JasonSWrench

Hello All! I'm glad to see that there are a few of us having this conversation. I just remet with the surgeon yesterday to discuss a lap-band revision. And I'm experiencing the same insurance issues that DeeTee mentioned. I've had my band for almost 11 years (hard to believe). Basically, my surgeon is treating me like a new patient for surgical purposes. I have to show six months of weight loss supervision, go through a bunch of tests, see the psychologist, talk to the dietician, and so on, and so on. Last time I basically started in July had had the surgery in September. I talked to the surgeon about switching to either the sleeve or the bypass. His recommendation, since I don't have diabetes, was to go with the sleeve. I'd done the research ahead of time and had come to this decision, but it was nice to at least hear the surgeon supporting my basic decision. Like Banded in AZ, I also have experienced esophageal problems, specifically esophageal dilation. Honestly, I didn't know that was even a complication. Admittedly, I had been a bad bander and hadn't had an adjustment in quite some time. The surgeon actually gave me an adjustment yesterday, which was weird, and he took out quite a bit of liquid. Apparently, food was just sitting in my esophagus and slowing getting squeezed through the band for years. I'm also the first to admit that I feel like some kind of band failure. It's like one of the docs in the practice always says, they don't have a lap-band for your brain. I learned how to eat around the band so quickly. Combine that with most of my favorite foods seem to be mushy to begin with, and it just set me up for band problems. Part of me still thinks I should give the lap-band a chance, but then it's been 11 years. My surgeons don't even perform that many lap-bands anymore because of how bad the outcomes research is now. As for those of you who have made the switch, has weight loss been "easier" with the sleeve? I'm primarily worried about long-term weight loss, stretching, and GERD. What are people's experiences? Jason

Well, this week has definitely been an interesting week for me as a whole. Monday, I had a gout flair-up, so I've had problems walking and exercising this week. I've had gout issues since I was 21, and after a decade I still hate my feet. On Tuesday, I started noticing that I was getting some acne around my scalp, which I thought was no big deal. By Wednesday the acne started to appear around my temple and around my eyebrow. Thursday night, the acne started to scab over. Ah-Ha - it's not acne. I did a quick google search for rash with scabs and found out it could be small pox. Realizing the chances of it being small pox was slim to none, I decided to go to my doctor and avoid an internet diagnosis. Luck me - I have shingles. Apparently, some people after undergoing stress (aka Bariatric surgery) will have their body release the dormant chicken pox virus back into their body in a couple of locations. Mine was released on the left side of my head. I'm now on an anti-viral regimen for 7 days. I have to take 4 pills 3x per day. Lucky me!!!!

Well, this week has definitely been an interesting week for me as a whole. Monday, I had a gout flair-up, so I've had problems walking and exercising this week. I've had gout issues since I was 21, and after a decade I still hate my feet. On Tuesday, I started noticing that I was getting some acne around my scalp, which I thought was no big deal. By Wednesday the acne started to appear around my temple and around my eyebrow. Thursday night, the acne started to scab over. Ah-Ha - it's not acne. I did a quick google search for rash with scabs and found out it could be small pox. Realizing the chances of it being small pox was slim to none, I decided to go to my doctor and avoid an internet diagnosis. Luck me - I have shingles. Apparently, some people after undergoing stress (aka Bariatric surgery) will have their body release the dormant chicken pox virus back into their body in a couple of locations. Mine was released on the left side of my head. I'm now on an anti-viral regimen for 7 days. I have to take 4 pills 3x per day. Lucky me!!!!

OK, I'm basically two weeks after my surgery. The first week was basically Water and crystal light. Last week and this was/is EAS Advantage shakes three times a day. That's what I was supposed to be doing. However, I had family here last week and I ended up having to go out to eat with them throughout the week (a personal form of hell). Not only did I not want to look at food, I didn't want to smell food, but I couldn't avoid it because I had to be a good host. I ultimately, ended up having some Soup without anything in it throughout the week (a broth here, a cream of soup there), but I did relatively ok. There were a few times that I know I accidentally ate something within one of the Soups that I shouldn't have eaten (like a pea or an onion sliver). Yesterday, I even broke down and ate a piece of hard-boiled egg. My worry is that I'm actually causing myself harm by adding these little things to my diet, which is supposed to be 3 meal-supplement shakes a day right now. Am I actually causing myself harm, or am I ok with adding a little soft food two weeks after surgery?

In the first five days after my surgery I think I consumed a total of maybe 50 calories. That's what my doc wanted me to do. Now I'm on a two week liquid diet, which totally sucks.

I had shoulder pain for almost 5 days. I was told that moving around and specifically moving your arms and shoulders does help to get rid of it faster.

Tyler: I'm also 3 days post op, and I'm right there with you. The only problem I really have right now is the gas. I've been told that is pretty normal. According to what I've read, the best thing for dealing with the gas is to fart, burp, and walk around. As for the constipation, my surgeon recommended that we take something to help if we didn't have a bowl movement by day 3 after surgery. Jason

Well, I just wanted to let everyone know that I'm officially a bandster!!! After months of hard work, I had my surgery yesterday and I am doing dandy. A little sore, but nothing that I can manage!!! :crying:)

Well, the surgery was yesterday and I did swimmingly. The overall experience was pretty good. My anesthesiologist asked me what I did for a living and I told I'm I was a university professor, and he was like "you're pretty young to be a professor." To which I responded, "You're pretty young to be an anesthesiologist." Come to find out, we're both 32. lol As I was wheeled into the surgery room, he had some modern music playing that we both knew. Unfortunately, that music quickly turned to jazz as the surgeon actually came in (clear generational difference). After the surgery, I was doing pretty good pretty fast. I was up and walking within an hour and a half after surgery. I was just antsy and wanted to walk. I coughed a lot though - I really did not like the intubation - really scratched my throat. While my surgery was at 9AM, I didn't get to leave until around 4. The surgeon had 9 surgeries yesterday, so he was a little busy all day long and couldn't get up to the unit to discharge us. The worst part of the afternoon was going down to x-ray because of the barium. Earlier in my blog I had noted that the barium wasn't that bad tasting - I now totally have to qualify this statement. Apparently, some people are nice enough to give you flavored barium that doesn't taste like ass. Unfortunately, yesterday I received the barium that tasted like ass. The worst part was that I couldn't get the taste out of my mouth no matter how many ounces of water I drank. I finally got it out last night around 8 when I broke down and had some flavored Chrystal light. I can honestly say that my experience yesterday was overall extremely positive. The surgical team, the follow staff, and the hospital personnel were all very helpful. This weekend, I'm on a pretty strict clear liquid diet to let everything settle. Thankfully, I don't feel hungry at all. As my doctor constantly says, "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels."

Well, the surgery was yesterday and I did swimmingly. The overall experience was pretty good. My anesthesiologist asked me what I did for a living and I told I'm I was a university professor, and he was like "you're pretty young to be a professor." To which I responded, "You're pretty young to be an anesthesiologist." Come to find out, we're both 32. lol As I was wheeled into the surgery room, he had some modern music playing that we both knew. Unfortunately, that music quickly turned to jazz as the surgeon actually came in (clear generational difference). After the surgery, I was doing pretty good pretty fast. I was up and walking within an hour and a half after surgery. I was just antsy and wanted to walk. I coughed a lot though - I really did not like the intubation - really scratched my throat. While my surgery was at 9AM, I didn't get to leave until around 4. The surgeon had 9 surgeries yesterday, so he was a little busy all day long and couldn't get up to the unit to discharge us. The worst part of the afternoon was going down to x-ray because of the barium. Earlier in my blog I had noted that the barium wasn't that bad tasting - I now totally have to qualify this statement. Apparently, some people are nice enough to give you flavored barium that doesn't taste like ass. Unfortunately, yesterday I received the barium that tasted like ass. The worst part was that I couldn't get the taste out of my mouth no matter how many ounces of water I drank. I finally got it out last night around 8 when I broke down and had some flavored Chrystal light. I can honestly say that my experience yesterday was overall extremely positive. The surgical team, the follow staff, and the hospital personnel were all very helpful. This weekend, I'm on a pretty strict clear liquid diet to let everything settle. Thankfully, I don't feel hungry at all. As my doctor constantly says, "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels."

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I've gotten my insurance approval and I am now scheduled to have surgery on the 17th of September. I'm excited and nervous all at the same time!!! Jason

Hello All!!! My name is Jason and I am having my surgery on September 17th!!!!! Obviously, I'm really excited and really nervous all at the same time. It's great that there are so many of us on here getting it done this month. Jason

Wow, I really do suck at blogging. A lot has happened since I had my endoscopy. On August 15th, I met with my surgeon (finally), and he thought I was a good candidate for surgery. He was happy that I'd already dropped 20 lbs and thinks I can drop another 10 prior to surgery. He then scheduled me for September 17th. At that point, I was told that it would be a few weeks before I heard anything from my insurance company. To my surprise, the following Saturday I received a letter in the mail saying that my insurance company would cover the lap-band surgery. WOW!!!! My family was like - that was fast - are you worse off than you've been telling us!? I'm now relieved and nervous all at the same time. I can't wait to get the surgery, but scared to death as well, which I guess is pretty normal. To get me prepared for surgery, I bought some children's silverware from Oneida. Ironically, the children's silverware is actually the same size as the small silverware that comes with IKEA silverware sets. Yesterday, I started my two shakes a day routine to lead up to my surgery. Day One went OK, I just ended up eating dinner late (9:00PM), so I thought I was going to gnaw my arm off.

Wow, I really do suck at blogging. A lot has happened since I had my endoscopy. On August 15th, I met with my surgeon (finally), and he thought I was a good candidate for surgery. He was happy that I'd already dropped 20 lbs and thinks I can drop another 10 prior to surgery. He then scheduled me for September 17th. At that point, I was told that it would be a few weeks before I heard anything from my insurance company. To my surprise, the following Saturday I received a letter in the mail saying that my insurance company would cover the lap-band surgery. WOW!!!! My family was like - that was fast - are you worse off than you've been telling us!? I'm now relieved and nervous all at the same time. I can't wait to get the surgery, but scared to death as well, which I guess is pretty normal. To get me prepared for surgery, I bought some children's silverware from Oneida. Ironically, the children's silverware is actually the same size as the small silverware that comes with IKEA silverware sets. Yesterday, I started my two shakes a day routine to lead up to my surgery. Day One went OK, I just ended up eating dinner late (9:00PM), so I thought I was going to gnaw my arm off.

So, here's what's been going on in Lap-Band world for me. Last Thursday I went in for my upper endoscopy. Overall, not a bad experience. They were very nice and the whole thing went very quickly. The last thing I remember was the anesthesiologist saying "This may sting a little" - and I was out. When I woke up 20 minutes later, the nurse assisting my GI was packing up the equipment. He showed me the pictures and my GI came in and told me what she found. Basically, unbeknownst to me, I actually have some serious Gastric Reflux issues. Apparently, she found ulceration and scaring in my lower esophagus. I know I had a little Gastric Reflux occasionally, but usually I would pop a couple of tums and be perfectly fine. She decided to put me on a drug for the Gastric Reflux and I get to go see her again in two months for another upper endoscopy (lucky me!!!). Of course, by the next day I had lots of questions. I called her office and got ahold of one of her office staff who was able to go over the report with me. Thankfully, my GI doesn't think that her findings will prevent me from having the surgery and ultimately when the surgery occurs is something that will be left up to the surgeon. Speaking of the surgeon, I go into finally meet the surgeon tomorrow. I'm just hoping that the GI report gets to him by tomorrow. Other than the GI report, I have flown through every hoop they have sent my way. I should know tomorrow when I'm going to be scheduled for surgery. Of course, getting scheduled for surgery and then getting approved by my insurance company are two unrelated issues. I just find this process a little backwards. I have to go through all the hoops, and then hope that the insurance company goes along with the idea. My surgeon's office has a really good history of getting patients accepted by their insurance companies, but I'm not going to be completely happy until I'm laying in a recovery room.

So, here's what's been going on in Lap-Band world for me. Last Thursday I went in for my upper endoscopy. Overall, not a bad experience. They were very nice and the whole thing went very quickly. The last thing I remember was the anesthesiologist saying "This may sting a little" - and I was out. When I woke up 20 minutes later, the nurse assisting my GI was packing up the equipment. He showed me the pictures and my GI came in and told me what she found. Basically, unbeknownst to me, I actually have some serious Gastric Reflux issues. Apparently, she found ulceration and scaring in my lower esophagus. I know I had a little Gastric Reflux occasionally, but usually I would pop a couple of tums and be perfectly fine. She decided to put me on a drug for the Gastric Reflux and I get to go see her again in two months for another upper endoscopy (lucky me!!!). Of course, by the next day I had lots of questions. I called her office and got ahold of one of her office staff who was able to go over the report with me. Thankfully, my GI doesn't think that her findings will prevent me from having the surgery and ultimately when the surgery occurs is something that will be left up to the surgeon. Speaking of the surgeon, I go into finally meet the surgeon tomorrow. I'm just hoping that the GI report gets to him by tomorrow. Other than the GI report, I have flown through every hoop they have sent my way. I should know tomorrow when I'm going to be scheduled for surgery. Of course, getting scheduled for surgery and then getting approved by my insurance company are two unrelated issues. I just find this process a little backwards. I have to go through all the hoops, and then hope that the insurance company goes along with the idea. My surgeon's office has a really good history of getting patients accepted by their insurance companies, but I'm not going to be completely happy until I'm laying in a recovery room.

Hello to everyone who is actually reading my blog - the whole 3 of you!!!! Thanks for reading!!! OK, I've had a few fun things going on in blog land. On Monday, I finally got to meet with the GI specialist and I'm scheduled to have my endoscopy next Thursday. While I hear the endoscopy isn't bad, I haven't been under anesthesia of any kind since I was like 15 when I had my tonsils taken out. This is the last hoop I have to finish before we can begin the real trek towards getting the lap-band. Today, I went to my surgeon's office and I found out I'm down 11 pounds, so I only have to lose 4 more pounds to put me in the spot my surgeon wants me in before the surgery. Furthermore, since I have finished all of the fun hoops (see previous post), I am finally going to get to meet the surgeon. On August 15th, I will finally get in to see the surgeon who will be performing the operation. Apparently, I'll also get a tentative surgery date that day as well. While this sounds all great, it's far from over. Once I see the surgeon, he will then write the letter to my insurance company explaining that I am a fat bastard (according to one of my students) and need the surgery to make me a skinny bastard. I just feel like I'm going through all of these hoops hoping that I'll get the surgery when at this point who knows what the insurance company will say. Furthermore, my grandmother is hoping to fly to New York for the surgery. I would hate for her to make plans and then have them all dashed against the rocks because the insurance company throws us a major hurdle. Oh well, it's all a game!!!

Hello to everyone who is actually reading my blog - the whole 3 of you!!!! Thanks for reading!!! OK, I've had a few fun things going on in blog land. On Monday, I finally got to meet with the GI specialist and I'm scheduled to have my endoscopy next Thursday. While I hear the endoscopy isn't bad, I haven't been under anesthesia of any kind since I was like 15 when I had my tonsils taken out. This is the last hoop I have to finish before we can begin the real trek towards getting the lap-band. Today, I went to my surgeon's office and I found out I'm down 11 pounds, so I only have to lose 4 more pounds to put me in the spot my surgeon wants me in before the surgery. Furthermore, since I have finished all of the fun hoops (see previous post), I am finally going to get to meet the surgeon. On August 15th, I will finally get in to see the surgeon who will be performing the operation. Apparently, I'll also get a tentative surgery date that day as well. While this sounds all great, it's far from over. Once I see the surgeon, he will then write the letter to my insurance company explaining that I am a fat bastard (according to one of my students) and need the surgery to make me a skinny bastard. I just feel like I'm going through all of these hoops hoping that I'll get the surgery when at this point who knows what the insurance company will say. Furthermore, my grandmother is hoping to fly to New York for the surgery. I would hate for her to make plans and then have them all dashed against the rocks because the insurance company throws us a major hurdle. Oh well, it's all a game!!!:redface:

Some of my friends have suggested that I start writing a blog about my process to get a lap-band, so here goes. My process started in June. One of my friends is going to have a gastric bypass in December, and I promised here that I would go be with her when her surgery happens. In response, she told me that I should look into getting surgery too and she could come be with me. Well, I saw my primary care physician and asked him at what point I should seriously start considering surgery, and he was like - now. I called my insurance and found out what they wanted. I then found all of the bariatric surgeons in my part of New York. Sadly, there were not many at all. In fact, the closest one to me is an hour away. The surgeon who I ultimately went with does not perform gastric bypasses, but is a lap-band guy. I wasn't completely sure what the lap-band was, so I did some investigative work and realized that I really preferred it to the gastric bypass. I called the surgeon's office and scheduled to go to a day-long meeting in early July. I might add, that I hate waiting. On the day of his seminar, we met his team. The morning consisted of the basic educational overview and the afternoon consisted of meeting with the insurance specialist, talking with the dietitian, meeting with a nurse practitioner, and then meeting with the program director. The program director said I would have problems with my insurance company because my BMI was too low, but she said she'd double check and call me the next day. Sure enough, my dream of weight loss surgery was quickly dashed against the rocks. I ultimately ended up spending the entire 4th of July weekend annoyed. On Monday morning, I saw my general practitioner and decided to have them measure. Now, I'm a big boy. I've always said I was 6'4". However, my primary care physician measured me at 6'1" (and no, I did not slouch). I quickly called the insurance specialist and the surgeon's office and told them I was 3 inches shorter than I had told them. By losing those three inches, magically my BMI was above 40. It was the first time in a long time that I was actually excited at being bigger than I thoguht I was. Now, I have a BMI over 40 and one co-morbidity - high blood pressure. I'm pretty happy and keep crossing my fingers that my insurance company will pay for it all. After finding how that I could qualify, I started setting up all of my appointments. Now, my insurance company only requrires that I send in a letter from the surgeon explaining the necessity of the surgery. However, the surgeon has a long list of things he wants to see before he will even see me. I admitedly find this process very strange. Here is my laundry list of things I must complete before I can even meet the surgeon: 1) Have Bloodwork 2) Have upper GI x-ray 3) Get clearance from cardiologist 4) Get letter from primary care physician 5) Get a behavioral evaluation 6) Attend two group meetings 7) Have an endoscopy done 8) Meet with the dietician monthly 9) Loose 5% of my body weight(though I think this is only a requirement by the day I actually do pre-op) 10) Watch an online course about the lap-band surgery. I completely understand why all of this is needed before the surgery, but I'm not completely sure why all of this is necessary before I meet the surgeon. But, like a good little doobie, I've gone through and done everything asked of me. The only thing I'm now waiting on is the endoscopy. I have to go in on Monday to meet the GI guy who will then schedule me for the procedure. I'm hoping to get the endoscopy in the next couple of weeks and then schedule the meeting with the surgeon. I'm a teacher, so I'm trying to get all of the doctor's appointments out of the way before the beginning of the school year. Once I see the surgeon, he will then write the big letter that goes to my insurance company, and then I will have to wait. From what his office has told me, they have a pretty good track record with my insurance company. But, I'll believe it the day I finally get my clearance. I'm admittedly a pessimist, so I'm trying not to get overly excited because I don't want to really set myself up to heartache if I get denied. PS The barium drink for the upper GI was not bad. It's like drinking a flavored water that's a little chalky. I went in thinking it was going to be just horrible tasting, but was realistically plesantly surprised. The Radiologist even turned the monitor towards me so I could watch the liquid going down my esophogus.

Some of my friends have suggested that I start writing a blog about my process to get a lap-band, so here goes. My process started in June. One of my friends is going to have a gastric bypass in December, and I promised here that I would go be with her when her surgery happens. In response, she told me that I should look into getting surgery too and she could come be with me. Well, I saw my primary care physician and asked him at what point I should seriously start considering surgery, and he was like - now. I called my insurance and found out what they wanted. I then found all of the bariatric surgeons in my part of New York. Sadly, there were not many at all. In fact, the closest one to me is an hour away. The surgeon who I ultimately went with does not perform gastric bypasses, but is a lap-band guy. I wasn't completely sure what the lap-band was, so I did some investigative work and realized that I really preferred it to the gastric bypass. I called the surgeon's office and scheduled to go to a day-long meeting in early July. I might add, that I hate waiting. On the day of his seminar, we met his team. The morning consisted of the basic educational overview and the afternoon consisted of meeting with the insurance specialist, talking with the dietitian, meeting with a nurse practitioner, and then meeting with the program director. The program director said I would have problems with my insurance company because my BMI was too low, but she said she'd double check and call me the next day. Sure enough, my dream of weight loss surgery was quickly dashed against the rocks. I ultimately ended up spending the entire 4th of July weekend annoyed. On Monday morning, I saw my general practitioner and decided to have them measure. Now, I'm a big boy. I've always said I was 6'4". However, my primary care physician measured me at 6'1" (and no, I did not slouch). I quickly called the insurance specialist and the surgeon's office and told them I was 3 inches shorter than I had told them. By losing those three inches, magically my BMI was above 40. It was the first time in a long time that I was actually excited at being bigger than I thoguht I was. Now, I have a BMI over 40 and one co-morbidity - high blood pressure. I'm pretty happy and keep crossing my fingers that my insurance company will pay for it all. After finding how that I could qualify, I started setting up all of my appointments. Now, my insurance company only requrires that I send in a letter from the surgeon explaining the necessity of the surgery. However, the surgeon has a long list of things he wants to see before he will even see me. I admitedly find this process very strange. Here is my laundry list of things I must complete before I can even meet the surgeon: 1) Have Bloodwork 2) Have upper GI x-ray 3) Get clearance from cardiologist 4) Get letter from primary care physician 5) Get a behavioral evaluation 6) Attend two group meetings 7) Have an endoscopy done 8) Meet with the dietician monthly 9) Loose 5% of my body weight(though I think this is only a requirement by the day I actually do pre-op) 10) Watch an online course about the lap-band surgery. I completely understand why all of this is needed before the surgery, but I'm not completely sure why all of this is necessary before I meet the surgeon. But, like a good little doobie, I've gone through and done everything asked of me. The only thing I'm now waiting on is the endoscopy. I have to go in on Monday to meet the GI guy who will then schedule me for the procedure. I'm hoping to get the endoscopy in the next couple of weeks and then schedule the meeting with the surgeon. I'm a teacher, so I'm trying to get all of the doctor's appointments out of the way before the beginning of the school year. Once I see the surgeon, he will then write the big letter that goes to my insurance company, and then I will have to wait. From what his office has told me, they have a pretty good track record with my insurance company. But, I'll believe it the day I finally get my clearance. I'm admittedly a pessimist, so I'm trying not to get overly excited because I don't want to really set myself up to heartache if I get denied. PS The barium drink for the upper GI was not bad. It's like drinking a flavored water that's a little chalky. I went in thinking it was going to be just horrible tasting, but was realistically plesantly surprised. The Radiologist even turned the monitor towards me so I could watch the liquid going down my esophogus. :frown:

I forgot to answer the basic question. NO, not all insurance companies expect you to be on a diet for 6 months.

Actually, each company is quite different. My insurance company really only looks for a BMI over 40 and one co-morbidity or a BMI 35-39 with two co-morbidities. Your individual surgeon will probably have someone in her or his office that can help you navigate the insurance obsticles. Obvisouly, it's in the surgeon's best financial interest to help you get the surgery.