Vs And Ds In Mexico

[DianaT327 0]

Apparently, I'm not clear. I'm not asking if someone had the VS and then had a revision to a DS. I'm asking if anyone had both at the same time, in Mexico.

I guess it isn't safe to assume someone on a VS forum might have also had the DS too just because the forum isn't called "...and DS."

Thanks for making a newbie feel at home.

[amykins 202]

I don't understand. Those are two completely different sugical procedures. One would have the VSG and if it didn't work, after a period of time revison surgery could be done. One example is the DS. You only have one stomach. How could someone have both, at the same time?

Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy (VSG) Revision Surgery

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Although Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy (VSG) is effective for many patients, some do not lose adequate weight, therefore revision weight loss surgery may be needed to cause additional weight loss. Failure after Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy may be caused by a couple of different factors.

• If a stomach has been stretched, re-sleeving of the stomach may be a sufficient revision procedure.
  
• Other individuals may require the addition of metabolic and malabsorptive aspects to compliment Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy. Procedures such as the Duodenal Switch and Ileal Transposition may be appropriate.
  

Most revision operations are higher risk than the first time a weight loss surgery procedure is performed. Revision of Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy to Duodenal Switch actually carries with it less risk than performing the Duodenal Switch in a single operation for the first time. This is possible due to the fact that Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy is one portion of the Duodenal Switch procedure. When converting to Duodenal Switch from Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy, a significant piece of the operation has already been performed. This results in a smaller surgical procedure than performing the Duodenal Switch all at once.

[DianaT327 0]

Oh goodie, I'll get to explain something to you. A DS includes the VSG. But a VSG doesn't necessarily include the DS.

Someone that has the VSG can later get a revision to a DS.

I didn't read all of your post because i wasn't asking for a definition of the surgeries - but i do appreciate you taking the time to send it. Maybe it will help someone else that doesn't know.

[julielle 199]

We understand very well what a DS is, what you said is you wanted to know if someone had a VSG and a DS at the same time. Since you know so much about it you should know that the DS itself includes the VSG component, therefore someone either has a DS, or they have a VSG, they do not have "both", it's implied that the VSG is included in the DS as that is what the procedure is. You never hear someone say "I had a VSG and a DS on March 15". No, if they previously had a VSG then they had a revision to a DS. Not, as you stated "I'm asking if anyone had both at the same time, in Mexico."

You're very condescending and it's really not warranted.

[amykins 202]

Wow, thank you so much for explaining that to me. I think I just fed a troll. Jumping out of this one. Won't touch one of your posts ever again.

[julielle 199]

Agreed, I should know better!

[DianaT327 0]

Thanks again. i'm not a troll. I'm not apologizing for anything. I was looking for information and the only people that replied (so far) think I don't know what I'm talking about and want me to go to a different website for information.

It's offensive to a newbie. Not welcoming at all. How would you expect someone to react to your "attacks"?

Yup, I've been put in my place - I'll go elsewhere to find support. Apparently, newbies can't ask questions? or, I just didn't do it the way you expected. I'm not sure. I was looking for support and got beat up.

Good luck to you where ever you are in your WL journey's and I hope you're successful.

[julielle 199]

No it's that when we try to help you, you attack back and say we don't know what we're talking about. We tell you that what you're asking about is a revision to a DS, and you say no, I'm not asking about a revision to a DS, i'm asking about someone having the VSG and the DS at the same time. We state that it's not possible to have both at the same time, and then you say oh goodie I get to explain to you what the surgery is. If you don't understand what's wrong with this picture I don't know what to say to you. You don't seem to be grasping the basics.

You only have one stomach.

If you sleeve it, it's sleeved. If you go home and come back in a month and convert it to a DS, you now have a DS. You do not have a VSG and a DS.

If you have a whole stomach that has no sleeve, and you decide to get the DS, then you still have a DS. You do not ever get the VSG and the DS "at the same time" That's why we're not understanding you. If you're looking for someone who has "both at the same time", you are probably referring to someone having a virgin DS (not a revision, someone who has never had a sleeve). In that case, that person would not be posting at a forum about vertical sleeves, because that's not the procedure they'd have.

I hope that clears things up.

[DianaT327 0]

Well, I had left but have to reply as I received a notification. Again, I'm a newbie and am being called names and told to leave.

Lovely.

[chum 19]

Diana, hazlesmrf has tried so hard to explain but you continue to sound off very arrogantly. I really think shes right in directing you to obesityhelp. Im pretty certain that you will find something there. But can I add that your approach is not the nicest and may not be welcome there either if you continue to have such a know it all attitude. Good luck. Really.

[AmandaRaeLeo 2,145]

Well' date=' I had left but have to reply as I received a notification. Again, I'm a newbie and am being called names and told to leave.

Lovely.[/quote']

ObesityHelp deals with WLS in all its varieties. They don't have an app but they do have a mobile site. This site is VGS. The only "combo" I usually see on here is lapbands converting to VGS. I started off on ObesityHelp and came here b/c I decided on the sleeve. I hope you find the data and feedback you're looking for! WLS is a big deal and gathering info and experiences helps in the decision making process.

Amanda Rae

[Liliana Arleen 173]

Just a friendly reminder,please follow the forum rules,cursing is not allow on this forum,Thanks.

[muffintop 62]

Haha can u delete rude people then????????????

[lizv123 389]

Wow. Really? Just...wow.

[lizv123 389]

And I just read over this again, you won't get a DS with a decent surgeon when your BMi is so low, OP. I've got a BMI of 48 and still don't weigh enough for the switch.