No F#$ckin BMI Way

[ms.sss 14,637]

5 minutes ago, Healthy_life2 said:

I’m not sure if somatotype is accurate – I qualified as endomorph at my higher weight. With weight loss I am a mesomorph

Same, I too was classified as Endomorph at my higher weight. That quiz says I'm between and Ecto and Meso now. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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42 minutes ago, ms.sss said:

It's funny because for the past 15 years, I've been claiming large frame/big bones as well.

I just made some measurements and apparently I'm small framed:

5'2" female: 5.25 inch wrist circumference, 2 inch elbow breath

Lol I've been claiming it since I was a teenager but now near 60 finally know it's true, made my day. I've also been using it for my kids too, the are not overweight but the scale #s have always been higher than they appeared. My girls are 5'8" and my boys are 6'4" and 6'5" I am thrilled with the validation

[Serengirl 176]

On 12/16/2019 at 4:40 AM, AJ Tylo said:

This is the results

or the information you entered:

Height: 6 feet, 2 inches

Weight: 245 pounds

Your BMI is 31.5, indicating your weight is in the Obese category for adults of your height.

For your height, a normal weight range would be from 144 to 194 pounds.

People who are overweight or obese are at higher risk for chronic conditions such as high blood pressure, diabetes, and high cholesterol.

Anyone who is overweight should try to avoid gaining additional weight. Additionally, if you are overweight with other risk factors (such as high LDL cholesterol, low HDL cholesterol, or high blood pressure), you should try to lose weight. Even a small weight loss (just 10% of your current weight) may help lower the risk of disease. Talk with your healthcare provider to determine appropriate ways to lose weight.

For information about the importance of a healthy diet and physical activity in reaching a healthy weight, visit Healthy Weight.

BMI Healthy Weight

BMI	Weight Status
Below 18.5	Underweight
18.5—24.9	Normal
25.0—29.9	Overweight
30.0 and Above	Obese

MY brother its your height and is considered skinny (resting metabolic rate of over 4000 cals a day- I know its nuts and soooooo unfair but he was tested several times. Anyway, he can eat ANYTHING and stay the same slender weight. Which goes far to speak of how your body has a set point. Back to my point. He weights 183 to 184 on average. He is trying to build more muscle now so muscle weighs more than fat. Right now he has more of that hipster thin look and folks comment on how slender he is. By the BMI chart he is at the TOP of the weight for that height. Which is nuts if you saw him. You'd be like no frigging way should you lose weight, so everyone is different ya know? But as tall as you both are I think if you are just under 200 you'll probably look great and if you build muscle you will definitely be over 200. If my brother was 145 Id check him into the hospital- for real.

[elcee 3,340]

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[elcee 3,340]

It would be interesting to see what the insurance companies take on this is. They have presumably paid a lot of money for people to have this surgery to help them get to a healthy weight range. I wonder if they would be happy paying that money out if they knew people were going to give up before they got there.

Yes BMI maybe flawed but until we have something better to replace it it works quite well. People forget it is a range. and the range is quite vast which allows for “ big” bones. The exceptions seem to be elite athletes that have lots of muscle, I’m guessing that most of us here are not in that category.

Choosing a goal weight is hard and it needs to be something that is healthy and makes you happy. It shouldn’t be something that is chosen based on fear and other people’s perceptions. If we stopped losing weight because other people told us we were getting too skinny most of us would still be in the overweight range!

[summerset 5,261]

7 minutes ago, elcee said:

They have presumably paid a lot of money for people to have this surgery to help them get to a healthy weight range.

Insurance companies don't pay for it "to help you". They pay for it to lower their expenses in the long run when it comes to obesity related issues. People don't have to be a normal weight to cause less costs so some clerk at some insurance company couldn't care less if someone reaches a BMI of 30.2612 or 23.1524 when an EWL of maybe 50% only improves health quite a lot, therefore reducing expenses on medication or e. g. diabetes related complications, including not healing wounds and/or dialysis.

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I wonder if they would be happy paying that money out if they knew people were going to give up before they got there.

Maybe the people outside of the WLS community have a more realistic view on what can be expected and what not than the patients themselves anyway. Don't you think insurance company clerks aren't aware of the possible outcomes (including the less favorable ones) numerous studies suggest?!

[Serengirl 176]

On 12/16/2019 at 5:49 AM, lvidacovich said:

I'm going to be happy to get to overweight status. Anything under 210 on my frame will make me look like a cancer patient. BMI is crap and I've said that for a long time.

Totally I have seen people your height around 200 and their tummy is flat as a board. Yes they have muscle but each persons body is different.

[summerset 5,261]

I sometimes get the impression BMI of 24.9 or less is a WLS related fetish.

[FluffyChix 17,409]

1 hour ago, summerset said:

I sometimes get the impression BMI of 24.9 or less is a WLS related fetish.

Agree to disagree.

All of my doctors are completely thrilled with my weight, BMI, and the maintenance window I've set. I love food as much as the next person, but I recognize that I will always need to be on metabolic guard against regain. This isn't magic bean surgery.

And I was always told I had "big bones" from my mom. But the reality was, I was MO from age 9. Sobering and sad. Turns out I'm a PERFECT candidate for a BMI chart, cuz I am just boringly average build - medium/average frame. LOL. I was just FAT and still love to eat. So I'm retraining my fat brain to keep me between 22-25BMI.

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On 12/16/2019 at 14:46, Healthy_life2 said:

@AJ Tylo

118 pounds is fantastic.

It does not matter where any of us land on the BMI chart or fat% chart. Resolve your medical issues and live a healthy life. Find a weight you feel comfortable maintaining long term.

Many of us lose/burn muscle with rapid weight loss. You will look healthier after your weight stabilizes. (adding carbs/calories in maintenance) The comments “skeletal” “cancer patient”” too thin” are not helpful. It’s hard enough to deal with rapid weight loss. No need to cause more body dysmorphia issues.

Just an observation on this site over the years.

Most of us are accustomed to seeing ourselves at our high weight. It’s a shock to see your face and body changing. Do you see other people at your weight as too thin? Do you see others at a overweight/normal BMI as too thin?

This!!!! I look at pictures of others on here that are similar weight and height and think they look better (healthier, fitter, thinner) than me because I still don’t see myself as a “normal” weight. I also try to remind myself that I am carrying around a few extra pounds of skin that someone who was never overweight would have so my BMI isn’t accurate.
I also have found that with only a 2-3 pound loss over the past few months (purposely trying to maintain now) that my body looks much different than 3 months ago since things are shifting around re muscle loss, filled in cheeks, flatter stomach etc.

[Darktowerdream 419]

8 hours ago, summerset said:

I sometimes get the impression BMI of 24.9 or less is a WLS related fetish.

Odd choice of words. I’ve spent most of my life being the fat kid, the obese kid, my height and smaller frame I want to achieve a healthy weight and BMI. Seems odd to call it a fetish to want to reach it and stay there. For me healthy BMI is between 18-24. I guess saying it’s a fetish to want to reach a certain BMI makes me think of people in my life who said I obsessed over my weight too much. Or called it an eating disorder l but when you are up against metabolic disorders, and disability you want to fight to have some part of yourself that you can make right or normal. (Probably am too tired to be answering posts right now ....) but there is a reason for BMI charts or calculations and many allow for height weight, bone structure, even age and Cleveland clinic includes waist size. And there is a range. It’s a guideline for health. To know when you ever off and can get back on.

[elcee 3,340]

2 hours ago, Darktowerdream said:

Odd choice of words. I’ve spent most of my life being the fat kid, the obese kid, my height and smaller frame I want to achieve a healthy weight and BMI. Seems odd to call it a fetish to want to reach it and stay there. For me healthy BMI is between 18-24. I guess saying it’s a fetish to want to reach a certain BMI makes me think of people in my life who said I obsessed over my weight too much. Or called it an eating disorder l but when you are up against metabolic disorders, and disability you want to fight to have some part of yourself that you can make right or normal. (Probably am too tired to be answering posts right now ....) but there is a reason for BMI charts or calculations and many allow for height weight, bone structure, even age and Cleveland clinic includes waist size. And there is a range. It’s a guideline for health. To know when you ever off and can get back on.

Well said!

[AJ Tylo 1,398]

10 hours ago, FluffyChix said:

This isn't magic bean surgery.

Sorry fluffy but i am stealing this one also ..... Dang i started a thread from Hell on this BMI stuff - Just glad to be still obese after WLS and 100 plus pounds so i can still hang out with the formally Fat kids

[summerset 5,261]

13 hours ago, Darktowerdream said:

Odd choice of words.

Sorry, the obsession with this number is sometimes almost unbearable.

Same with calories, carbs, protein... Who gives a flying f**k if you're eating 800 or 808 cals a day? Or if your "carb intake" is 4 g above your limit? We're talking 16 freaking calories here! Six-teen. Not six-hundred.

The obsession is real and it's not a healthy one. Obsessions are not healthy. That's why they're called obsessions.

[Healthy_life2 8,319]

11 hours ago, AJ Tylo said:

Dang i started a thread from Hell on this BMI stuff

Seems to be a sensitive subject, Right? It’s interesting to see some judgmental comments coming from people that have been judged for being obese.

Be proud of all your work. Higher or lower BMI you are healthy- No one should be judged for their weight or BMI at goal.