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[CrankyMagpie 509]

1 hour ago, skinnylife said:

I must be missing something,

The Protein first mantra - Correct me if I'm wrong, This is because you can barely eat enough calories to to get your protein goal right after surgery. Don't all of us progress to real foods with veggies and fruit? Who are the people that are restricted from Beans and fruit?

I've definitely seen people say they don't eat fruit. Even in this thread, people seemed surprised that anyone might eat 3 whole servings of fruit in a day, like that is wild and mind-blowing. I probably will, some days, when I'm not so restricted?

My throwing in beans might just be leftover annoyance at Paleo. I don't know if there are that many people who go out of their way to avoid beans, post-WLS. I hope not! They're amazing, nutritionally!

[Healthy_life 1,437]

1 hour ago, CrankyMagpie said:

I've definitely seen people say they don't eat fruit. Even in this thread, people seemed surprised that anyone might eat 3 whole servings of fruit in a day, like that is wild and mind-blowing. I probably will, some days, when I'm not so restricted?

My throwing in Beans might just be leftover annoyance at Paleo. I don't know if there are that many people who go out of their way to avoid beans, post-WLS. I hope not! They're amazing, nutritionally!

I guess my surgeons office must be progressive. We are allowed fruit. They are high in carbs and have to fit my macros for the day.

Edited October 17, 2018 by skinnylife

[MarinaGirl 608]

I love eating fruit and nuts and Beans - yum, yum! I also like making smoothies or overnight oats for Breakfast as I’m often in a hurry in the morning. These things in small portions sizes do not cause me to gain weight, but this may not be the case for everyone. I think what’s important is to figure out what food properly nourishes YOU and doesn’t make you feel like you’re on a diet forever, which will be different for everyone. If there are foods that trigger you to overeat then cut those out, and if you struggle with food addiction or making poor food choices then you should strongly consider therapy and other approaches to get your head right. Bariatric surgery is great for resetting your metabolism and providing an opportunity to maintain long term weight loss, but it won’t prevent you from eating around your new tool.

[Healthy_life 1,437]

2 hours ago, Medowsweet said:

Lots of people! Lots of people's forever diet is "keto" or "Atkins-like" meaning protine and some green, low carb veg, but avoid carbs such as:

fruit, Beans, whole grains, corn, peas, lentils, peanuts, berries, squash, yams, potatoes, etc

They WILL however eat fake food, such as low fat margarine, artificially flavored sugar free treats, Atkins brand low carb pancake with Atkins brand artificially flavored aspertame Syrup etc

I am wondering if people are having success when they avoid grains, sugar, and processed food, but eat a veriety of whole natural foods, including berries, squash, fruit, nuts, and beans

(But not chips, Cookies, bread, soda, Pasta, crackers, candy, fake, or highly processed food etc)

(Kinda paleo-like, but with beans and maybe milk if you tolerate it)

I was just wondering who's bariatric (real food stage) instructions were to avoid fruits and beans?

I get the people that choose atkins and Keto avoid Fruit, beans, whole grains, corn, peas, lentils, peanuts, berries, squash, yams, potatoes, etc

[I am wondering if people are having success when they avoid grains, sugar, and processed food, but eat a variety of whole natural foods, including berries, squash, fruit, nuts, and beans?]

Four years out - My diet is mostly clean whole foods - Proteins, veggies, fruits, nuts, sweet potato, lentils/beans, squash, nuts, dairy. I am not 100% clean. I balance all my foods to fit my calories and macros for the day.

[Healthy_life 1,437]

6 minutes ago, MarinaGirl said:

I love eating fruit and nuts and Beans - yum, yum! I also like making smoothies or overnight oats for Breakfast as I’m often in a hurry in the morning. These things in small portions sizes do not cause me to gain weight, but this may not be the case for everyone. I think what’s important is to figure out what food properly nourishes YOU and doesn’t make you feel like you’re on a diet forever, which will be different for everyone. If there are foods that trigger you to overeat then cut those out, and if you struggle with food addiction or making poor food choices then you should strongly consider therapy and other approaches to get your head right. Bariatric surgery is great for resetting your metabolism and providing an opportunity to maintain long term weight loss, but it won’t prevent you from eating around your new tool.

Well said.

[FluffyChix 17,409]

17 hours ago, skinnylife said:

I was just wondering who's bariatric (real food stage) instructions were to avoid fruits and Beans?

I get the people that choose Atkins and Keto avoid fruit, beans, whole grains, corn, peas, lentils, peanuts, berries, squash, yams, potatoes, etc

[I am wondering if people are having success when they avoid grains, sugar, and processed food, but eat a variety of whole natural foods, including berries, squash, fruit, nuts, and beans?]

Four years out - My diet is mostly clean whole foods - Proteins, veggies, fruits, nuts, sweet potato, lentils/beans, squash, nuts, dairy. I am not 100% clean. I balance all my foods to fit my calories and macros for the day.

Well, life would be wonderful if we all fit into these little cookie cutter molds that were all exactly the same wouldn't it? It would be so simple...lol. Or would it?

We are all so different. Metabolically, even genetically. And they will find out in the relatively near future, why some people tolerate one type of diet while other have issues with it! They've already identified quite a few genes that shows some of this. But the reality is we ALL have to weed our way through the fog to find the diet that doesn't feel like a diet.

And my doc doesn't limit any of those things listed above. My RD has made changes to mine based on my personal needs and based on the fact that my fasting insulin continues to be higher than we'd like--even after surgery. So...I just can't handle as large a serving of some of those, nor do I choose to include some of them every day. But I'm low carb (sorta keto by defacto, although i don't eat super high fat) and I still enjoy a variety of whole natural foods including very small (like 1-2tbsp) of whole non-processed grains, berries, winter squash, some root veggies, fruit, nuts, and beans. My diet is 10000% satisfying to me and I just do not feel deprivation at all. But I know for me to keep my bgs and insulin down, I have to limit total load in a meal--luckily my RD works with me to help me figure that out! (That's why it's called personalized medicine...)

And as @skinnylife mentions, it simply must fit into my calories and macros for the day. They almost always do. I've been able to lose over 130lbs that way...

Edited October 18, 2018 by FluffyChix

[AshMarie794 164]

Dr. Weiner was my surgeon. And his whole program has literally changed my life and the way I look at life and food. I have been in my opinion extremely successful and have not struggled with his program. His insight and how he can sit and talk with you and give you so many different options has been so helpful!

[Frustr8 7,886]

AshMarie794 so good to see you still around, I'm still hanging out here too.

[GreenTealael 24,855]

1 hour ago, AshMarie794 said:

Dr. Weiner was my surgeon. And his whole program has literally changed my life and the way I look at life and food. I have been in my opinion extremely successful and have not struggled with his program. His insight and how he can sit and talk with you and give you so many different options has been so helpful!

My dear,

Can you start a thread? You have first hand experience which is invaluable to those of us just watching the YouTubes...

[AshMarie794 164]

6 minutes ago, Frustr8 said:

AshMarie794 so good to see you still around, I'm still hanging out here too.

Yeah I am still around. Other than some random posts on my activity page. I go through the forums to see if there is anything I feel passionate about, enough to post on but life is crazy right now. All the kids are in sports, I'm coaching, work, gym, chores, LIFE! Plus I have had a bad cold for a week now.

But my journey is still going strong. Still loosing. And no complications How are you doing?

[AshMarie794 164]

2 minutes ago, GreenTealael said:

My dear,

Can you start a thread? You have first hand experience which is invaluable to those of us just watching the YouTubes...

I most certainly can. Any suggestions as to what I should really touch on?

[GreenTealael 24,855]

3 minutes ago, AshMarie794 said:

I most certainly can. Any suggestions as to what I should really touch on?

Anything you want ! Everything you can think of! How it is different from conventional plans, how it changed your life. It would be so helpful...

[AshMarie794 164]

42 minutes ago, GreenTealael said:

Anything you want ! Everything you can think of! How it is different from conventional plans, how it changed your life. It would be so helpful...

I posted my journey.

[ummyasmin 1,603]

I wonder if it's a cultural thing. I live in Ireland but had my surgery in Belgium so all my information from my surgeon and hospital about eating is European. They had me eat! Dutch Rusks day two after surgery (they're like these toasted, crumbly bread biscuit things). And the material they have me to read talked about the importance of having potato and Pasta in the diet when I can progress to blended and real food. Absolutely no talk of minimum daily amounts of Protein at all.
So I wouldn't stress too much, just follow your surgeon 's advice, experiment with what works for you and get a semi-regular blood test to make sure you're not Vitamin deficient.

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[Chevron 49]

I’ve actually ordered his book recently.