loserbob

Ok, good point. It makes sense but like most angered by the mosque issue its based more on emotions than legality.

Im not saying this to be mean. You know what she meant when she said that. Again it goes back to ethics. Im not sure why your so sympathetic towards muslims and illegal immigrants. As far as us shining, we look like fools in the eyes of radical muslims and I feel we are being taken advantage of! This only energizes radicals!

The Catholic church thing, 1 wouldnt be enough. This country is major majority christian. I wonder what the ratio of christians and places of worship is to Muslims to mosques in New York. Again Catholics didnt blow people up!

Carl Paladino wants to do an eminent domain easement. Also I read on "Capitol Confidential" that when the mosque is built theyre going to put the faces of the terrorist hijackers on a wall built specifically for that reason! You can read about it at that site.

The funny thing is I never thought of it that way. If theres already one 4 blocks away, whats the purpose of this one 2 blocks away? Now Im really pi$$ed. Maybe there is some truth about putting places of worship at sites they have conquered! I just cant remember anybody theyve conquered. Maybe thousands of years ago. I never had any interest in learning about Mesopotamia, the bread basket of the world bs, that was nap time for me!

I was hoping. I didnt think it would be this quick but your coming around! Yah, no Jap anything near Pearl Harbor. My grandfather fought in WWII. There was no pol. correct bs back then. Lets at least respect the greatest generation by not caving in! Come on, Warner Bros. cant even put Bugz Bunny on TV because of the Pol correct bs of today! I wonder if we could put the Enola Gay in Hiroshima or Nagasaki!!!

Actually we should take care of business before the storm comes(In the context Im using your saying, it sounds like Im content on containing a nuclear Iran which Im not!).

The main reason Israel takes land in the Palestinian territory is so the Kyatusha rockets launched by the Pals. dont reach Israel. They push them back to protect their citizens. Very simple solution here. Quit firing rockets and mortars at someone who will obliterate you in conflict! This really pi$$es me off about the Palestinians. Because they try to take on the regional superpower of the ME(Israel) with their obsolete weapons they get sympathy from the rest of the world and Israel the "bully" is picking on them! If you ask me theyre just plain stupid! I wouldnt start a fight or even engage in a fight with someone I knew would kisk my a$$!

Let me ask you this question. Is there any other place on earth you would feel more safe living? Ill assume the only right answer here, NO! Our military has gotten us what we want up to this point. My only hope is that people with your beliefs dont have a say in future conflicts because it probably wont get us what we want in "the long run"!

We're not there as occupiers anymore. These are strategic locations and we also are in Japan and S. Korea Saudi Arabia as a deterrent. We're not taking over the world. Japan S. Korea, Germany are all better places because of us! I go to a site called the Jerusalem post. You can post comments like you do here. There was a guy on there from the Netherlands talking about how it disgusts him that we try to police the world. He said we would fail in Iraq and Afghanistan. About a month after that there was a major earthquake in Iran. He said we where to slow in sending aid and we didnt send enough money as compared to other countries. I asked him if he wanted us to "police the world" or not, that he couldnt have it both ways meaning we're their when its convenient for him! He never responded, of course! People need to realize this world is far from perfect and unfortunately there is a need for war. Iraq was a mistake started from lies. Where are all those Iraqi scientists and former military officers Fox news kept interviewing before the war started, crying about how Sadam had WMDs and how they where being transported to Syria. Think about it, Narcisistic Sadam wouldnt give weapons to neighbors on his borders at any cost. Funny, I havent seen one(Iraqi scientists and former military officers) since the start of the debacle in Iraq(no disrespect to soldiers, theyre doing what theyre told to do and very well). Afghanistan, Im not sure what our objective is anymore. It shouldnt be to "nation build" because thats impossible. Many military's and empires have tried and failed! Iran who threatens world peace would be just in my opinion.

Actually I wanted to see if she knew. She talks about Defending yourself only if attacked on own soil. We where attacked on our own soil and she still has a problem with defending ourselves! It was very contradictory.

I voted for Obama and think hes doing well for what was handed to him and I voted for him because of healthcare, Im just mad we wont get a gov option. So dont hand me the bs about how I just dont like Obama. And I will vote for him in 2012 . Again, I will make a generalization here which I believe to be true. Your one of those "we brought it all on ourselves, Its Israels fault that they get bombed every other day"! Israel contrbutes more to us and the world than all mid-east countries cimbined. These poor middle easterners, who stone women for infidelity, who consider women to be at the bottom of "the Totem Poll". You act like we go around killing at will because we feel like doing so! If you lived in the 30s-40s Im sure you would have been upset with our actions toward Hitler. We where attacked on our own soil, wake up! Your going in circles. Your opinion is fine, its what you believe and I respect that. I just dont understand what your opinion is. You preach about peace then post a Quote like that which contradicts everything youve said. Who was the wise person anyway?

Its as simple as this. Ill be very upset if it happens and so will will 200,000,000 Americans! Whether right or wrong those are the facts. Hey Muslims, if you put it there, stay the bleep away from me, I dont want to be your friend or learn about your culture! Although I do love Pita Lands Hummus and stuffed grape leaves. Actually Amols is a great place to eat also.

Also as far as the sun rising, how can you be so sure, the people who went to work in the trade center thought theyd see sundown that day! Thats a little far fetched I know.

If I remember correctly the terrorists went to strip clubs before the incident, I remember people on the news talking about that, I was so heavy into Faux propaganda then! Im not talking about the constitution, I know theyre allowed. Like I said it bothers me that the majority of Americans are upset and outraged and they still want to proceed. Thats the slap in the face to me! Then they say its to teach us about islam. Theyre doing it in spite of the fact the majority of Americans dont want it.

Bjean not so fast please. Rupert is associated with reps, I understand all that but there are also dems who support it. Also this building is a part of ground zero it was damaged by the landing gear of one of the planes! I read what CM posted up above and it did get me thinkin but this just isnt right! Like I said, it was bad enough they wanted to rebuild there but when they see the outpouring of anger and hurt its causing they still want to do it even after they where asked to move it with the help/money from the gov or state or someone! They where offered assistance and refused it! Thats not how you make friends. I know what CM and others are saying and its true, they have the right legally and a whole group is being persecuted for a few "bad apples" but the majority in this country feel as I do!

Im independent, hey Patty I know your watching! Take away in and you get dependent. I do need some handouts.

Thats why I pay to send my kids to Catholic school. They have a company called the nutrition group who does their lunches. Last year they used Aramark whose lunches where terribly unhealthy. They served alot of processed foods, chix nuggets, frozen waffles, everything was easily prepared. Parents complained so they have a company who pays more attention to nutrition and health. They have no soda pop machines, at least not for the kids. My kids are both in elementary school and I think its very important to start youg, theyre very influencial and only know what theyre taught. Why not teach them to be healthy!

Hey Murpel, its time to dance in the rain, the storm is coming!

Sorry im not giving you the politically correct answer you want to hear, I just live in the real world where war has always been and always will be a way of life, unfortunately! But hey, next time your sitting in your place of worship, or doing anything else that interests you, thank a soldier, man or woman for the fact you can do it in peace!!!

What do you suggest we do with Iran, who's leader threatens Israels existence by making threats of wipeing them off the map! Whose stated goal is to end Zionism by getting rid of the jews and also getting rid of America! He doesnt have a nuclear bomb yet! What will he say, more importantly what will he do when he has one? Its not a warmongering rep point of view, at least not anymore. There are alot of dems who feel this needs to be dealt with! And at what point do you start taking Ahmadinijad at his word, probably after its too late hah? Sorry not me. We played around with N. Korea and Clinton let them develop a bomb after supplying them with a light-Water reactor. Kim Jong Il makes threat after threat, even kills 43 S korean soldiers by torpedoing their battle ship. What was the S. Korean response? Thats right, nothing because the north has a bomb! Now multiply that by 100 times when it comes to Iran. They already make threats about shutting down the Strait of Hormuz to stop the flow 80% of the worlds oil daily! The Saudis are afraid of being taken over by Iran. Iran has Hizbullah, Hammas they can use and supply nuc weapons to. It will start an arms race in the middle east!! What dont you understand!!!! Another thing, send your daughter, mother, sister over to Iran, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, wherever in the middle east to promote peace, Just make sure you tell them how much you love them!!! You say people all over the world want what we want, I believe that for the most part but tell me why there has never been peace in the middle east? These people have tribe mentalities. They live in the stone age, Im not being funny here. You can sit in your church and pray, You can drive to the mall and shop, you can buy any car or house you can afford and most of all you can do it in peace because there are people who sacrificed their time and in many cases their lives by doing "icky" things. Actually the problem is we're not blasting them all! We're not allowed to kill them all.(Im not talking about all muslims, Im talking about extremists, we're not allowed to kill them if there is any chance civilians will be killed, even though theyre shooting at us while hiding with civilians) we follow rules of war even against enemies who dont. To my last point, do you actually believe soldiers want to go to war? Think about the drs who where in Afghanistan since the 60s helping, donating to the Afghans, medical help. They where killed by Alqaeda a few weeks ago for being non muslim and spreading Christianity, they actually spared the life of the muslim interpreterbecause he started reciting the koran. They hate non muslims! So why dont you send more females over to promote peace, if you do make sure theyre females you dont care for! Why is it so difficult to see these people dont share the same values we do, which is fine. The problem is when someone comes on here with the answer that we should all live in peace, its just so out of touch with reality. The scarier part is you actually believe its possible!!

Heres my main problem. I know in past posts Ive said some awful things and thats not really how I feel. It was to get a rise out of people, which it did! Ok, heres the problem. There are alot of Muslims who live in this country and are upstanding citizens. Its not right to do things like what happened to the taxi driver(I actually think they should hang the guy who did it by his "you know whats" with piano string!!!!) But on the other hand, we're told to be tolerant and we find out the Muslim working at the kiosk at the mall is supporting Alqaeda or Hizbullah. I think if they want us to be tolerant they should go out of there way to make me believe. Keeping to themselves like most do wont work! Thats why Im thinking about going to the University of Pittsburgh, theyre having a Ramadan celebration until its over. Theres a 200 person tent set up and its open to the public so we can see , "learn" about Turkish culture. If you want me to learn about your Muslim culture, include food and Im there! Dont build a mosque where Muslim extremists killed 3000 people! There are Imams, Sheiks and Grand Muftys there. The writer of the story in the local paper said he attended and he felt very comfortable. The Imam I believe invited the writers family over to his house one evening this week to break fast for Ramadan.

I believe if Pam Geller didnt start this someone else would have. Like I said before, theres a reason this is such a hot topic. The majority dont want it so it will never be.

Im not trying to lessen the Pentagon or Shanksville by any means but I think the World Trade Center is the place everyone thinks of when they remember 9-11. Like Bjean said, the towers where a symbol of economic dominance. Not to change the subject but I just found out I live 1 street over from a girl killed on the Lockerby bombing Airplane.

If your saying "I only care that its a real place of worship", that means there is doubt in your mind. Why wont anyone say who's financing it? One of the main reasons I dont agree with putting one there is because I have my doubts and Im not willing to find out after its too late! Hows the saying go? You know the one Bush made popular by screwing it up, Fool me once etc!