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So, that topic/thread is in Time-Out? Good idea!

My Pcp said the same but my bariatric doc immediately recommended the band for me. Pcp's are not the experts in this field. Imo Tmf

"I think a lot of surgeons jumped in looking for easy money and not thinking of the long term maintenance. I think a lot of people jumped on board because A-it worked, and B-it's a relatively easy procedure, again, not thinking of the long term commitment needed. We are now seeing the results and complications from this. It's not a bad surgery, for the right people, but I do think it got pushed hard for not necessarily the best reasons and now we're seeing that taper off to a more normal level." I'm reading a backhanded compliment here . By comparison it's not nearly as egregious as some of the others but still, it reads, oh the band is good, but! I don't think it was malicious or intentional and I'm not one who wants all other forum members to go away. I'm sure she has much to offer and welcome her and all others with open arms. tmf

Why would you want to do that? You only confirm your own insecurity posting like this? We don't care what surgery you choose. Why go out of your way to disparage my choice? Isn't this supposed to be a support site? Where's the love?

Let me throw my $.02 in. While there are lapband failures lapband patients can revise to other surgeries. The sleeve appears to be a good option for those who did not find success with the band. The band is not out by any means.

I remember seeing her posts but I don't remember much beyond that. Did you mean Indigogirl55? I just searched for her and she hasn't posted for about 2 years.

I was on my own forum fluffy. Wise up.

Yeah, I'm outta here too. Too much anger to deal with.

Because the studies and articles were obviously self selected to put the band in a dim light. And I really don't want to waste time dissecting the studies/articles as only one was semi legit. There are other studies available with many more subjects and are more recent that place the band in a much more favorable light. Still, even if the band were only 50% successful, it would still be a better choice than my 100% failure at dieting. I'll take 50% success over 100% failure any day. I struggle to understand why other WLS forums find it necessary to post on the band site with disparaging remarks? It's supposed to be a support group and continuously pointing out failures and propping up their own surgery isn't support. It seems that other forum members believe we're brainwashed morons who have been coerced into believing the band is a panacea. I assure you, this is not the case(most of the time). There are some lousy surgeons out there and I doubt they only perform banding surgeries.

Yes, there are some issues with having the band. Not all people have slips after a hurling session but it does happen. We speak about the issues all the time on the forum so it's really not necessary for other forums to comment on them. Of course you all have the right to post your comments but when you do, you sound sanctimonious about your decision to not be banded.

Who is going to your forum and slamming the sleeve? If this was done on the band forum maybe you could educate the banders with a little of your knowledge since none of us have ever been banded? Seems like a lot of hate coming from the other forums directed at the band forum?

No problem with educating us re sleeve just try not to educate us on our "bad" choice re the band. Ask questions? Be curious? Please don't post studies dismissing the band as a failed WLS. We have studies and history/experiences to support otherwise. Ive never had sleeve surgery so I wont pass judgement on your choices.

Yet, you still couldn't help yourself from taking a shot? Yeah, let's all be friends?

Agree with the others. food addiction is so different from other addictions. Nicotine and illegal drugs one can live without, but food is all around us and is a must to survive. Many people do not understand this and I'd gander a guess that many of those folks are obese themselves.

Thanks for the reasoned comment. Just keep in mind that of all the different options with WLS, this is the only surgery where the patient has the option of revising(99%/time) to pre band or one of 4 other WLS options. Therefore it's easy to come to this forum and compare. You won't see many bandsters on any other forum stating the bypass didn't work so now they're banded? This is why so many people choose the band.

I never thought about the band this way but it sure makes sense. food addiction can make people do some crazy things. With the other WLS options a patient has no choice but with the band, they can avoid fills or be completely unfilled and carry on their addicted lives forever. That would certainly skew the success/failure %. tmf

Don't believe everything your surgeon tells you. Surgeons make so much more money from a sleeve or bypass, so profit can taint there conclusions/recommendations.

I've been in my doctor's office once in the last year. That's quite typical so I don't think it's interfering with my life at all.

Very normal. I lost 12 lbs the first 2 weeks and then nothing for the next 3.5 months. After my 3rd fill and my nut consult, I started losing weekly. I've been here for years and the story is the same for many bandsters. Until you get the fill that gives you restriction/satiety it's just a diet. I had to be assertive for my fills. Sometimes only 3 weeks apart. tmf

Fun isn't it?

To answer your topic question, yes, plateaus are very common and it's not really a plateau unless you go 4 weeks with no weight loss and your clothes fit the same? If your clothes are looser, you're probably replacing fat loss with muscle and it's not a plateau.

Sorry, I don't understand "net calories"? Just need to know total calories in per day?

"I finally left the second surgeon and signed on with the top bariatric surgery in the state. It means I travel 2.5 hours one way for all my appointments but she is great. She won't please lap band because she says there's a50 percent failure rate. Some resurgent and some bands intolerance (which is what I developed with Mr second band because my first band was slipped for so long). She also said most people with a band suffer psychological trauma as well as physical trauma. She was the first to acknowledge to me what I was suffering. I am now having the band out Dec 6th and if all looks good inside she will do the bypass at the same time. She offered too do the sleeve but with my band issues there's a chance I wouldn't tolerate the restrictive feeling of it plus many people have too be revised from sleeve to bypass so I opted to stick with bypass which is the gold standard procedure. If I was you I would stick to your guns. If something doesn't feel right it probably. Don't be afraid to find another surgeon either. Best of luck to you. Dara" There is not a 50% failure rate with the band! Your current doc sounds like a money grubbing quack!

How many calories do you consume? How many do you burn a day? What is your personal daily caloric needs to maintain your current weight?

Who is your doc? Mine is Frank Chae at Skyridge Highlands Ranch?