Foods and dumping syndrome

[Rolltide87 62]

(sleeved 11/15/2019) TMI I know ... But does anyone have dumping syndrome with anything they eat ?! Anything I eat, my body is like NOPE and dumping happens.. I eat only certain foods because most things make me nauseous so I'm only eating like grilled chicken and some veggies (ones I can handle ) and my body still dumps everything... I've told my surgeon and the nurse said to just keep track of what I eat. I have. And I do. They also don't know why a lot of foods make me extremely sick.. anyone else have this issue ?!

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[Letsdoooooothis 5]

I luckily have never experienced dumping syndrome. What have you tried that causes it? Do you try it again after a few weeks?

[Krestel 329]

From what Ive heard, it's rather unusual for sleeve peeps but not unheard of. For us RNY it's par for course. Ive got a pouch if steel and still manage to dump. It is not the most pleasant thing in the world, and when it happens after some cafeteria lunch at work, I absolutely hate it.

[catwoman7 10,844]

true dumping syndrome is pretty rare in sleevers - it happens when too much sugar hits your small intestine at one time. It's more rare in sleevers because you guys still have an intact pyloric valve. Only about 30% of RNY'ers dump - I don't know about the percentage of sleevers, but it's very low. Dumping can be controlled by limiting or avoiding sugar.

I'm not a dumper, but I know people who do have it experience severe diarrhea, sweating, flushing, and rapid heartbeat. I know it can go on for a long time.

if you're just vomiting, there may be something else going on. Are you eating too fast? Does everything make you vomit, or are there certain food triggers? I'm guessing that's why the nurse is having you track everything that makes you vomit, so they can see if there's some sort of pattern there. If not, I wonder if there's something like a stricture (those are a lot more common in RNY'ers, though). Otherwise, boy - I don't know. I hope they'll be able to figure it out - you must be miserable!

Edited May 5, 2020 by catwoman7

[Loz77 12]

Yep, I get it. I understand a lot of people believe it is either sugar, fat or carbs,,,,,,but my body does it with lots of things, and I get the exact symptoms catwoman7 mentioned above......plus severe cramps and it all happens within 10-20 minutes of eating. I've been having better days recently, I am 11 weeks out today. I get it with food I have eaten before and have been okay with. I have been told I just have to ride it out......other than low potassium and continual dehydration my surgery/insides are perfect! You are certainly not alone! Loz

[WInston223322 160]

Stop the chicken - Seems this little bird causes problems. My view is to switch up your diet. For example go 3 days just seafood, shrimp crab soft fish. See how you do then/ Then do 3 days of just pork - shredded chunked ribs. then 3 days of beef , Chili, steak, tacos/

I am sleeved also and certain foods cause issues. It took me time to get my body used to certain foods. ALSO no sauces oils and limited seasonings.

You will get it but you have to learn the type of foods you can handle, the speed you eat, and do not mix liquids and solids till you get the trick to it

[Rolltide87 62]

From what Ive heard, it's rather unusual for sleeve peeps but not unheard of. For us RNY it's par for course. Ive got a pouch if steel and still manage to dump. It is not the most pleasant thing in the world, and when it happens after some cafeteria lunch at work, I absolutely hate it.

I've been one of the very lucky ones that have been sleeved, to experience a lot of stuff that others have not after being sleeved ! My surgeons nurse has done blood work a couple times and everything is normal. I explained my symptoms and she believed it was dumping syndrome as well. Right after surgery I was kept for 3 days and had horrible muscle cramps that morphine didn't even touch. So I've literally been the lucky one to experience everything others have not

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[Rolltide87 62]

I luckily have never experienced dumping syndrome. What have you tried that causes it? Do you try it again after a few weeks?

Anything. And everything . The only food I can keep from kicking out is grilled chicken and that's it. No idea.

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[Rolltide87 62]

true dumping syndrome is pretty rare in sleevers - it happens when too much sugar hits your small intestine at one time. It's more rare in sleevers because you guys still have an intact pyloric valve. Only about 30% of RNY'ers dump - I don't know about the percentage of sleevers, but it's very low. Dumping can be controlled by limiting or avoiding sugar.
I'm not a dumper, but I know people who do have it experience severe diarrhea, sweating, flushing, and rapid heartbeat. I know it can go on for a long time.
if you're just vomiting, there may be something else going on. Are you eating too fast? Does everything make you vomit, or are there certain food triggers? I'm guessing that's why the nurse is having you track everything that makes you vomit, so they can see if there's some sort of pattern there. If not, I wonder if there's something like a stricture (those are a lot more common in RNY'ers, though). Otherwise, boy - I don't know. I hope they'll be able to figure it out - you must be miserable!

The only time I don't have the whole 'body kicking it out' type thing, is when I eat grilled chicken. My surgeons nurse took blood multiple times and nothing came up unusual and said my symptoms were dumping syndrome. Although, in self research, I found I had the same symptoms as reactive hypoglycemia. I've had either extremely rare difficulties, even since I had surgery in the hospital, or I've had unheard of symptoms that no one can pinpoint with a sleever. It's awful and I feel lost to be honest.

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[catwoman7 10,844]

5 hours ago, Rolltide87 said:

The only time I don't have the whole 'body kicking it out' type thing, is when I eat grilled chicken. My surgeons nurse took blood multiple times and nothing came up unusual and said my symptoms were dumping syndrome. Although, in self research, I found I had the same symptoms as reactive hypoglycemia. I've had either extremely rare difficulties, even since I had surgery in the hospital, or I've had unheard of symptoms that no one can pinpoint with a sleever. It's awful and I feel lost to be honest.

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I have reactive hypoglycemia, so I can relate! I'm so sorry you're going through this - my heart goes out to you..

[S@ssen@ch 745]

15 hours ago, catwoman7 said:

true dumping syndrome is pretty rare in sleevers - it happens when too much sugar hits your small intestine at one time. It's more rare in sleevers because you guys still have an intact pyloric valve. Only about 30% of RNY'ers dump - I don't know about the percentage of sleevers, but it's very low. Dumping can be controlled by limiting or avoiding sugar.

This ^

I have had episodes after I eat something unusually high in sugar. One of two things happens: either I feel TERRIBLE (a little nauseated, maybe a little cold sweats) and need to lie down or me and the become pals! You learn really quickly to go easy on the sugar/sweets.

Other than that, I can't say as I have any foods that I cannot eat or that my body rejects.

[Rolltide87 62]

Yep, I get it. I understand a lot of people believe it is either sugar, fat or carbs,,,,,,but my body does it with lots of things, and I get the exact symptoms catwoman7 mentioned above......plus severe cramps and it all happens within 10-20 minutes of eating. I've been having better days recently, I am 11 weeks out today. I get it with food I have eaten before and have been okay with. I have been told I just have to ride it out......other than low potassium and continual dehydration my surgery/insides are perfect! You are certainly not alone! Loz

So glad I'm not alone ! Yes! My body will do it with almost everything . And it's not an everyday thing either. Some days I am super sick from anything I eat.. and other days I feel fine and it doesn't happen. And my Dr doesn't know what it could be.

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[Rolltide87 62]

Stop the chicken - Seems this little bird causes problems. My view is to switch up your diet. For example go 3 days just seafood, shrimp crab soft fish. See how you do then/ Then do 3 days of just pork - shredded chunked ribs. then 3 days of beef , Chili, steak, tacos/
I am sleeved also and certain foods cause issues. It took me time to get my body used to certain foods. ALSO no sauces oils and limited seasonings.
You will get it but you have to learn the type of foods you can handle, the speed you eat, and do not mix liquids and solids till you get the trick to it

Thank you so much ! I'm glad you posted this because i haven't though about trying those foods. I'm actually going to get that stuff and try it out! I really appreciate it !

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[WInston223322 160]

As a chef you change enjoy the new stuff

[Kikikiki 13]

On 5/6/2020 at 12:05 AM, catwoman7 said:

I have reactive hypoglycemia, so I can relate! I'm so sorry you're going through this - my heart goes out to you..

Hi! Can you tell me what reactive hypoglycaemia is and how you deal with it?