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Hello All....SabrinaMarie I too am kinda in the dark about the after surgery process. I don't have a NUT or any after surgery instructions for after the first 4 weeks. I am doing the bouncing around on the scale 1 pound or 2 and have not lost anything for awhile. My question to everyone is: Do you include the calories from your Protein Shakes into your daily calories and how many calories should I be having each day? My Protein shakes are about 280 calories, for 60 gr protein. I have been eating lots of chicken breast and cooked veg's. Yogurt,and chicken soup.I kinda feel afraid to eat other foods. Because I think I won't lose weight if I do...I walk just about every day and going to the gym starting Mon. Congrat's to everybody on doing so well.

Hi, I'm 3wks out and at my 2nd postop which was yesterday, my doc told me that I need to stop the Protein Drinks since I was gettin at least 40g from foods. Also, as Atl said, my doc also includes shakes as part of the 64oz of Fluid daily and yes those count towards caloric intake. Gl and hope things fall into place for u. God bless.

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Hello All....SabrinaMarie I too am kinda in the dark about the after surgery process. I don't have a NUT or any after surgery instructions for after the first 4 weeks. I am doing the bouncing around on the scale 1 pound or 2 and have not lost anything for awhile. My question to everyone is: Do you include the calories from your Protein Shakes into your daily calories and how many calories should I be having each day? My Protein shakes are about 280 calories, for 60 gr protein. I have been eating lots of chicken breast and cooked veg's. Yogurt,and chicken soup.I kinda feel afraid to eat other foods. Because I think I won't lose weight if I do...I walk just about every day and going to the gym starting Mon. Congrat's to everybody on doing so well.

Different doctors set different guidelines for what you can eat and how you progress. Mine is pretty strict about low carb. I'm linking to his patient portal that has the progression (it's frustrating, because they posted the three week thing for bypass, not sleeve!).

http://advweightlosssurgery.com/patient-portal/

I hope that helps. My nutritionist thinks I should be getting 600-800 calories daily now.

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Seems like I wake up most nights around 2am and am hungry. Is this happening to other folks? What are you doing about it? It makes sense that I would be physically hungry, if I'm having 2 oz of soft food around 6pm, but I don't really want to "wake up" and have more food. But then I think, well, I *am* awake! Part of its typical "woke up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep, " but it seems even harder with these hunger pangs.

Not a huge problem... Just every thing seems more ponderable when it's 2am and you can't sleep! :)

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Question for everyone:
Does anyone want the grape Protein Shots I bought? Here are the pics of them. There are 10 completely new ones... I tried one and just wasn't into the flavor of it and I have my sister one also. I am selling it for about $25 but am willing to negotiate! I paid $40 for 12 of them. I can ship it to you!

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Hi everyone, I'm about six weeks out from surgery and have hit a second stall. So discouraging. Have any of you hand this problem six weeks out and what did you do to get restarted? I thought about just going on a Protein Shake fast day.

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<p><em><strong><span style="font-family:'lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;">Hello All....SabrinaMarie I too am kinda in the dark about the after surgery process. I don't have a NUT or any after surgery instructions for after the first 4 weeks. I am doing the bouncing around on the scale 1 pound or 2 and have not lost anything for awhile. My question to everyone is: Do you include the calories from your Protein Shakes into your daily calories and how many calories should I be having each day? My Protein shakes are about 280 calories, for 60 gr protein. I have been eating lots of chicken breast and cooked veg's. Yogurt,and chicken soup.I kinda feel afraid to eat other foods. Because I think I won't lose weight if I do...I walk just about every day and going to the gym starting Mon. Congrat's to everybody on doing so well.</span></span></strong></em></p>

I had a week or so where I didn't lose any weight but it's starting To come off now finally. I definitely count the calories from protein shakes as part of my over all calories which I have felt drinking slowed down my weight loss by a ton. So at this point I'm trying to eat mostly tuna no and foods with more protein because I'm just not down with the shakes anymore. This girl on here told me she drinks about half of an isolate drink a day just to help her hair so think I might start doing that. But over all the shakes just have way too many calories for me. Good job starting the gym soon! I hope everything works out for you.

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Question for everyone: Does anyone want the grape Protein Shots I bought? Here are the pics of them. There are 10 completely new ones... I tried one and just wasn't into the flavor of it and I have my sister one also. I am selling it for about $25 but am willing to negotiate! I paid $40 for 12 of them. I can ship it to you! <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' class="" href='http://www.bariatricpal.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=40728' title="image-4278844596.jpg - Size: 568.31K, Downloads: 0"></a> <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' class="" href='http://www.bariatricpal.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=40729' title="image-1076515911.jpg - Size: 484.85K, Downloads: 0"></a> <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' class="" href='http://www.bariatricpal.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=40730' title="image-2069885276.jpg - Size: 480.44K, Downloads: 0"></a> Bari

I had the same problem and sent mine to a fellow Dec Sleever! Wishing you success!

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For those you without a NUT if you search the web I found some great info on the boston Brigham and Women Hospital website. Granted it's a guide and finding your Nut would be more ideal but if that's not an option check this link out... http://www.brighamandwomens.org/Departments_and_Services/surgery/services/generalsurg/WeightLossSurgery/PostOpSleeveGastrectomyDiet.pdf

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Seems like I wake up most nights around 2am and am hungry. Is this happening to other folks? What are you doing about it? It makes sense that I would be physically hungry, if I'm having 2 oz of soft food around 6pm, but I don't really want to "wake up" and have more food. But then I think, well, I *am* awake! Part of its typical "woke up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep, " but it seems even harder with these hunger pangs.

Not a huge problem... Just every thing seems more ponderable when it's 2am and you can't sleep! :)

Wombat:

I have not had the 2 AM issue, but twice I could not go to sleep because my stomach felt so hollow. What I have done is drink 3 oz of skim milk which filled me up and provided more Protein. It seems like 6 pm is too early to stop eating. Can you eat something like cottage cheese or cheese or something later to hold you overnight?

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Wombat: I have not had the 2 AM issue, but twice I could not go to sleep because my stomach felt so hollow. What I have done is drink 3 oz of skim milk which filled me up and provided more Protein. It seems like 6 pm is too early to stop eating. Can you eat something like cottage cheese or cheese or something later to hold you overnight?

The milk sounds like a great idea. I should mention, I go to bed around 9, and worry about heartburn if I eat too late.

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I found a link to Boston's Brigham & Women Hospital gastric dietary post plan...I thought for those without A NUT it would be helpful.

..http://www.brighamandwomens.org/Departments_and_Services/surgery/services/generalsurg/WeightLossSurgery/PostOpSleeveGastrectomyDiet.pdf

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Wombat: I have not had the 2 AM issue, but twice I could not go to sleep because my stomach felt so hollow. What I have done is drink 3 oz of skim milk which filled me up and provided more Protein. It seems like 6 pm is too early to stop eating. Can you eat something like cottage cheese or cheese or something later to hold you overnight?

The milk sounds like a great idea. I should mention, I go to bed around 9, and worry about heartburn if I eat too late.
I sometimes I get hunger late at night but I go back to sleep.., I Figure a little hunger pains won't hurt me and the hurt burn would be worse than the hunger pains

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