Mixing two proteins

[i_am_jml 0]

Hello bariatric world,

I have a concern. I am about 12 days post vsg and I'm having a hard time getting the required amount of Protein in. I don't have an issue with Premier Protein. I purchased GENEPRO protein to up my protein intake. I wanted to know if it's ok to add a scoop of 30g of Genepro protein to a premixed premier Protein Shake? I don't want it to harm me. But it sounds like an awesome thing to do and get protein intake out the way. Please let me know if it's ok to mix both Proteins. Thank you

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I have never mixed 2 Proteins, I am not a Dr but I think your body can process X amount of Protein. say your Premier Protein hsa 35 grams, and you want to add a scoop of protein Y with 30 grms or protein, theoretically will be a 65 Protein Shake right? I don't think your body will absorb all protein.. Not sure tho, ask a Dr.

[shedo82773 1,236]

I was told by my team that our bodies can only handle up to 30gams at a time. But...u might want to ask your team what they think on this. Have a great day!!

[i_am_jml 0]

Thank you guys. I kinda figured it was too good to be true haha..

[RickM 1,747]

The GENEPRO stuff is too good to be true, so I wouldn't depend on that to do anything other than make expensive urine.

The claim that some, even professionals, make about there being some Protein limit per meal is somewhat dubious, and goes against our evolutionary biology - in the good old days we might gorge on an antelope and then have little protein for a few days - so there is some conflict between these "modern" hypotheses and how we actually developed. (A diminishing absorption with increased amount would be consistent with our biology, but not some magical cutoff point.) That said, I generally do space out protein, along with other nutrients, across the day, under the premise that there are many nutrients that work well together, and we have also evolved to graze (hunting and gathering...) and it is generally better not to overwhelm our systems, particularly with a reduced stomach.

As long as we have to sip liquids all day to stay hydrated (until our drinking returns to semi-normal), why not just sip on another Protein Drink?

[shedo82773 1,236]

The old stuff about GENEPRO. It can't be all be bad for sure. It would be pulled off the market!! If you check even BARIATRICPAL sells t on this site. I think this conversation has been a long drawn out thing. Check with your team ask them about GENEPRO.

[i_am_jml 0]

7 minutes ago, RickM said:

The GENEPRO stuff is too good to be true, so I wouldn't depend on that to do anything other than make expensive urine.

The claim that some, even professionals, make about there being some Protein limit per meal is somewhat dubious, and goes against our evolutionary biology - in the good old days we might gorge on an antelope and then have little Protein for a few days - so there is some conflict between these "modern" hypotheses and how we actually developed. (A diminishing absorption with increased amount would be consistent with our biology, but not some magical cutoff point.) That said, I generally do space out protein, along with other nutrients, across the day, under the premise that there are many nutrients that work well together, and we have also evolved to graze (hunting and gathering...) and it is generally better not to overwhelm our systems, particularly with a reduced stomach.

As long as we have to sip liquids all day to stay hydrated (until our drinking returns to semi-normal), why not just sip on another Protein Drink?

Rick it's hard to get 64oz of Water and 70g of protein in at this stage I'm in. So, i tried to see if had a short cut to something. But, since GENEPRO protein can be mixed in any drink I will spread out the intake of protein in my water.

Thank you.

[RickM 1,747]

By most accounts, Protein Drinks count toward your liquid goal, so you can do both at the same time. It is rare for a program to require 2-3 Protein drinks and a half gallon of Water. It is typically 64+ oz total.

[BigViffer 3,544]

GENEPRO is crap. The company has been sued at least twice and just lost the most recent one. There is no such thing as "medical grade protein". It's whey. They came out and said it is just predigested whey that gets absorbed very quickly. It is not equivalent to 30g, it is at best 10g. The best thing to do with that crap is just chuck it in the trash. Yes it is on the bariatric store, but that is a store. It sole purpose is to sell things people will buy. And people buy Genepro because they want to believe it, not because it works.

To your original question, mix your Protein powders however you like. Whey, casein, pea, or soy... doesn't matter. It's no different than having a salad with chicken on top. There are some benefits to mixing Proteins. BCAA content, absorption rate, bio-availability... experimentation in with this should be encouraged. And don't worry about taking in more than 30g-ish of protein at a time. RickM stated it well. You will absorb the protein eventually.

[RickM 1,747]

2 hours ago, shedo82773 said:

The old stuff about GENEPRO. It can't be all be bad for sure. It would be pulled off the market!! If you check even BARIATRICPAL sells t on this site. I think this conversation has been a long drawn out thing. Check with your team ask them about GENEPRO.

There are lots of products on the dietary supplement market that don't do anything except lighten your wallet, but since they don't do anything demonstrably harmful, there is no regulatory reason for them to be pulled off the market. Think of all of the advertised "male enhancement" products that are sold.

While Genepro may not be a scam, it checks all of the boxes of being a typical nutritional supplement scam - it's too good to be true (30g of "equivalent" - whatever that is - Protein in only 15g of product, and with fewer calories than 30g of real protein!) nobody quite knows what it really is, and they aren't saying, and there is no independent testing of their claims. It may not be harmful - particularly for their target market of normal westerners who already get adequate protein in their diet - but for those who are struggling to get in a minimal amount of protein, it isn't worth the risk. Go with a known quantity that is well documented and accepted - whey isolate, concentrate or blends, pea, soy, egg, etc. It may be legitimate product, but they sure aren't marketing it like it is.