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@@CowgirlJane How MUCH does your hunger return? Are you just hungry at or maybe a little befote meal times like a normal, not dieting person, (who makes smart choices and is naturally thin) or are you "kinda hungry all the time but not as bad as dieting without sleeve" How is SATIETY? How long are you full between meals? Do protine shakes keep you feeling satisfied? Before sleeve were you obese your whole like? Does one piece of cake on someone's birthday leave you craving cake and junk for a week?

Also: Can you stop "slider foods" from sliding by, say, eating a bite of chicken? Like (this might sound weird, I know nothing about it) say you want a muffin top but want to stop yourself going overboard and wanna make sure it lasts till your next meal... Could a bite of protoine act as... I dunno. A plug?

So, from what I hear from people years into it: you DO get hungrier as time goes on? Does your body learn to make more ghrelin or are your hungry empty fat cells sending the starvation signal to make you eat more? I can see a problem of "getting lazy and instead of counting out 17 potatoe chips for a serving you take "a handful" and then it becomes "a large handful" and then it's "a bowl" and then it's a bag... And then you're at costco buying the big box with 30 smaller bags and you're in BIG trouble now because you have 30 bags of chips on your house!!! I can see that happening. That is where diligence and being mindful and learning new habits is important... But it is not what I am afraid of. From what people have said I am afraid that you eat 1 egg, 1 piece of bacon, and a slice of tomato for Breakfast and feel full and energized all morning.... ...until suddenly a few years down the road you just DON'T. One day it just doesn't cut it anymore and you're hungry before lunch.... You HAVE to up it to 2 eggs (or whatever is the step up from where you have been) or you'll be hungry before your next meal. Your eating hasn't changed but now it's not enough any more, and/or (even worse) now you gain on the same food! Is this what happens? Or is it more like the less scary (but still a genuine problem!) chip scenario?

There is a study saying people tend to gain a lot of weight back by 5 years. And other studies say that most people gain at least -some- weight back at some point. Why is this? You would think that if it was old bad habits returning then the longer you have had the new healthy habits the more sticking power they would have (not less). Is it the body fighting the weight loss like they mentioned in the biggest loser article? Do you adjust to the low levels of ghrelin and so a tiny amount starts making you feel hungry again? This concept is scary to me...

*Shyly pokes in head* Uh... Hi, guys. Not sure I belong here but I am in the considering stages... I am 5'8" and weigh 315 lbs, 36 years old. I have been heavy since early childhood. I was 285 in highschool Plus size clothes all my life. I joined weight watchers in 2008 and went from 349 down to 279 I quit due to lack of money and slowly regained to 313 Rejoined and lost down to 265 Then sorta got stuck And slowly regained. For someone like me (very learge and has been since early childhood) I doubt WW will get me lower then 250... At best. I started looking into a surgical option just recently. (I would continue to do weight watchers, in theory, because the program works for me- in my life it is the only program that ever has) Here are by biggest concerns: *regaining weight 5 or more years down the road. In some studies this has been a major problem! (I understand you need to eat healthy, count points or calories, or macro nutrients, whichever you do that works for you to keep you in track. I understand a cup of food can still pack on pounds if that cup is ice cream. That said I also don't intend to never-ever eat treats again. Like weight watchers I was hoping to fit in a reasonable treat here and there.) *satiety. That is what I am really looking for! I can have a relatively small meal (say, a piece of toast with an egg and a few slices of tomato) and feel temporarily full as long as I drink enough Water and coffee with it. But I will be hungry again in an hour or two!!! Starving and climbing the walls by lunch! I am really hoping for smaller amounts of food to have STICKING POWER! If an apple with Peanut Butter could fill my tummy could it actually KEEP ME full for a decent amount of time? And this is years down the road, not just the first year. I understand for a few months you are just not hungry due to lack of a hormone (gremlin? Sounds like gremlin). Does this stay? If you splurge and have a muffin for Breakfast will it hold you till lunch? (Years down the road). *slowing metabolism due to "starvation mode" *also "starvation mode" trying to conserve energy making me feel tired, or less likely to move around. * feeling tired, low energy (I am a very high energy person. Yesterday I was playing in the rain, laughing and jumping and dancing, and I swear I was sober, I just like rain and tend to be a high energy person. I am afraid a slowing matabolism and less nutrients will make me less energetic or playful) *getting enough water They say don't drink with meals... They say don't use a straw. Tummy being too small to hold enough water. * stupid and vain but: loose skin (especially in the double chin area, because that is my FACE. at least the others can be hidden with clothes.)