our enemies and they hate America & Americans and they procalim it. Period! Why don't they do a little homework about these dictators before they get involved or side with them?? Are they that stupid and ignorant? Really, these actors could show a little class and stop doing the "Fonda".

Go save Darfur, the Rain Forest, the artic, historical sites or something radically liberal and mainstream. Oh wait, can radically liberal and mainstream be used in the same sentence? It's a good thing Stalin isn't around anymore... now that would be a Hollywood Party! What do you think?

Have a good one!

Elena

I agree, its quite pathetic. :tired

I really don't care, to be honest. Hell, I'd probably go meet him. too. Whatever you may think about him, he'd be an incredibly interesting person to interview and do a little "mind-picking," just for the sake of doing it.

Yeah, LOL! I'm sure he is a really incredibly interesting person. If you ever meet him, you may want to ask him why is he taking over the private industry? do you think he may be a communist? hhhhhhhhmmmmm I don't know. Otherwise, why would he be taking away people's properties? things that people have worked so hard their entire lives for? I wonder...I'm sure he has a very valid reason to do that among other great things he is doing.....he's not a bad guy, he is just misunderstood and incredibly interesting! I don't know why it just doesn't do it for me....you know, the picking his mind thing........ silly me

I just don't understand what they intend to gain from meeting with him...

Look, whatever you may think, it's an interesting situation from a psychological standpoint. Wouldn't you ever want to have the opportunity to go up to historical figures and figure out their reasoning, ask them why they do things, get their outlook on certain things? It doesn't mean that you AGREE with them, for Pete's sake. It just means that you are curious. Seriously, consider it like watching a documentary. You don't watch documentaries on the Holocaust because you actually ENJOY seeing people massacred, burned in ovens, gassed. You do it because it's a learning experience.

Honestly, I think some of these Hollywood people are so used to the adulation and the fame and of course the money that they actually believe they are so smart and important....when in fact most of them have merely a high school diploma.... and they feel that their opinion matters, which at least it doesn't to me! they are so ouf of it as far as living in the real world........ yet, they think they know it all.....in my opinion, a lot of them are so fool and by siding with Chavez or Castro, they are letting the world know how ignorant they are, because if they really knew who these are, they wouldn't even get close to them...

I honestly think they DO know thety are not going to acomplish anything by meeting them.... but they have nothing better to do with their time and also a little extra publicity, even if it's bad publicity...

LOL! I have to laugh again, of course I'm not curious! I was born in Cuba in 1962, just 3 years after Castro took over and lived there for 14 years, I know exactly what Castro's and Chavez's reasoning is, who are by the way exactly the same.... Chavez being tutored by Castro... they are both power hungry totalitarian dictators and I know how people like them think, I don't need to meet them or interview them to know it.....and Chavez a historical figure? funny again! in my opinion he is nothing more than a monkey that can't even express himself correctly. It's actually embarrassing to hear him talking.... I often wonder if he even has any kind of education...if he does, I wonder where he got it....

No, no curiosity here about Chavez...! I'm curious about real historical figures though........

LOL! I have to laugh again, of course I'm not curious! I was born in Cuba in 1962, just 3 years after Castro took over and lived there for 14 years, I know exactly what's in Castro's mind and Chavez's mind, who are by the way exactly the same.... Chavez being tutored by Castro... and Chavez a historical figure? funny again! in my opinion he is nothing more than a monkey that can't even express himself correctly.....

No, no curiosity here about Chavez...! I'm curious about real historical figures though....

Well, not all of us were born in Cuba or lived under his regime. I'm not going to apologize for having an interest in psychology and sociology and how people reason and justify their actions. It's interesting to me. Sue me.

Oh no please you shouldn't need to apologize, I just wonder if you are that interested in psychology and sociology, why haven't you researched on Castro and Chavez, since you consider them historical figures? you may not want my advise and that's ok, but that may help you know a little bit about them, which I can already see that you don't know much.... I mean, just in case you don't have the pleasure to meet them some day... And the fact that I was born in Cuba and lived through 14 years of Castro's communist regime makes me just a little bit knowledgeable to talk about Castro and his little friend Chavez...and their twisted minds....

Oh no please you shouldn't need to apologize, I just wonder if you are that interested in psychology and sociology, why haven't you researched on Castro and Chavez, since you consider them historical figures? you may not want my advise and that's ok, but that may help you know a little bit about them, which I can already see that you don't know much.... I mean, just in case you don't have the pleasure to meet them some day... And the fact that I was born in Cuba and lived through 14 years of Castro's communist regime makes me just a little bit knowledgeable to talk about Castro and his little friend Chavez...and their twisted minds....

Oh no, I DO know about them. It just doesn't make them any less interesting to me. In fact, they're interesting because they are twisted. What's the fun in learning about something that's every-day normal? Think about it. If you were really into psychology, would you rather study someone who is as "normal" as they come, or someone who has odd habits, hang-ups, and strange behaviors?

And the fact is, they are historical figures. Just because we don't like our history, doesn't mean we get to deny that they have had HUGE impacts.

Hey, you have a point there, I'm sure I would want to know about people with strange behavior, but I guess this is so old to me and so clear to me that I feel that I don't really want to learn anything else about them, see, in my opinion, they are evil people, not complicated, complex , odd, or strange, they are both along with some other dictators around the world just pure evil people and finding out why the behave that way seems a waste of time, there is good and evil, they are evil....why some people are evil? because they just are, I would love to deeply know why some people are such great decent human beings also, but it's pretty much common sense, they choose to be that way, we all know right from wrong...when it comes to evilness, I think it works the same way, they are just bad, horrible evil people with evil minds.... they choose to be that way, why their brain chooses evil over good? again, I believe it's their choice, sure, they may have some insecurities or childhood issues, but hey, don't we all, that doesn't mean that we all become evil....so again I have to say, to me, there is not much to learn about their behavior, I actually think they are stupid simple evil people.

Am I rambling on? oh well....sue me!

Hey, you have a point there, I'm sure I would want to know about people with strange behavior, but I guess this is so old to me and so clear to me that I feel that I don't really want to learn anything else about them, see, in my opinion, they are evil people, not complicated, complex , odd, or strange, they are both along with some other dictators around the world just pure evil people and finding out why the behave that way seems a waste of time, there is good and evil, they are evil....why some people are evil? because they just are, I would love to deeply know why some people are such great decent human beings also, but it's pretty much common sense, they choose to be that way, we all know right from wrong...when it comes to evilness, I think it works the same way, they are just bad, horrible evil people with evil minds.... they choose to be that way, why their brain chooses evil over good? again, I believe it's their choice, sure, they may have some insecurities or childhood issues, but hey, don't we all, that doesn't mean that we all become evil....so again I have to say, to me, there is not much to learn about their behavior, I actually think they are stupid simple evil people.

Am I rambling on? oh well....sue me!

I agree with you to a point. I agree that these are both evil, evil people. But I'd like to know why they choose certain actions over others, why they behave the way they do, what brought them to the point they are at. I'm curious. That doesn't mean that I condone their behavior.

I'd like to know what their thought methods are, you know? How they think, how they reason, what makes them different from other people.

So what? Hitler did too! He was nuts! He was evil! maybe he had some childhood issues, who cares, really, but mainly he was just an evil person and he did have a huge impact on the world, but I certainly wouldn't have liked to meet him! I don't think that even with a deep interest in psychology and sociology, I wouldn't have benefited from meeting him....he would've probably lied to me about the reasons he had to do what he did and tried to convince me that he was actually a good person... frankly I couldn't believe one word he would've said, and it's the same way I feel about Castro, Chavez, Sadam Hussein , etc.... It would be foolish to believe that you will get the actual truth out of any of these liars....