Am I Loosing Fast Enough? (Got The Sleeve At 154#)

[Butterthebean 8,146]

Wow' date=' you sound jealous. Get over yourself. A good surgeon looks at all the options, and makes the decision. I have a question for you? How could you let yourself get so obese that you would need the surgery anyways? Maybe you should stop telling all of us what is right and not right and be happy for someone that is trying to change their lives.[/quote']

This has got to be the rudest thing I've ever read on this forum. And I've got a pretty big tolerance for rudeness, but this is even too much for me. If you aren't obese and aren't considering surgery then you're just a troll that needs to be banned. If you are obese, then you are the biggest hypocrite I know.

[iggychic 1,405]

I don't think anyone who is "shaking their head" in disbelief is angry at the original poster. I think a lot of people who have posted or reading this topic are wondering (as some have already stated) why would a doctor do this when there are other alternatives (jc and ww for example) another doctor would have suggested. Then I think there are some who are a bit shocked how many hoops with their doctors' date=' insurance companies, etc. they had to jump through and some still be denied a life-saving surgery and then see someone (anyone) do it for a cosmetic reason. It just happened to be a person on this forum. I have no anger for her, and she's probably not the first one to do it. If she wishes to tell her story, that is entirely up to her. I hope she achieves her goals.

Please see the other side of why people are questioning her so closely. I see people getting denied this surgery every day. I see the struggles of people trying to jump through the hoops of the insurance company and psychologists, etc. and see the frustration. They're exhausted, mentally and physically, of trying to get through. I think seeing this post could make one exasperated, having so many obstacles in their way and the frustration of having to lose at least 50 pounds seems like climbing Mt. Everest.

I don't see people hating on the original poster, I think everyone here is more sensitive to weight issues than most forums. Any sort of criticism seems to turn into a "you're just saying it because you hate fat people now". We're all here because we had the sleeve (or going to), and we are connected for that.[/quote']

Thats one big sleeve Maybe we should get together and have a pizza LOL

Ok but seriously....I didn't get any flack because I was a self pay. Why should this gal? I get that people are frustrated by their hoops, but most rational people would know that those hoops aren't this gal's, or my, or any other self pay's fault. I didn't jump through any hoops...didn't even need to go to Mexico. Does that make my sleeve experience less important than someone who had a six month weight loss period? No, it just makes the experience different.

Honestly, I am not even sure I have an issue with models doing it. If you think about what a typical model subsides on, with a 100% focus on not putting anything into their mouth, healthy or not, the sleeve sounds like a better option....much healthier! they can eat a more balanced diet than most models eat and maintain what people might think is a very low weight, and not be killing themselves in the process.

[stickks 19]

This has got to be the rudest thing I've ever read on this forum. And I've got a pretty big tolerance for rudeness, but this is even too much for me. If you aren't obese and aren't considering surgery then you're just a troll that needs to be banned. If you are obese, then you are the biggest hypocrite I know.

Oh, have a touched a nerve? Good. I am not the one calling myself butterbean. bubye, fatties

[iggychic 1,405]

I am 5'2" and currently 152 pounds. My goal is 130. This post confused the hell out of me. I have lost almost 100 pounds and pretty much think that I am some hot stuff at 152 pounds -- only to find out that someone who is taller than me got this surgery and is starting at 154 pounds!

Yes my surgery was to look better and well as fix my poor literally dying self' date=' but I would have a hard time thinking I'm a porker and would need surgery with a BMI under 27.

Back to the original question: the closer you get to a healthy body weight, the slower you will lose. at just over 20 pounds to go, I stall for a month and lose 5 pounds, then stall for another month and then lose another 5.

Update: I did read the whole thread now. I can see wanting to stop the yo-yo weight business and have the tool to be able to eat like a normal person.

It just shocked me because I thought I was getting into the "normal" range. I'm not skinny, but people could not really call me fat either - that is to say, I do not stand out.[/quote']

Cat....I"m curious...do you think you still "need the surgery" to get to 130 or could you go back to a full stomach and get there, plus maintain it for life?

And as to the weights...don't they baffle you? My goal is 110 (4' 12"). I'm close to your weight now and think I look quite large still. At 130, you will probably be quite hot given I know you're quite fit where as I'm just a couple weeks off surgery and struggling to get enough energy to take a mile walk I've seen people at my same height shooting for 160-90 lbs. Which are right?

I hope you don't take that offensively...I'm trying to point out that it's kind of all relative I thought your post was a great example of someone with just a few pounds to lose who is rocking the sleeve to do so

[doxieville 799]

Thats one big sleeve <img src='http://www.bariatricpal.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Maybe we should get together and have a pizza LOL

Ok but seriously....I didn't get any flack because I was a self pay. Why should this gal? I get that people are frustrated by their hoops' date=' but most rational people would know that those hoops aren't this gal's, or my, or any other self pay's fault. I didn't jump through any hoops...didn't even need to go to Mexico. Does that make my sleeve experience less important than someone who had a six month weight loss period? No, it just makes the experience different.

Honestly, I am not even sure I have an issue with models doing it. If you think about what a typical model subsides on, with a 100% focus on not putting anything into their mouth, healthy or not, the sleeve sounds like a better option....much healthier! they can eat a more balanced diet than most models eat and maintain what people might think is a very low weight, and not be killing themselves in the process.

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Iggy, I agree with you about it being a healthier way for models IF they eat a balanced diet. But if they don't, and use it for a way not to feel hungry and don't eat or take their supplements, then they are looking at a serious problem down the road. And that makes me sad.

**i am NOT saying this is what the OP did. This thread has gone beyond her original post.

[*susan* 1,709]

Please remember to be supportive and to refrain from personal attacks.

Thank you.

[Getting There 198]

Kids...when people ****** on this forum all the time about prejudice they've felt being "fat" it seems a bit odd that this thread is expressing the same prejudice over and over again. She's expressed her reasoning, and frankly it makes good sense. Much like me she's trying to nip something in the bud, she's just younger..she's not 15. She's an adult who knows her issues and her body (and we have no "right" to know it). I don't know why everyone I speak with in this forum decided on this drastic step. I don't need to know. I assume the decision is theirs to make as are the consequences of the decision.

The fact that she's smaller than many of us does not mean she owes us more. She came here for support...let's not be mean fat people to her cuz she's not fat enough for gads sake! There is so much prejudice here! It's actually hard to read. Prejudice against someone for ANY LEVEL of weight is wrong. Can't we treat her like we treat each other? Kindly with some support, no matter her weight?

Well said Iggy - and made me have 2nd thoughts about an earlier comment I made. Looking back, I wish I had done something permanent about my weight MUCH sooner!

Thanks for setting us straight!

[Catracks 865]

Cat....I"m curious...do you think you still "need the surgery" to get to 130 or could you go back to a full stomach and get there, plus maintain it for life?

Probably not, which is why I said later that it makes sense for someone who has been obese and knows that they will go straight back there. I still personally think this is a solution of last resorts. For someone who is just slightly overweight for the first time should try other, less invasive measures first.

I know me and I've been yo-yoing for over 25 years. Maybe if I had nipped it in the bud in 1985, I could have avoided this surgery. I don't know.

And as to the weights...don't they baffle you? My goal is 110 (4' 12"). I'm close to your weight now and think I look quite large still. At 130, you will probably be quite hot given I know you're quite fit where as I'm just a couple weeks off surgery and struggling to get enough energy to take a mile walk I've seen people at my same height shooting for 160-90 lbs. Which are right?

I think it lies with your personal comfort zone. It is relative, because the difference between 246 and 152 is mind boggling. The fun is seeing the jaws drop on people I haven't seen for a year.

120 is probably where I should be, but I figure I've got 5-10 pounds of hanging skin.

Like I said, it's personal, but I would try to get within those healthy BMIs. 160 is a lot of strain for a 5 foot frame unless you are a very muscley 160. 190? I would poke them to keep going and they'd feel even better.

I hope you don't take that offensively...I'm trying to point out that it's kind of all relative I thought your post was a great example of someone with just a few pounds to lose who is rocking the sleeve to do so

Not bothered in the least. I like frank, honest discussions. We all have our thoughts on this and talking it out helps us gain other perspectives.

[missmeow 156]

I am disturbed. I do not think bariatric surgery is appropriate for children at all. I am also disturbed by low weight people getting the surgery. However, I think the OP's case is a bit different in that this is a revision to previous surgeries. I do have the same fears that this will be sold as an easy way to lose weight for people who are in the 30-35 BMI range who can be perfectly healthy just not perfectly thin.

[iggychic 1,405]

I am disturbed. I do not think bariatric surgery is appropriate for children at all. I am also disturbed by low weight people getting the surgery. However' date=' I think the OP's case is a bit different in that this is a revision to previous surgeries. I do have the same fears that this will be sold as an easy way to lose weight for people who are in the 30-35 BMI range who can be perfectly healthy just not perfectly thin.[/quote']

why should those folks be denied? weight struggles for people 50lbs over weight are no less difficult than those with 150lbs to lose

[DanaInNewOrleans 513]

I was one of the posters who was kind of shocked that a physician actually performed this surgery on someone who was 154#.

BUT, after reading VSSupermodel's subsequent posts it is obvious she is poised, self aware and very intelligent. Maybe VSSupermodel intuitively knew that if she did not take precautionary measures she may very well end up like most of us here...obese or morbidly obese. If that is the case, well I can tell you that had someone said to me 30 years ago that they could prevent me from the pain and self loathing I've carried with me my entire life, I would have had it done it a split second, without hesitation.

I do have concerns that this surgery is primed for abuse--- think about it....real supermodels who already starve themselves to the size of anorexic teenage boys will want to have this surgery in order to starve themselves more comfortably. And I have no doubt there will be physicians lined up to cash in on it.

So, VSSupermodel, please accept my apologies for my initial "shocked" post. It's very obvious you've thought this out and I wish you all success! And by the way, you certainly handled all the negativity with a great deal of poise .... very impressive!!

[abetterme4.2 268]

I am disturbed. I do not think bariatric surgery is appropriate for children at all. I am also disturbed by low weight people getting the surgery. However' date=' I think the OP's case is a bit different in that this is a revision to previous surgeries. I do have the same fears that this will be sold as an easy way to lose weight for people who are in the 30-35 BMI range who can be perfectly healthy just not perfectly thin.[/quote']

Hhhmmm....well, I have a BMI of 35. I can't lose it. I work out with a trainer whom I pay $85 an hour 3 x per week and 2 on my own. I avg 45 mins on weights (intervals) and burn between 525-690 cals. I cycle outside for 60-90 Mins 4 x per week and average 930-1250 cals (depending on hills). Depending on the day, I eat 1500-1800 cals per day. My nutritionist and trainer are baffled. My PCP and endocrinologist has found a couple of small things, take a Vitamin stuff. So why am I stuck in a size 18 (230 lbs) and been stuck for 14 months? I'm not afraid of hard work. Some days its 2 1/2 hours of working out.

I am dimpled everywhere. I may be healthy (physically fit) and can run a half marathon....but I bet I could run like Forest Gump with the additional 70 lbs of fat gone. it's not good for my knees, my feet, my back, you get the picture.

I'm not asking to be perfectly thin. But I am entitled to my right to be vain! Lol.

I'm not looking for an "easy way to lose weight." From what I have read in the short time since I've been here, this is NOTHIING but easy. It will be hard work, just in a different way.

Just my two cents.

[tqmeri30 17]

I dont get it i thought this place was a support forum. Anybody who has had a sleeve would know that there is nothing easy about it. I really think that a sleeve.surgery like a band should not be reserved for obese people only. Anybody that says they are doing this procesure for health reasons only is a lie. The risks of WLS are no different than a boob job or a Tummy Tuck. Ladies we must come to terms that in a couple of years this procedure will be available to a bigger market. Remember ladies the sleeve will teach you to eat healthier. We live in a time where america does not know what health eating is. Supermodel i hope you dont get discourage.

[O.T.R. sleever 3,386]

1. Anybody that says they are doing this procesure for health reasons only is a lie.

2. The risks of WLS are no different than a boob job or a Tummy Tuck.

1. God, is that you? No? Then what makes you think that you know what anybodies motivations are for this surgery.

2. Please refrain from making completely false statements. I've never heard of anybody losing their stomach due to a tummy tuck or a boob job. Neither have I heard of anybody losing their life from complications in cosmetic surgery.

[Butterthebean 8,146]

Remember ladies the sleeve will teach you to eat healthier.

This is also highly debatable. The sleeve doesnt teach you anything. It certainly doesnt stop you from eating junk food nor does it guarantee you will lose weight or be healthier.