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I gotta back up Floridays and marfar here. If you're looking to be baby'd and coddled, this is the place to come. It's also the place to come to if you want or don't want the hard truth. I lost 12 lbs the first 2 weeks and then nothing for nearly 4 months. I didn't throw in the towel. If you're looking for consoling for giving up after 3 short months, I can't help you. Sounds to me like you're looking for consoling or affirmation that giving up was the right path? And it aint being mean Cheri. Enabling someone can also be mean. We all have different paths here and we all advise and support differently. That's why this is such a great forum. tmf

It's when you have the right amount of restriction, you're satisfied with less food(1 cup) and aren't hungry between meals. Watch this video. Watch it all but if you want to just know about the green zone, go to 5:40 minutes into the video. I'd recommend watching all 4 videos.

Why respond at all? She was right. tmf

Maybe you're not very good at reading body language? They could be looking at you and thinking hooray for that fat guy, he's actually trying to do something about his health? Think positive my friend, positive. Yeah, I know there are many out there who look down at us, but I know when I see someone who is obese and they are walking, bike riding or in the gym, I think, there's a guy who understands he has to do something to improve his lot in life. Give em a big smile and a thumbs up next time. tmf

For some of us it takes many months to find restriction and the green zone. At first it angered me that I had to wait so long. But looking back on the journey I see now that it was a blessing. I really did not understand how to eat with my band. It has taken months and even a year now to figure this out. I believe that finding so much restriction so soon can be detrimental. I know I was looking for that full feeling or for some overt sign that I could stop eating but it never came. Taking 30 minutes to eat is now the norm for me. I find that by 30 minutes I'm no longer hungry and it's so much easier to stop and just throw away food that until now, I would have eaten at one sitting. It's the small bites, big chews that work for me. And I do have to say that for you or others, it may be different. It usually is. My doctor, and I believe most doctors prefer to sneak up on the green zone. It gives the patient ample time to acclimate to eating with the band. It does sound like you could use a small unfill but it's best to follow the doctors orders I guess? tmf

Like I said and PGKpjs said, your pouch does not hold 4 ozs of food. It's really not a pouch. It's a staging area for the food to pass through to your stomach. It should only have one bite of food in it at one time. If you are stuffing your face with 4 ozs of food at one time, then you are stretching out your esophogus. tmf

What are you eating to cause the stuck episodes? Have you tried Soups or slider foods? If they get stuck, you're too tight. If not, maybe you need to take smaller bites and chew more. Eliminate the obvious before you take any Fluid out. tmf

Your understanding of how this all works is inaccurate. No one has a 4 oz pouch. We all have a one bite at a time pouch. The pouch above the band is only there to allow one bite at a time to pass through the band to the lower stomach. It does not hold 4 or 8 ozs of food. The band is designed for us to eat one bite at a time. The pouch will massage the bite of food through the band in about one minute. That's why we are instructed to eat slowly. And all of you are experiencing what most all bandsters go through. The period between being banded and finding restriction can take up to 6 months. Yeah, I know, no one told you about this part of your journey? But now you know. You will be in bandster hell until you find enough restriction to find satiation by eating 1/2 - 1 cup of food. Satiation is the goal here. I highly recommend you watch all 4 videos of this series, but at the minimum, watch this video. It will demonstrate what your band is doing.2:30 minutes into the video begins to explain how this all works?

" Not sure if I'm not chewing well, eating too fast, or if my band is too tight?" Could be any one of these? So, try eating Soup or some slider foods? If they get stuck, you're probably too tight? Or, take extremely small bites and chew chew chew. If they get stuck, ditto. That would eliminate the first two options. tmf

How often can I get fills? How long are they free and what will they cost if not? How long are my follow ups free and what is the cost when they are not? Do you have a staff nutritionist and what are her/his credentials? What will it cost to visit the nutritionist? What are pre and post op diet guidelines? What are post fill guidelines? Are you available for emergency calls after hours? Do you have a handbook or manual you give to patients? How many surgeries have you performed(if less than 100 run away). How long have you been in bariatrics? tmf

15 lbs in less than 2 months is very good. No need to worry or be concerned. You're in bandster hell and will be till you get the fill that takes you to the green zone. I lost 12 lbs immediately and then nothing for the next 3.5 months. "Until there's restriction, it's just another diet"...B-52 esteemed forum member. tmf

Drink Water when your thirsty and drink as much as you feel you need. Your body knows when it needs to be replinished and will let you know. tmf

Why fret over past mistakes? You made the right choice to have WLS and you're on your way to a healthier life. Few of us will ever look like swimsuit models so toss that fantasy away. You say you are disappointed in how you feel but it sounds like you're more disappointed in how you look? Looking good should be less than half of the reason you did this. Living longer and living a healthier more active life should be more important than vanity. You're only 6 months into this journey. At 6 months I had lost only 25 lbs. I still don't look good in a swimsuit. Of course I'm an old SOB so I tossed that fantasy away long ago. You can't change the past but you do have control over your future. 42 lbs is awesome and just think how good you will look and feel after the next 42 lbs melts away. tmf

I don't count calories. I kept a journal for a few weeks about 7 months ago and I was consuming around 1200-1400 a day. So, I know as long as I buy the right foods and consume the right foods I'll stay within those parameters and continue to lose weight. tmf

Make sure you're drinking your protein and taking your vitamins. Why can't you get more in? Stuck? Full? Not hungry? Your body will pretty much shut down if you starve it. It goes into survival mode which means it's conserving energy that might make your feel better? Maybe you should be adding 2% milk to your shakes?? I'm probably lousy at this since I've never had a problem eating. I eat less but not as little as 500/calories a day. tmf

I agree with Destynee. Call the doc and explain the situation tomorrow. A quick visit to your doctor is much cheaper than a visit to the ER. tmf

So, I wasn't going to post anything about my one year anniversary but here I am. Am I glad I did it? YES, YES, YES! One year and a day ago I was floundering around my exercise routine and every diet I tried. I've only lost 50 lbs so far but then I only have about 30 to get to my goal(which I may change). Lots of exercise has added some extra muscle so I may increase my goal to 150 so I'm really only 25 lbs away. I've found old clothes that I stopped wearing back in the 90's that now fit very comfortably. Fortunately for us guys, fashion doesn't really change all that much. I've bought some new pants, shirts and a nice jacket. All my friends and associates compliment me on how much better I look. Feels so good My confidence is sky high. My business is soaring. Life is so good now and I can do so much more than I could do before. I see bandsters posting how they miss chocolate, ribs, fried chicken, steak and ice cream. I don't miss them but then again, I'm not really denying myself these luxuries. I just eat them less often and eat much less when I do. I don't crave any foods now. The only downside I've come across is that many of these comfort foods I once worshipped, don't have the same taste or effect they once had. I eat to live now, not live to eat. The other downsides such as stuck episodes, sliming, inability to eat certain foods(dry chicken, ick!) pale in comparison to the joy of being thinner and healthier. I'm so much more intimate with my wife than before. She exclaims that had she known how frisky I was going to be, she would have demanded I be banded long ago For those who are reading this and are just starting or re-entering their journey, it is so worth it. Don't despair over the week or month long plateaus. Don't be discouraged if you've only lost 20 lbs in 6 months. I only lost 20 lbs the first 5 months but I kept on moving forward. Sure, there were days I doubted my decision, but those days are behind me now. Good luck to all and tomorrow I enter year 2 of my journey and I will be here to comment and advise. Dan(tmf)

Doctors are real people too. They have their favorites. Ford, Chevy, Toyota?? Lapband, sleeve, bypass? In his practice maybe he's had a couple of bands not go well and has one or more sleeves that worked out well. Too bad he's not a better communicator?? He could tell you why he believes the way he does. tmf

If your doctor requires you to drink Protein that is OK, but at this stage you should be getting your protein from chicken, fish, beef, lean meats not processed. shakes are a slider food and you will feel hungry after drinking one. Foods like meats and veggies fill that upper pouch and seem to create that effect that stimulates the vagus nerve giving you the satiation sensation? You probably already know this but for those who are new and don't know, Protein Shakes or any liquid will not satisfy most of us. Solid foods work best with the band if you seek satiation(again, for most of us). tmf

There could be several reasons for your problem. 1. Yes, could be a leak? 2. You may get swollen from the fill which creates a much tighter stoma. Then the swelling/edema goes away leaving you with less restriction. 3. We've had many posters here who have similar experiences but as time goes along they confess they're eating lasagna, chinese food, hamburger helper and other slider foods. Not saying you do this but what are you eating? 4. Fat surrounding your stomach may squeeze away or slip away leaving the band with less to push against. The result is less restriction. Your doctor should know and there's no harm in asking for a visit sooner than 2 weeks? tmf

You got it right. You're in bandster hell. Took me 3 fills to find some minor restriction and 6 fills to get to the green zone. Like our friend B-52 said, "Until there's restriction, it's just another diet". Ask for another fill and also speak to the nutritionist? Destynee is right, eating the right way with the band will help you find restriction. Slider foods won't. tmf

I think your friend is lousy with math. Pay no attention to mathematically impaired people. tmf

You should copy and save your post from today. In the future you will see many newbies posting how discouraged they are and are so concerned they have done the wrong thing to be banded. Your words will provide some guidance and validation to many that they are on the right track and that they just need to stay the course. Congrats. tmf

I'd have to say it's mostly incorrect. The author is a bypass patient and his knowledge of lapband surgery seems to be what he's heard. In fact, it's the same BS I heard before I had surgery. Maybe this was the story back in 2009 but seems as though the story or theory behind the band efficacy has moved some? Bob P(youtube author) seems to believe that we carry around a half cup or so of food in our pouch and that is what makes us feel full? He's right if that were the case but we now know that the pouch is simply a staging area for the food to pass through in one minute or less. Filling the pouch is not what satiates us. It's the rhythm of the pouch massaging the food through the band that is supposed to give us that satiated feeling. At least that's what the story is this year? But, no, we aren't supposed to carry around food above the band for a couple of hours. Drinking while eating is a subject best left to each of us but only after we have become one with our band and have this symbiotic relationship that so many have found. Until we understand and can wisely use our tool should we deviate from our doctor's pre-programmed plan. jmo tmf

I don't see why? I recall that eating small meals all day long was a method to increase or maintain one's metabolism? If you enjoy being uncomfortable due to hunger I guess it would be acceptable but I wouldn't want to live like that again. I tried it before surgery for years and it never worked. I'm sure it works for some people but those are folks who seem to consistently have a handle on their intake. Most of us lost that ability to not overeat long ago. I remember eating several meals a day and it got to the point I was living for my next meal. All I could think about was what my next meal would be? That's a lot of work and time consumed planning, making and eating all day. Why not eat 3 meals a day and simplify your life? Eating to live is more important than living to eat for me now. One thing you will take away from this experience will be that to be succesful with the band, you will find your own way. And that could be eating 5 times a day. If it works, go for it. We all have adapted and modified our lives to make this band work. You will too. tmf