What are sliders?

[meaganchuckran 7]

I here people saying its a slider meal... What's that mean?

[ScottsGirl 106]

This phrase is usually used for patients that have the Lap Band or Gastric Bypass surgery. It's food that are mushy and high in carbs that go down easily, ie: ice cream, thus the word "slider". Some foods like chips, rice, bread and Cookies are also considered to be slider foods for some reason.

This should not be much of a problem for someone that has had the sleeve gastrectomy done.

Hope this helps!

[No game 14,436]

This phrase is usually used for patients that have the Lap Band or Gastric Bypass surgery. It's food that are mushy and high in carbs that go down easily, ie: ice cream, thus the word "slider". Some foods like chips, rice, bread and Cookies are also considered to be slider foods for some reason.

This should not be much of a problem for someone that has had the sleeve gastrectomy done.

Hope this helps!

Actually not entirely true...

To the weight loss surgery patient slider foods are the bane of good intentions and ignorance often causing dumping syndrome, weight loss plateaus, and eventually weight gain for gastric bypass, gastric band (lap-band), and gastric sleeve bariatric patients.

Slider foods, to weight loss surgery patients, are soft simple processed carbohydrates of little or no nutritional value that slide right through the surgical stomach pouch without providing nutrition or satiation. The most innocent of slider foods are saltine crackers, often eaten with warm tea or other beverages, to soothe the stomach in illness or while recovering from surgery.

Understanding Slider Foods The most commonly

consumed slider foods include pretzels, crackers (saltines, graham, Ritz, etc.) filled cracker Snacks such as Ritz Bits, popcorn, cheese Snacks (Cheetos) or cheese crackers, tortilla chips with salsa, potato chips, sugar-free Cookies, cakes, and candy. You will notice these slider foods are often salty and cause dry mouth so they must be ingested with liquid to be palatable. This is how they become slider foods.

They are also, most often, void of nutritional value. For weight loss surgery patients the process of digestion is different than those who have not undergone gastric surgery. When slider foods are consumed they go into the stomach pouch and exit directly into the jejunum where the simple carbohydrate slurry is quickly absorbed and stored by the body. There is little thermic effect in the digestion of simple carbohydrates like there is in the digestion of Protein so little metabolic energy is expended. In most cases patients in the phase of weight loss who eat slider foods will experience a weight loss plateau and possibly the setback of weight gain. And sadly, they will begin to believe their surgical stomach pouch is not functioning properly because they never feel fullness or restriction like they experience when eating Protein. The very nature of the surgical gastric pouch is to cause feelings of tightness or restriction when one has eaten enough food. However, when soft simple carbohydrates are eaten this tightness or restriction does not result and one can continue to eat, unmeasured, copious amounts of non-nutritional food without ever feeling uncomfortable.

Many patients turn to slider foods for this very reason. They do not like the discomfort that results when the pouch is full from eating a measured portion of lean animal or dairy protein without liquids. Yet it is this very restriction that is the desired result of the surgery. The discomfort is intended to signal the cessation of eating. Remembering the "Protein First" rule is crucial to weight management with bariatric surgery. Gastric bypass, gastric banding (lap-band) and gastric sleeve patients are instructed to follow a high protein diet to facilitate healing and promote weight loss.

Bariatric centers advise what is commonly known among weight loss surgery patients as the "Four Rules" the most important of which is "Protein First." That means of all nutrients (protein, carbohydrates, fat and alcohol) the patient is required to eat protein first. Protein is not always the most comfortable food choice for weight loss surgery patients who feel restriction after eating a very small amount of food. However, for the surgical tool to work correctly a diet rich in protein and low in simple carbohydrate slider foods must be observed. The high protein diet must be followed even after healthy body weight has been achieved in order to maintain a healthy weight and avoid weight regain.

Edited November 3, 2013 by laura-ven

[SDH 87]

Thanks for posting that laura-ven...I have learned more from reading on this website than I learned going through all of my pre-op appointments!!!

[jdmama911 224]

I tried some pretzels about a week ago. I was horrified with how fast and much I are without feeling the slightest bit full. I only gave myself 1 serving, but I could have probably eaten the entire bag if I were following old habits of mindless eating. They are definitely a slider! Crackers, popcorn, chips...processed snack foods in general from what I've heard are sliders.

[ScottsGirl 106]

I read this exact same thing on another site, I chose cliff notes from the obesityhelp.com forum. My surgeon, NUT and nurse all told me that dumping syndrome is not a symptom that is experienced by sleeve patients, and slider foods are only slider foods for others because with the sleeve you don't have a problem getting Proteins down like most GB or LB patients, I have a LB friend that has this issue... but whatever, everyone seems to say something different.

Actually not entirely true...

To the weight loss surgery patient slider foods are the bane of good intentions and ignorance often causing dumping syndrome, weight loss plateaus, and eventually weight gain for gastric bypass, gastric band (lap-band), and gastric sleeve bariatric patients.

Slider foods, to weight loss surgery patients, are soft simple processed carbohydrates of little or no nutritional value that slide right through the surgical stomach pouch without providing nutrition or satiation. The most innocent of slider foods are saltine crackers, often eaten with warm tea or other beverages, to soothe the stomach in illness or while recovering from surgery.

Understanding Slider Foods The most commonly

consumed slider foods include pretzels, crackers (saltines, graham, Ritz, etc.) filled cracker Snacks such as Ritz Bits, popcorn, cheese Snacks (Cheetos) or cheese crackers, tortilla chips with salsa, potato chips, sugar-free Cookies, cakes, and candy. You will notice these slider foods are often salty and cause dry mouth so they must be ingested with liquid to be palatable. This is how they become slider foods.

They are also, most often, void of nutritional value. For weight loss surgery patients the process of digestion is different than those who have not undergone gastric surgery. When slider foods are consumed they go into the stomach pouch and exit directly into the jejunum where the simple carbohydrate slurry is quickly absorbed and stored by the body. There is little thermic effect in the digestion of simple carbohydrates like there is in the digestion of Protein so little metabolic energy is expended. In most cases patients in the phase of weight loss who eat slider foods will experience a weight loss plateau and possibly the setback of weight gain. And sadly, they will begin to believe their surgical stomach pouch is not functioning properly because they never feel fullness or restriction like they experience when eating Protein. The very nature of the surgical gastric pouch is to cause feelings of tightness or restriction when one has eaten enough food. However, when soft simple carbohydrates are eaten this tightness or restriction does not result and one can continue to eat, unmeasured, copious amounts of non-nutritional food without ever feeling uncomfortable.

Many patients turn to slider foods for this very reason. They do not like the discomfort that results when the pouch is full from eating a measured portion of lean animal or dairy protein without liquids. Yet it is this very restriction that is the desired result of the surgery. The discomfort is intended to signal the cessation of eating. Remembering the "Protein First" rule is crucial to weight management with bariatric surgery. Gastric bypass, gastric banding (lap-band) and gastric sleeve patients are instructed to follow a high protein diet to facilitate healing and promote weight loss.

Bariatric centers advise what is commonly known among weight loss surgery patients as the "Four Rules" the most important of which is "Protein First." That means of all nutrients (protein, carbohydrates, fat and alcohol) the patient is required to eat protein first. Protein is not always the most comfortable food choice for weight loss surgery patients who feel restriction after eating a very small amount of food. However, for the surgical tool to work correctly a diet rich in protein and low in simple carbohydrate slider foods must be observed. The high protein diet must be followed even after healthy body weight has been achieved in order to maintain a healthy weight and avoid weight regain.

[No game 14,436]

I read this exact same thing on another site' date=' I chose cliff notes from the obesityhelp.com forum. My surgeon, NUT and nurse all told me that dumping syndrome is not a symptom that is experienced by sleeve patients, and slider foods are only slider foods for others because with the sleeve you don't have a problem getting Proteins down like most GB or LB patients, I have a LB friend that has this issue... but whatever, everyone seems to say something different. [/quote']

With respect I say they are wrong... While I do not dump. Do a search here you will find tons of people that do, even though your People say it's not possible. And sliders? My dear, most definitely, they are wrong!

Edited November 4, 2013 by laura-ven

[endless80 697]

Slider foods are very real for sleeve patients. I do not dump personally but Laura is right, there are some folks on here with the sleeve that do dump and I feel bad for them. I didn't like the idea of malabsorption and dumping so I choose the sleeve (because dumping is far less common) but from my own experience slider foods are very real and need to be heeded by anyone who has obesity surgery.

[gmanbat 5,889]

That's a great article, Laura. There most definitely sliders for me. The crackers and Cookies thing is so true. I drink with those things, it's a given. Sloppy stuff goes down easy and can add up in volume. When I eat a steak or other dense Protein it's over quickly.

The article is worth copying. Thanks!

[No game 14,436]

That's a great article' date=' Laura. There most definitely sliders for me. The crackers and Cookies thing is so true. I drink with those things, it's a given. Sloppy stuff goes down easy and can add up in volume. When I eat a steak or other dense Protein it's over quickly. The article is worth copying. Thanks![/quote']

That is one thing I wish we had here,

Articles. I do my reading elsewhere sometimes and export Tidbits I find useful.

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