Rainbow_Warrior

Yes, I started watching it before I saw your announcement. For anyone who wanted a quick link with searching, go to: http://bit.ly/2vJ9uZf This lists the series (almost) from beginning to end ... it's nearly in order on the FAT DOCTOR Youtube page.

G'day from the east coast of Australia. I joined yesterday and have spent much of the last 16-17 hours familiarising myself with the site and its forums. Tomorrow my time, Monday 4th Sept at NOON, I meet with my surgeon to finalise my gastric sleeve surgery date. (It's Sunday 3rd Sept 2:30pm now, the afternoon of Fathers' Day here. Waiting with bated breath for this exciting 'path to the better future' for me. Regards, Rainbow_Warrior

Hear, hear to that. I was just commenting on Nestles' morality/ethics. I object that most bariatric surgeons and websites put Optifast VLCD shakes up as the recommended ones. This weight of numbers pushing for Optifast masks the fact that Nestle have "bad form" across a lot of the world. How dare they ask $AUD79.95 for 18 sachets of weight loss shake powder when they sell the confectionery (Kit-Kats, lollies and candies) and many the high-fat pre-fabricated meals available in my supermarkets! These evil profiteers will advertise and promote foods that lead to the problems then be on hand to sell a solution.

The other thing that p15535 me off about Nestle selling Optifast to obese and overweight people is the contradiction of morals/ethics. How dare they ask $AUD79.95 for 18 sachets of weight loss shake powder when they sell the confectionery (Kit-Kats, lollies and candies) and many the high-fat pre-fabricated meals available in my supermarkets! These evil profiteers will advertise and promote foods that lead to the problems then be on hand to sell a solution.

I find the whole issue clouded by the "clout" of Nestle. This huge Swiss company has very cloudy ETHICS. I object that most bariatric surgeons and websites put Optifast VLCD shakes up as the recommended ones. This weight of numbers pushing for Optifast masks the fact that Nestle have "bad form" across a lot of the world. Despite the fact that Optifast's shake formula/contents is little different to the competitors' products, they are the #1 in so many recommendations. NUTRITION wise, on most critical ingredients they are pretty much IDENTICAL. The killer is where it hits the wallet. Optifast products are 15% to 40% MORE EXPENSIVE than some mass market competitors. Nestles has a slick website but difficult questions from members go unanswered. I am old enough to remember the food and health scandals of the 1970s and 1980s in Third World countries ... problems exacerbated by Nestle "rewarding" nurses, midwives and health professionals to have new mothers "switch off" to breastfeeding and on to baby formulas DESPITE the exorbitant costs. (Profit over commonsense by Nestle!). I will take this up with my dietician next visit. Unless she or my surgeon can give me good reason, I plan to try the ALDI shakes or Optislim (cheaper competitors by many $$) or Isowhey (the effective value shake my son-in-law used before and after his gastric sleeve op).