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@biginjapan thanks for posting all of that! Too lat to read all the resources, but I'll get to them tomorrow. I love learning about the body responses or lack of regarding diet/weight loss, etc. It is good to be knowledgeable!

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8 hours ago, Walter.Sobchak said:

Did you have yours yet?
I know you said it was coming up.
Did you get it?


Yes I did, on the 9th. I've been doing great so far. I lost 23 pounds on the pre-op diet (3 weeks) and I've lost 9 since surgery (2 weeks ago today) but the scale is holding steady at the moment. I just started purees and am doing fine. Surgery itself was a non-event for me. Got wheeled into a room where they gave me some medication through the IV -- that's all I remember before waking up in my room. Had no gas pains or nausea post-op, and until recently I was walking 10-20,000 steps a day (I now have a cold, possibly (mild) pneumonia, so I don't want to spend too much time outside where it's pretty cold).

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As stated surgery is more than the diet. I know how to diet. I exercise For me surgery was the right choice.

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12 hours ago, Walter.Sobchak said:


Awesome.
You sound a lot like me.
I have been to OA
I love convenience store junk food, especially Quik Trip.


Until you can cut back on junk food, at least change your junk for to Protein junk food. GNC and Walmart have Quest protein chips. Switch to Protein Bars

The thing is post op it is so much easier to restrict your food because of limited capacity. I can't even imagine trying to cut back with a normal stomach. It would be so hard.

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20 hours ago, 2-Liter said:

Like everyone has said before me Diet is definitely the most important of the two. As a man in the past I would lift heavy and do moderate cardio and got good results but this time around by getting rid of the Carbs well 20 or less per day I have had Great success. The sodas and grazing convenience store food had me out of control gaining over 100 pounds in a year. Take a look at Ketogenic style eating and you will find with some adjustments to your diet you can shed weight rapidly without losing piles of Muscle.

I found ketogenics last year before I moved forward in the surgery process when I was trying to look for a way to lose weight after my father died. I lost 30 lbs with it prior to surgery and it was such an easy transition to post surgery life that I am truly grateful for...

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16 hours ago, Walter.Sobchak said:


Awesome.
You sound a lot like me.
I have been to OA
I love convenience store junk food, especially Quik Trip.


That Quik Trip tea, tho...

That was the hardest thing or me to give up. I struggled with the caffeine, but only because I mainly only drank hot tea in the morning and iced tea all day long. I'm 10 months out with only trace caffeine and no soda in that entire time.

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Yes I did, on the 9th. I've been doing great so far. I lost 23 pounds on the pre-op diet (3 weeks) and I've lost 9 since surgery (2 weeks ago today) but the scale is holding steady at the moment. I just started purees and am doing fine. Surgery itself was a non-event for me. Got wheeled into a room where they gave me some medication through the IV -- that's all I remember before waking up in my room. Had no gas pains or nausea post-op, and until recently I was walking 10-20,000 steps a day (I now have a cold, possibly (mild) pneumonia, so I don't want to spend too much time outside where it's pretty cold).

Hey, I sent you a private message but it doesn't look like it is working for some reason.
I just wanted to ask you a couple things.



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Without all the fluff and explanations, diet is the single most important factor in weight loss.

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Hi if your having doubts ur not ready for a gastric sleeve you need to think what's best for you it's a long road ahead and if you think you can do it naturally then great ?? I'm the same I can lose weight easy but before I no it iv put it back on ? Witch is no good for. Me so I got the sleeve and the sleeve is only a tool in your body to help you lose weight . Hope this helps . Good luck

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Hi if your having doubts ur not ready for a gastric sleeve you need to think what's best for you it's a long road ahead and if you think you can do it naturally then great ? I'm the same I can lose weight easy but before I no it iv put it back on Witch is no good for. Me so I got the sleeve and the sleeve is only a tool in your body to help you lose weight . Hope this helps . Good luck

Yeah, I know what you are saying.
I am just so scared of surgery.



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So was I I'm a big softie really am my wife can't believe I did it lol iv never had any surgery in my life I was ? Myself but deep down I new that if I don't I'm going to get lots ov health problems. I'm 37 and want to see my kids grow up time will tell if I made the right decision ? I was 16 st 9 pounds now I'm 14st 4 pound from today's date I just need a kick up my arse diets don't really work for me I can lose weight but before you no it I'm twice as much? Hope you make the right move good luck

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So you have dropped two Stone, how many pounds is that.
Damn you metric system, you continue to haunt me after all these years (an attempt at humor)
I have had surgery before.
3 surgeries to be exact.
But I hate being put under.
I had to get Electro Convulsive Therapy for my depression and you have to be put under for that.
I had 30 sessions and as a result I have PTSD when it comes to being put under.



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It 36.6 lbs lost ?

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It's got to be worth it for you if it's going to help you in the future then go for it but only if ur ready it a big lifestyle change ???

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It's got to be worth it for you if it's going to help you in the future then go for it but only if ur ready it a big lifestyle change [emoji51][emoji106]?

Cool, thanks Bro.



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