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I have to say I think Amy (in a post above) is onto something about it being a vitamin B deficiency. A few months ago I got diligent about taking a B12 supplement again, and now that I think about it, this roof-of-the-mouth pain hasn't happened to me in a long time now. I never liked the sublingual B12, but I found some gummy ones and I am sticking with them, no question.

Just found this thread, which also discusses the problem: http://www.lapbandtalk.com/topic/50170-roof-of-mouth/

I have this occasionally. The best way I can describe it is that it feels like a cramp in the roof of my mouth. It is always with the first thing I put in my mouth in the morning, which is usually Water. Happens when I take the first drink. It's not related to being stuck, at least in in my case. I've had it happen with food before, I remember once it was with a bite of banana. But it's usually with just a drink of water. It is very uncomfortable and it feels like it takes forever to go away, although I would say it only lasts 30 seconds or so. If I touch my tongue to the roof of my mouth, I can feel that the area in question is tightened. It really seems like a muscle cramp to me. Anyway, this March I will have been banded four years, so I have to also agree it's not entubation related. The first time it happened to me was two summers ago. I did mention it to my dentist at my last check-up, only because it had just happened the day before and it was on my mind. He said he'd never heard of it. I'm sorry to hear other people are dealing with it, but am also glad to know I'm not the only one! I've googled and googled and haven't found anything outside this thread.

Dr. Woodman is a total jerk. An asshole, if you will. He did my surgery in March of 08. I had my first fill with him, and after he wouldn't tell me my fill amount (or even what size band he put inside my body!), I switched over to Dr. Weaver. I am self-pay to the tune of almost $20,000, and I am not going to tolerate some holier-than-thou crap from a surgeon who thinks he's better than everybody else. Dr. Weaver is a sweetheart in every way and I couldn't be happier about making the change to her practice. And believe me, I am merely one of MANY who have left Woodman to see Dr. Weaver instead.

Friday April 10th aJoneen..........................0 75 pounds LOST! Bandana....................... 0 92 lbs lost BrandNewLisa............0 80pounds LOST forever!!! evelas5000...................0 50 pounds Lost Desdemona...................0 Fenton...........................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl....................0 85 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril................. .0 55 pounds lost! Kpodski..........................0 Lynnt1215.....................0 NurseNiki......................0 Nycm00........................+2 Yuck! Potatie............................0 120 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend..........0 160 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK.........................0 97 lbs and closing in on 100! Sugarbean....................-1 114 POUNDS LOST !!! Sharona.........................0 stellabella......................-1.6 75 POUNDS LOST! Tess415..........................0 Thin2bme.......................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! WestCoastMom............0 Wishin4...........................0 73 pounds gone!!

aJoneen........................0 75 pounds LOST! Bandana....................... 0 92 lbs lost BrandNewLisa............0 80pounds LOST forever!!! evelas5000...................0 50 pounds Lost Desdemona...................0 Fenton...........................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl..................-1 85 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril................. 0 50 pounds lost! Kpodski........................- 4 Lynnt1215.................0 NurseNiki...................0 Nycm00.......................0 Potatie..........................0 100 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend......0 150 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK.....................-5 97 lbs and closing in on 100! Sugarbean..................-2 112 POUNDS LOST !!! Sharona.......................0 stellabella...................-1.6 75 POUNDS LOST! Tess415......................0 Thin2bme................. 0 100 POUNDS LOST !! WestCoastMom........0 Wishin4......................0 73 pounds gone!! I finally hit the 75 lb. mark!

aJoneen........................-3 75 pounds LOST! Bandana....................... 0 95 lbs lost BrandNewLisa............0 80pounds LOST forever!!! evelas5000..................-3 50 pounds Lost Desdemona...................0 Fenton...........................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl..................0 85 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril................. +1 50 pounds lost! Kpodski........................0 Lynnt1215................. +2 NurseNiki...................0 Nycm00.......................0 Potatie.........................-3 100 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend....-5 150 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK...................0 Sugarbean..................-2 110 POUNDS LOST !! Sharona......................-4 stellabella...............,-.8 HALFWAY TO GOAL! Tess415......................0 Thin2bme............... 0 100 POUNDS LOST !! WestCoastMom........0 Wishin4......................0 73 pounds gone!! Well, it's not much, but at least it's down instead of up! I'll take it!

I had a good week! Woot woot! March 6th aJoneen........................0 75 pounds LOST! Bandana....................... 0 95 lbs lost BrandNewLisa............0 80pounds LOST forever!!! evelas5000..................0 Desdemona...................0 Fenton...........................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl..................0 85 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril.................0 Kpodski........................0 Lynnt1215................. 0 NurseNiki...................0 Nycm00.......................0 Potatie.........................0 100 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend..... 0 150 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK...................0 Sugarbean..................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! Sharona......................0 stellabella...............-2.6 HALFWAY TO GOAL! Tess415......................0 Thin2bme............... 0 100 POUNDS LOST !! WestCoastMom........0 Wishin4......................0 73 pounds gone!!

I think I posted at the exact same time as Teri and my paste of the weigh-ins had her amount from last week rather than this week, so I'm reposting it correctly so the mistake doesn't keep getting reposted by others. aJoneen........................+4 75 pounds LOST! Bandana.......................-2 92 lbs lost BrandNewLisa............-1 80pounds LOST forever!!! evelas5000..................-2 Desdemona...................0 Fenton...........................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl..................-2 80 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril.................0 Kpodski........................1 Lynnt1215.................+ 2 UGH!!! NurseNiki...................0 Nycm00.......................0 Potatie.........................0 100 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend..... 0 150 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK...................-3 Sugarbean..................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! Sharona......................+3 stellabella...............-.2 HALFWAY TO GOAL! Tess415......................0 Thin2bme............... - 2.4 100 POUNDS LOST !! WestCoastMom........0 Wishin4......................4 73 pounds gone!! Kpodski............-1

UGH!!!! aJoneen........................+4 75 pounds LOST! Bandana.......................-2 92 lbs lost BrandNewLisa............-1 80pounds LOST forever!!! evelas5000..................-2 Desdemona...................0 Fenton...........................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl..................-2 80 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril.................0 Kpodski........................1 Lynnt1215.................+ 2 UGH!!! NurseNiki...................0 Nycm00.......................0 Potatie.........................0 100 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend..... 0 150 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK...................-3 Sugarbean..................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! Sharona......................+3 stellabella...............-.2 HALFWAY TO GOAL! Tess415......................0 Thin2bme............... - 2.8 100 POUNDS LOST !! WestCoastMom........0 Wishin4......................4 73 pounds gone!! Kpodski............-1

I just realized I never posted on Friday...oops! 2/20/09 aJoneen.......................+4 75 pounds LOST! Bandana......................-2 92 lbs lost BrandNewLisa..........-1 80pounds LOST forever!!! evelas5000................-2 Desdemona.................0 Fenton.........................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl..................-2 80 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril................0 Lynnt1215...................+ 2 UGH!!! NurseNiki...................0 Nycm00.......................0 Potatie.........................0 100 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend..... 0 150 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK......................-1 Sugarbean..................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! Sharona......................0 stellabella...............-1.6 HALFWAY TO GOAL! Tess415......................0 Thin2bme............... - 2.8 100 POUNDS LOST !! WestCoastMom........0 Wishin4......................4 73 pounds gone!! Kpodski............-1

Not much change, but at least I went down instead of up, so I'm okay with it. aJoneen.......................-1 75 pounds LOST! Bandana......................0 BrandNewLisa............1.3 75 pounds LOST forever!!! evelas5000.................-.5 Desdemona..................0 Fenton........................-3 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl.................. -3 75 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril................0 Lynn1215.....................0 NurseNiki...................0 Nycm00.......................0 Potatie.........................0 100 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend......-3 150 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK......................-2 Sugarbean..................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! Sharona......................0 stellabella...............-.4 HALFWAY TO GOAL! Tess415......................0 Thin2bme................- 2 WestCoastMom........0 Wishin4......................0 Kpodski............-5 BRATZ98363............-77

Hi guys, I haven't posted in forever, but I read the master thread every day. I think I'll join the Friday weigh-in! I had a good week this week and my next goal is to hit onederland by my birthday (3/18). That's 17 lbs in 5.5 weeks; I think I can do it. FEBRUARY 6TH aJoneen.......................-1 75 pounds LOST! BrandNewLisa............0 evelas5000.................0 Desdemona..................0 Fenton........................-3 100 POUNDS LOST !! HarleyGirl.................. -3 75 pounds LOST! Hopeinapril................0 Lynn1215.....................0 NurseNiki...................0 Nycm00.......................0 Potatie.........................0 100 POUNDS LOST!! Scrappy_Friend........0 150 POUNDS LOST!!!! SpecialK......................0 Sugarbean..................0 100 POUNDS LOST !! Sharona......................0 stellabella...............-3.4 HALFWAY TO GOAL! Tess415......................0 Thin2bme...................0 WestCoastMom........0 Wishin4......................0

Hi, I had my band placed by Dr. Woodman in March of last year and I feel the same way about him that you do. The only way I know to get around his bedside manner is to do what I did- change doctors! Seriously, I know that sounds drastic, but I paid out of pocket nearly 20K for this surgery and I do not have to be treated that way. He wouldn't even tell me what size band he put in me, much less fill amounts. He is just an uncaring person, I think. After my 6 week post-op visit with him, I decided to move on. I've been seeing Dr. McGrath-Weaver since last July and she is wonderful! HTH!

1. SpecialK .............................3/17/08........11/3/08............70 lbs 2. scrappy_friend .....................3/17/08........9/4/08............54.0 lbs 3. aJoneen.............................. 3/04/08........9/4/08............31.0 lbs 4. WestCoastMom..................... 3/27/08........9/4/08............60.0 lbs 5. julietj1970............................ 3/03/08........9/4/08............40 lbs 6. SugarBean........................... 3/24/08........9/4/08............88 lbs 7. Tess415................................3/10/08........10/808............65 lbs 8. jegtlf.....................................3/24/08........9/5/08............56lbs 9. emmersglue ..........................3/18/08........9/5/08............48lbs 10. lglenn3000............................3/17/08........10/4/08............32 lbs 11. Busy....................................3/17/08........9/6/08............41 lbs. 12. tp78.....................................3/13/08........9/25/08............44lbs. 13.potatie..................................3/27/08........10/26/08...........72lbs 14. TKT2FLY...............................3/17/08........9/14/08...........63lbs 15. MSBoss08...............................3/06/08........9/17/08..........64lbs 16. Hazel-Eyes............................3/14/08........10/8/08...........33 lbs 17. hungry4help............................3/3/08...........9/18/08........65lbs 18. sisterc..................................3/17/08..........9/18/08........28 lbs 19. Anniedub...............................3/6/08............9/26/08........55 lbs 20. wishin4.................................3/26/08..........9/26/08........48 lbs 21. AuntLucy...............................3/10/08.........9/26/08........64 lbs 22. nycm00.................................3/24/08.........9/25/08........60lbs. 23.Desdemona............................3/19/08........10/03/08........58lbs. 24. stellabella............................3/26/08........11/3/08..........56 lbs.

The evil side of all that is, now I'm drawn to apple juice. I could never stand the stuff before, and now it's what I want to drink most of the time. So it is my new indulgence. You may already know this, but Wal-Mart has an apple flavored generic Crystal Light in their Great Value brand. It is wonderful! It tastes very much like real apple juice, it's the same color and everything. The only thing that's missing is all that sugar that no one needs anyway. HTH!

You are exactly right! All he wants to do is tell you you are eating too much fat, it's always "too much fat" with him, although I know that is not (nor has it ever been) my problem. He understands nothing about the reality of being obese. Some people just can't lose weight while eating any carbs at all, even if they are low in fat. He just doesn't get it. Yes, Dr. McGrath-Weaver is at St. Francis, and get a load of her patient reviews (they read a little differently than his, lol): Bariatric Surgeon Profile - Virginia McGrath-Weaver M.D. Something to look forward to! In the meantime I think I'll let him roll right off my back and continue to have Kelly keep me informed of my fill amounts. (It appears we have hijacked your thread, Gina- sorry!)

Yes, I definitely think his surgical skills are much better than his people skills. I actually read a lot of patient reviews (I found them here if you're interested: Bariatric Surgeon Profile - George Woodman, M.D. ) before I decided on him, so I knew what I was getting into regarding his bedside manner when I made the choice. Apparently he is a proctor for the Lap Band surgery though, and I feel like anyone who the manufacturer of the band has chosen as a faculty member to teach other doctors how to do the procedure, has to be someone worth trusting in the OR. Plus, his practice is a Center of Excellence and all that too. So I would definitely choose him all over again to do my actual surgery. But I think I have decided (just since my 6 week appt. last week) that when my first year is up, I'm switching my after care to Dr. McGrath-Weaver. Dr. Woodman won't even tell you what size band you have :eek:, nor will he share with you the fill volume he puts in your band. (There is at least one member of his staff who is willing to tell you when he's "not looking", but that's beside the point!) I am 100% self pay, to the tune of almost $20K, and I just don't think that's right. And then there's his attitude on top of that. My visits for the first full year are all included in the sx cost, so I'll probably stay with him until then, but I just can't see paying him more money after that point for him to keep me in the dark and treat me like I'm an idiot. It would be great if he was doing the surgeries and he had another doc doing all the aftercare in his clinic, because he does not belong with people who are conscious! :thumbup:

Hi Gina, or should I say neighbor! I live in Jackson, TN, so I'm just "down the road" from you. Are you using Dr. Woodman by any chance? He did my sx; I was banded 3/26 of this year. Just had my first fill last Thursday. He's not the sweetest piece of chocolate in the box, I can tell you that. Anyway, nice to meet you, and congratulations on starting your journey!

No, they are in separate practices. I only know about Dr. Woodman's prices- he charges $250 for the "program fee" which includes the support group and such. If your insurance is covering your surgery, I don't know what fill prices are, but if you're self-pay like me, all fills and other office visits for the first year after surgery are included in the surgery price. They told me that after the first year, I would pay $100 for a fill along with $45 for the office visit fee. So a fill/visit would actually be $145 after the first year. My out-of-pocket cost for the surgery (including everything except pre-op tests, which my insurance did cover) was $18,500. He just did my surgery last week- I posted on your other thread too. Hope this helps!

Dr. Woodman did my surgery just last week. Last Wednesday 3/26, to be exact. He is an excellent surgeon (I did my research before deciding on him), but his bedside manner leaves a little to be desired. All in all, though, I'd rather be in the hands of someone who's qualified rather than personable, so I'd choose him all over again. My surgery went off without a hitch and I've had no other problems as of yet. Hope this helps!

Wow, that must have taken some time! Thanks for putting it up there for us! You deserve a dollop of lite cool whip on top of your Protein shake today! :thumbup:

I have ordered from them for years. I can only speak to the Wonder Slim Protein shakes and bars, but I can honestly say they taste wonderful! My most successful attempts at weight loss in the past have been using these products as part of a modified fast (drink shakes for Breakfast & lunch, one lean/green meal at night). I have literally survived on these shakes and bars for months on end (several times), which I could never have done if they tasted nasty. I actually just got a new order in the other day to get ready for my full liquid stage post-op (being banded on Wednesday). My favorite flavors in the shakes are chocolate & mocha, but I also like the chocolate mint pretty well. The vanilla and the strawberry are great too, I just don't reach for those flavors as often because they're not my favorites. The Protein Bars are excellent too, my favorites right now are the oatmeal cinnamon raisin, chocolate chip cookie dough, double chocolate, and chocolate mint. They really do taste like candy bars! I have actually used them as a "treat" before instead of a candy bar and they are quite satisfying to the sweet tooth. I'm not going to list all the nutritional facts here, because you can see them on their website, but they are high protein, low fat, low calorie, good choices. And no, I'm not affiliated with them at all, just a happy customer! HTH!