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Anyone else ever listened to this asshole? He (Savage) runs a conservative talk radio show. I catch bits of it occasionally on my 3 1/2 hour drive home, since it is one of only a couple of stations that come in. I don't understand how someone with so much obvious hate for anyone who isn't a heterosexual WASP can actually get enough listeners to keep his show from being cancelled. He's horrible. I have never been so disgusted by a person in my life, and I'm most disturbed by the fact that he passes himself off as a faithful Christian. It's utterly mind-boggling to me.

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He is too far right to win, remember, moderates outnumber the "core" of either party. Which is why hillery will not win nor savage.

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He is too far right to win, remember, moderates outnumber the "core" of either party. Which is why hillery will not win nor savage.
Hillary being a Liberal is a myth. I lived in NY and her voting record in the Senate and the bills she sponsored show that she is not a Liberal. She has won over many of the Independents and even some of the Republican voters from the predominately Republican areas of upstate NY and Long Island.

I am a Liberal. Neither Hillary nor Bill Clinton are Liberals.

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Umm, I thought that Michael Savage's father was Jewish and his mother Italian. That would make him very much a non WASP. And for the record his real last name is Weiner. (not positive I spelled it right)

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Umm, I thought that Michael Savage's father was Jewish and his mother Italian. That would make him very much a non WASP. And for the record his real last name is Weiner. (not positive I spelled it right)
In my reply to the opening post, there is a link embedding in "President of the USA (as a republican). "

Just click on it for the full story.

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Hillary being a Liberal is a myth. I lived in NY and her voting record in the Senate and the bills she sponsored show that she is not a Liberal. She has won over many of the Independents and even some of the Republican voters from the predominately Republican areas of upstate NY and Long Island.

I am a Liberal. Neither Hillary nor Bill Clinton are Liberals.

According to http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm she is a: Moderate Liberal Populist

Hence my claim of liberal still stands

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As I recall he had a show on TV for a while but got booted off for crossing a line that was so far right you could not see it due to the curvature of the earth. I think Anne Colter mentioned that she was offended by his ultra conservative hate speech.

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As I recall he had a show on TV for a while but got booted off for crossing a line that was so far right you could not see it due to the curvature of the earth. I think Anne Colter mentioned that she was offended by his ultra conservative hate speech.
That is almost as bad as the "South Park" episode in which Satan calls Saddam Hussein evil (or some similar term).:)

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Umm, I thought that Michael Savage's father was Jewish and his mother Italian. That would make him very much a non WASP. And for the record his real last name is Weiner. (not positive I spelled it right)
Someone being a non-WASP doesn't necessarily mean they don't hate other non-WASPs.

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As I recall he had a show on TV for a while but got booted off for crossing a line that was so far right you could not see it due to the curvature of the earth. I think Anne Colter mentioned that she was offended by his ultra conservative hate speech.
I would not be at all surprised. Although, the Anne Coulter thing is sort of funny, seeing as I consider her to be the female version of Savage.

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He is one of the few 'UNpolitically correct' voices left with a national audience.
To me, there is a difference between someone not being politically correct and someone who just spews hatred.
And that is just what the radio dial is for....if we don't like it, we can tune him out.
And I do. I can usually only listen to a couple of minutes at a time before I get so pissed off that I can't stand it any more. What I don't understand is other people actually listening to him enough that he stays on the air.

I am a firm believer in free speech. I think he should be allowed to say what he wants. I just don't understand people actually listening to him and agreeing with him.

When I was listening to him for a few minutes yesterday, he actually implied that the Jews were at fault for dying in the Holocaust, simply because they didn't fight back. He was also spouting off about what he called the "Homosexual Mafia." Again, I think he should be able to say whatever he wants, I just don't get people actually agreeing with him and being loyal listeners.

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so....are you saying the Jews would have been better served to have actually marched to the ovens without any protest or opposition?
No, I'm not. But that is basically what Savage said they did, marching quietly to their deaths. My opinion is that it wouldn't have mattered whether or not they faught back. If someone is crazy enough to want to kill an entire ethic or religious group, they are going to do it whether or not someone tries to fight it. I disagreed with what Savage said because he basically said that if the Jews had fought back against Hitler and his minions, the Holocaust would not have happened. I think it's bull because if you look at just about every other instance of genocide in history, people frequently HAVE fought back, and it didn't make a damn bit of difference.
How people spend their time is not up to me. Nor what or whom they agree with.
I agree, which is why I am not trying to force the guy off the air or create laws banning the crap he spews. But that doesn't mean that I can't speak about my absolute disgust for him and his following.

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I don't understand your point. You are well spoken, obviously intelligent, and give lip service to the 'right' for someone to speak their mind.

Yet, when those opinions are in contrast to yours, you seem befuddled that so many could be so wrong to listen to such....

Yes, I believe people have the right to speak about whatever they want to. But again, that doesn't mean that I have to agree with what they say.

People seem to think that someone advocating for someone else's right to free speech means that we agree with what they say. It doesn't. All it means is that we think they have the right to say whatever is on their minds. It doesn't mean that we like what they say, or agree with it, or don't think the person is a hate-filled piece of scum. Again, I think the guy has every right to say what he wants, I just don't understand people agreeing with him.

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