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The first time you have solid food and it hits your new swollen sleeved stomach, you won't be so eager to chew. @@fancy4life You really shouldn't be hungry. The nerves aren't even reconnected for you to feel physical hunger. It you are feeling "hunger" in your chest, that is acid. Make sure you are on a PPI. If you are feeling hunger below your rib cage, that isn't hunger, that is your digestive system work. Head hunger in the very beginning is very real. If you cave to it with chips in the first month, you are going to have long term issues staying on plan.

I didn't even know that fat girls want to think of Marilyn as fat at all. She never was fat, just not toned. Toned women were rare during her reign. The same goes for toned men. It's true, though, that, according to the 'ideal' that's thrust in our faces now, she was a tad fubsy. Bizarre thinking. Hey, those who were of the age of consciousness at the time will know that revivals of hair are anachronistic for the actors. Their muscle definition is out of place in a show about the '60's. They really look weird. She was barely fluffy, Elizabeth Taylor was always on the meaty side, she was never super slender. A lot of actresses at that time were not really slender, exercise wasn't a big thing then and most women thought it wasn't feminine. She had a 22-24 inch waist most of her life. You can never put her in the chunky pile like people keep trying to do.

The sizes started at 10 back then. So a 10 then would be todays size 0 and an 18 was a like a size 8 or a 10. Marilyn was never as fat as fat girls want to think she was. http://mentalfloss.com/article/66536/what-dress-size-was-marilyn-monroe-actually

This is what I started doing so I could feel like I am eating more. I have a "huge" salad in the afternoon. 2 cups of salad seems massive, but its a slider. I use calorie free dressing and barely any cheese. The whole thing is 35 calories usually. 148 pounds in less than a year is a lot. Your body might need to rest. I'm not sure you should be so concerned about not losing weight as long as you are eating on plan, even if you are eating 1000 calories a day. If you really think you are getting out of control with food, you could try a couple days of liquids and see if that helps break you out of it.

As long as you didn't have carbs I think you should be okay. Just straight protein shouldn't hurt you as long as your surgery isn't the next day.

The first thing I tried post op was a scrambled egg. I had like 2 bites. I was stuffed. That meal plan is nuts

@@Margie122 I would contact University of Illinois at Chicago. It would be cheaper there. Universities are cheaper than fitness based places that do it, and you can get feed back from a PhD. I have looked for the information on University of Illinois at Chicago. I can't find it right now but I will keep looking. If you have a research university near you, you should try them. Also some Chiropractors have them, even if they don't advertise them Edited to add Found it. They don't have DXA scans listed but they have RMR testing. I would contact them and ask them about DEXA anyway just to check. http://recreation.uic.edu/human-performance-lab/

Some is vanity sizing, there is lots of vanity sizing and some is our bodies being different. Months ago, I was able to wear some jeans from college, then though at the time I was much heavier than I was in college. I am still heavier in weight than I was in college and those jeans now are too big. I look smaller than I did in college, even though I weigh at least a good 30 pounds more than my Freshman gain highest. My body is totally different.

Nestle has been doing the same thing in the developing world for years. Selling "fortified" chocolate and Cookies and telling people they are healthy. It doesn't matter really. The US is a flat market. All the growth for most companies is in the developing world. There are areas of the world where Water is bad, so people just drink coke. People were drinking Coca-Cola for decades and not getting massively fat. The difference was, soda was considered a rare treat, it was made with real sugar, and it was in reasonable portions.

@@Lgr3 I don't think its high enough quality Protein to bother with. It is better than nothing though.

How fast you get out kind of depends on you. I walked aggressively while in the hospital and made a great effort to get my fluids and "food" in. I wanted to be out in 24 hours and pushed to make it happen.

@@lunarose in 5 years the body is adjusted to the malabsorbtion, and it has decreased to almost nothing. The intestinal track adjusts. That is why it is important to develop healthy eating habits because you can't rely on malabsoprtion forever. This is why long term, the sleeve and the bypass have the same results. It isn't about the stomach stretching, it is about people falling back into old habits. The pouch can stretch more than the sleeve, but that isn't the issue. Success of failure is about people making real, lasting lifestyle changes.

You have to let her make her own mistakes. I understand she is your friend and you want to help her, but you can't help her. This is a critical time for you, worry about yourself. There is so much that goes into learning your new digestive system, concentrate on yourself. I have wasted so much time in the past 6 months or so trying to help people improve their eating. I tell them everything, show them everything I can, and they still don't follow it, even though they come to me. This to me is just like when people ask me about how to run their own business. People with the personality and drive to do it, wouldn't have to ask me about it. She doesn't have the desire to eat better you can't make her. A drowning person can drown a strong swimmer trying to save them.

A list of low carb keto friendly fruits... Berries are your friend! I don't eat fruit except strawberries. I am not a huge fruit person, never have been. I'd rather eat veggies, you can eat large amounts for very few calories. i am not the sweet tooth type, but I like a strawberry now and then.

The difference with the sleeve is after you are healed, eating less is effortless compared to dieting before surgery. Sure people eat around their sleeves. You have to purposely try to do that, it doesn't happen by accident it is a choice. WLS isn't the easy way out. It is still hard work, but having the sleeve as your tool makes it a lot easier. The ability to eat very little and not feel like you are starving is something you can only understand once you have experienced it.

@@jendolly If you have been low carb all this time, you are into some really deep ketosis. That can make the taste of food off. It improves.

Are you 269 or 296? How much Protein do you have eat day and how many calories. I didn't drop a ton of weight very fast in the beginning. It ws just steady and kept happening with a few stalls. Losing slower has its benefits. As long as you are eating right don't worry about the scale right now, you are still healing.

@@Babbs Yeah basically, I have 2 or 3 days a week where it is a real struggle to get in enough calories and Protein because I just don't care.

@@gina171 The sleeve is a faster and easier recovery. The weight loss long term is about the same so it really just comes down to person choice.

For me, it isn't about breaking bad habits. It's about having options and tools. Just like the sleeve, JUDDD is a tool for me to utilize when and if I can. And since I wont be on 500 calories for the rest of my life, I still like to keep things flexible. I asked to see if anyone had incorporated it into their life to see where they're calories are fitting in. When I last did JUDDD, I did it for months. I ate high cals on my high days the whole time because I knew the next day, a down day, I'd be crazy hungry. We are still dieting regardless of the sleeve. We have to be mindful of carbs, protein, etc and keep those in track with our plans. That's exactly what a diet is. But with the sleeve, we are limited in terms of portions. Thanks for responding though! I appreciate it. Anyone with experience with JUDDD, what are your calories looking like if you are doing JUDDD? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App My response was based on this book and the trial that went along with the book. They found that over time, people didn't eat a lot on their high calorie days because they learned to cope with fewer calories on the low calories days and it carried over. They didn't binge on those days, after they got adjusted to the diet. http://www.healthista.com/fasting-diets-krista-varadyscience-research-studies-52-diets/ Calorie cycling when you calories are already really limited seems pointless. I do think fasting is a great tool. If it helps you, good luck.

@@OKCPirate Yep, that is it basically. With all the information I have on the DEXA he doesn't feel RMR testing is necessary at least not at the every 3 months they recommend for a DEXA. I have dense bones that are getting denser (they were really impressed with that) and my muscle mass is good. My RMR is holding steady at slightly higher than it should be. It is dropping at the normal rate it would drop for anyone who weighs less, I am not suffering and adverse effects of "rapid" weight loss, or a compromised metabolism. He thinks I can just use any BMR calculator in the future and it would be close enough in accuracy that I don't need to be tested. When I get to maintenance I will probably have it checked again, so I can plan my calories accordingly, and to just double check. I think it is important to note, that I don't really work out in the way that people think of working out. I walk, and I lift weights at home but I am not that consistent with the weights. I work from home, my commute is about 20 feet from my bed to my desk. I don't even get the normal level of activity that most people get, because I don't have to leave the house, besides walking the dog there might be stretches of days I don't leave the house (Amazon Prime rocks). So I am not really doing much to keep my RMR up, I am just walking and I am not even walking as much as I was. I do 2 miles a day and that is about it, there were lots of days in Feb and March when it was super cold, and I barely walked a mile. Wow I sound really lazy, but its the truth. I plan on stepping it up though. He is a professor with a leading athletics program so I am going to trust his judgement. I told him the workout I was starting and at what gym it would be at and seems confident I am on the right path.

I guess hit dogs will holler. If you are happy with your choice, you wouldn't have to defend it so hard.

@IrishGermamRN If you read here enough you will find people with 29 or 30 BMIs and eating disorders going out the country for surgery because they would never be approved. No one is talking about you.

Medicaid plans aren't the kind of Healthcare plans we are talking about in this thread. Medicaid is federal. We are talking about individual or family plans that consumers purchase on the Healthcare exchange for the self employed or people who do not have insurance offered by their employer.

@@OKCPirate Basically his logic is my RMR, is normal for my height, weight, age. No reason to keep testing it. The scan provides so much more information, it is more useful. It is also faster. It is four pages of information about your totally body composition. And RMR, is just one number. They suggest DEXA scans for people 4 times a year for people that are training. Metabolism isn't my issue. I will probably do another RMR next year, but not going to bother anymore this year.