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Thank you Carlene !!!!! That clears a lot of my questions!!!!!

:omg: HEEEEEEY GUYS ; Here we are discussing racism and lack of tolerance and respect ... in the process we are offending each other (SKY/STAMP) Yep we like controversy and we like to fight a little:o well a lot!!!(He,He) but guys we are all "BANDSTERS" .Isn't it time to change the subject...lets discuss something else.... I don't know ...Any ideas???

Sky, I agree with you. It was me the one who said that if he was to be working in a less public place (a Dr's Off.) he would be fired.(REDICULUS...just kidding For some people racial jokes are funny, my husband is North American (White) I am not, he likes to tell jokes that involves people of different races(black,french,latino). He enjoys this things..I just don't. And with this I'm not saying he is bad and that I am a bitter witch..is just that your race is who you are, what you love...C'mon who will like to hear your ------(fill in the blank) MOM!!!

Carlene: You are a doll!!! Thank you so much.

pleeeese ,pleeease how do you quote somebody??? Have mercy, anybody????

Food stamp: Then why the anti-descrimination law??? There is a limit on what to say or not.

How do you quote somebody " I'm computer challenged!!!!!

baby: this in reference to hip-hop

Baby: What really surprise me is that some women do not feel offended by this!!!! C'mon if a guy comes and calls me Ho to my face...he is going to walk a long way to be able to find his teeth. Many guys act the way they do because ,if they insulted a girl once and nothing happened ..why not do it again? We somehow "educate" or "condition" the people around us to respect us or not depending on our own actions (and re-actions). I'm sure that FOODSTAMP comands respect around 80 guys just by respecting herself!!!!

So ,let me see if I understood::tired When I call somebody else a diminishing, racist, or discriminating word and then say: “It was a joke” or “famous so and so did it too” or “ He/she call herself that word before“ or maybe if I say “ I apologize”… then I should be forgiven and I won’t lose my job??? If I do something good, like donating money to a good cause then I can get away with anything?:guess The point is not if the basketball team forgave him. The point is, he knew thousands of people of many races were listening and still he said “Nappy hair Hos”. To be funny, cool, or whatever, he said that and now he is fired.:faint: What is funny is that we could go against each other the whole day and this guy will never know about our opinions!!!! :bored So…..NEXT TOPIC PLEEEEASE!!!!!

No Carlene you are not old, you are just a decent, kind girl who will not stand for garbage like this.

FAITHMD: Ridiculous to fire the man???? Let's say he did this while working at a doctor's office or at any other "less public" work place then , Would it be ok to fire him? If your own daughter was part of this team, would you feel the same way? Why excuse this kind of behavior? Why not support decency,respect and tolerance? Yes, we all say stupid things because we all are humans.I know that if I say something like this I will get fired. YOU would get fired too. The sad part is that we "get used to" vulgarity, racism and hate. Please, as women we need to support each other, white, black, asian, hispanic.... darn it, as women we have enough to worry about: family,periods,cancer,work,ageing, weight and so on....

I was talking with my high school junior about this incident and she was telling me: Mom can you imagine all this kids in 10 ten years talking to their own children? Dad: To his 3rd grader “hey nappy hair Ho” how was your day at school my “little bitch”? Child: Yo Dad!! School today was kind of sh….y ,that teacher Ho gave us a lot of homework. Dad: That’s ok , you need homework in order to be a smart, productive member of this f…en society. She was explaining to me that many teachers nowadays use the same kind of language to appear “COOL” and to “connect” with the students. She was telling me how her teacher went on and on about how he and his “hommeys “ used to smoke “pot’ during test time to be relaxed and be able to study. Pleeeease what can we expect if we have so many “teachers” ( weirdos!!!!) ruining the work of some good parents and of some other excellent teachers who are working hard to make a difference?

NO REGRETS!!!! I was banded March 25,2006. I used to be a 40DDD bra. Now I'm a 36DD. Used to be a size 20, now a 12.Used to weight 250lbs now160lbs. Before I suffered from asthma,kneepain,backpain,shortness of breath and irregular heartbeats. And the well know syndrome: "WHAT THE HECK SHOULD I WEAR IF NOTHING FITS!!!!" every morning. Yep I too have some skin and boob "loseness" Oh but all of this is sooooo not important. Now I know my chances of "NOT" having a heart attack are better then before. Thank you Lord for second chances,for supportive people,for this new life!!!! Thank you for having a job and a roof over my head !!!!!! Well as you can see...no, no regrets here.

I am changing careers. Until the spring classes start, I am working as a sub/teacher at my child’s school. The rap music is a big influence on the kids!!!! You can hear our African-American children calling each other “nigger””Ho” , the Hispanic ones calling each other “beaners””F..Immigrant” and the Anglo children calling each other “cracker”, ”bitches” etc… It got so bad, that the counselors called for an assembly. It was hard for the children to understand why it was wrong to call each other names. “But I’m of the same race as he/she is, and I’m not offended” “ Is just a joke” “Is cool with me if he calls me a HO” “Oh my friends knows that I don’t mean it “that way. This and other comments were the ones that we heard that day. They don’t comprehend the real meaning of this words.The singers are not punished for using them, and this singers are “successful” and rich. So what is wrong with this??? Is this freedom of speech? Is this just an innocent, jokingly way to call each race a little name? My children wouldn’t even think about doing that. They know exactly why this is wrong. Is it the children’s fault, or the parents fault for allowing this kind of music at home???