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Ok all need advice..feel like failing.
thinblueline replied to lroever's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You are not failing it sounds like you're trying to do to much to soon in that you're thinking you are eating to fast perhaps you are , my wife had gastric bypass years ago and she told me when she catches herself eating to fast she puts the fork down so that literally stops her from eating all together and it makes her aware what she's doing , she also told me in between bites even if she is not eating to fast she still puts' her fork down to get her in the habit of stopping herself from doing this , am i making sense, i cant say i know how you feel but i can tell you i eat fast and at times she watches me eat she says to me " if i ate as fast as you do i would get sick" i, i can only imagine how you must feel i can sense that you might be putting pressure on yourself to do it "perfect" there is no way to do it "perfect" there is only one way and that is your way and that's to try and slow down and remember its not a race therefore slow down the good thing is you are aware of it and that's huge some people never make that connection you did so you're a step ahead of the diet be gentle with yourself you will be ok i promise coming here and venting is so ok that's what we are here for , i am here if you want to talk and if we become friend who knows i wish you well truly i do just relax the rest will fall into place.😊 Coop -
April 2022 Surgery Buddies
Kr!stal replied to Crinkles's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
April 1st is fast approaching and I’m getting more and more nervous. Anyone else an April 1st date? -
Wanted to see what your program says about raw vegetables, bread and alcohol
catwoman7 replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
raw vegetables - I was told to wait about five months before trying them, too. They can be really hard on your pouch. To be honest, at seven years out, they're still sometimes hard on my pouch (not always, but sometimes). This sounds weird, but sometimes when I'm having a snack attack, I'll start eating raw vegetables because sometimes they irritate my stomach so much that I can't handle eating anything else. Stops an attack dead in its tracks.... alcohol - also told to wait a year. I actually waited about three years. I rarely drink - maybe three or four times a year. It goes right into your blood stream, so you get really buzzed really fast. They have you wait because transfer addiction is a common problem. Some people who've never had a problem with alcohol before surgery develop it afterward - so this is part of the rationale behind them advising you to wait. I don't think my program ever said anything about bread (although it's been quite awhile), but maybe yours is one that pushes an ultra-low-carb diet, as many of them seem to do. Mine was a balanced diet, so they didn't really care too much about carbs, as long as they were the good kind. Still, I think it was probably a year before I ate bread. I still don't eat it very often because it sometimes sits like a brick in my stomach. Another thing about bread is that it's not terribly nutritious, and the first few months you can only handle a small amount of food - so they want you to focus on super nutritious things. I think I started eating salads at about five or six months out. -
What do you guys think of this video?
I♡BypassedMyPhatAss♡ replied to DaisyAndSunshine's topic in Fitness & Exercise
Lol @ "you guys got to stop worrying about calories, calorie counting does not work" ~ Okay Dr Duc... Not calorie counting was a contributing factor to leading most of us to bariatric surgery. Some of what he says makes sense... increased activity can increase appetite, I agree with that. But not doing weight training until you're on the lower end of the normal BMI spectrum, I don't agree with that. It might not ever happen. Because as Catwoman7 said, statistically not all bariatric patients reach goal. But everyone can benefit from resistance training when they reach maintenance. There's sooooo many opinions out there on how to lose weight and how to build muscle, it can be confusing. You can talk to different doctors, different personal trainers and get a different opinion from each one. Workout while fasting, no, eat before working out, blah blah blah, etc... I think Dr Duc's Covid videos are laughable, and so are some of his bariatric videos. 🤷♀️ -
No problem. It's called the mini because it's a simpler surgery than the roux-en-y bypass. There's nothing called the full bypass (I think the duodenal switch people would disagree with roux-en-y being a more full bypass than theirs, too). Nope, MGB has a larger stomach and it's more open on the end, that's how it works: it delivers food to the small intestine really fast. This makes you feel satisfied very fast (but not stuffed) because the undigested food 'lands' further down the small intestine almost immediately. The body then says 'hold on, if we have this much undigested food all the way down here, better send signals we've had plenty of food'. Again, I assume you're referring to roux-en-y bypass, also called RNY or RYGB. I'm not the best to answer this; if I wanted restriction-only, I could've had my jaws wired shut, I guess? No surgery will fix the binge-eating hunger. (Group) therapy and hard and honest mental work will. I'd really look into other treatment options than surgery at this time, because it seems the issue is somewhere else? Thank you, that's very kind. I wouldn't be a very good-looking woman Best of luck! -
Ok all need advice..feel like failing.
ms.sss replied to lroever's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I didn’t try (nor was i advised) to practice post-op behaviours pre-op. While is may be helpful to get into the habit, it’s probably difficult to do without the physical feedback-response one would get AFTER the surgery. In any case, this is what *i* did after surgery: I used a timer (on my watch) to time my bites. I’d take one, maybe 2 bites, put my utensil down and set my timer to go off in 2-3 mins. At the buzzer if i felt like taking another bite or two, i would, if not, i’d time another 2-3 mins. If I didn’t want another bite after that, i called it and put my food back in the fridge for later. Yes, it took me FOREVER to eat in the first few few months (or was it a year?) but I learned very early on that if i ate too fast or too much, i would be barfing in the toilet in no time. Not pretty. I also learned early on that i could not drink about 30-45 mins after eating solids, or yep, cue more barfing (but i had zero problems drinking right up to the moment i ate solids). But everyone is different and you may find that it wont affect you as much, or maybe it will affect you more. As someone mentioned above, listen to your body, and act accordingly. You’ll know when you know. Good Luck! ❤️ -
Eating carbs (pasta, rice, or bread )
Guest replied to New_me_2022's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Yes, and immediately (as soon as possible, really). I've substituted white bread with protein pizza mix that I bake into little higher-protein rolls - that's great with cheese I eat rye bread I eat multigrain protein bread Do note I come from a culture that doesn't add sugar to bread; if I did it might've changed my opinion on bread in general. America has great keto bread, though. Franz' or whatever that brand is called. Rice sits pretty heavy with me, so I substitute cauliflower rice. I use the impastable pasta from this site, but I'll eat regular pasta, too, it just fills me up very fast for little protein value I love the mac n' cheese protein dinner from here, too - it's great with cubed ham, a little added cheese I wish I made this more, but fresh springrolls with the rice paper you dip in water ... yum, and a nice substitute for heavier tortilla-based wraps. And fruit. I eat tons of fruit. And popsicles. In general, I don't believe in anything but a balanced diet that hits my protein goals. I've yet to meet a happy person who's been doing keto for any significant amount of years (the few I have met seem highly disordered eating-affected and do not seem happy. Imagine never having a glass of wine or you'd fall out of ketosis or whatever ... snooze). -
Hi there - as I said in the reply in PMs, I thought I'd respond to these questions here so more people can hopefully benefit: It's probably surgeon dependent. There's not a lot of evidence that a bypass > 150cm induces a lot more weight loss than one at the now-standard 150cm. There's a lot of evidence it increases the risk of nutritional issues, though, because the longer it gets, the closer you are to a DS-like malabsorption. So consider your needs. The MGB is just a different bypass, not more or less full than RNY. The stomach is like a sleeve, but it's open in the end as opposed to the sleeve, meaning food passes through quickly. And that's the point of the surgery, to induce early satiety. If you're looking for forced restriction, MGB isn't it. I can eat whatever I want in basically the quantities I want. I just ... don't want to eat a lot because I feel full and satisfied! fast. But then again, if you're looking for forced restriction, therapy is where you want to go. No surgery will fix an eating disorder. Very. Hunger comes back, and I obviously can't compare any of them on myself, but the idea of MGB isn't to eliminate hunger. It's to make you feel feel and satisfied really fast, so you'll eat less, you'll naturally want to eat a better diet, and you'll be happy with that. Also, you asked somewhere else which surgeries had the most intestinal bypass. It goes like this: Band/Sleeve: None -- RNY -- MGB -- DS, with the loop-DS and longer-bypass MGB being fairly close to each other.
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What was your "this is it" moment
River Moon replied to jamaro2795's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Hi there, Jamaro. I understand the back and forth issue. I struggled with getting surgery for several years before I finally got it. I was actually ready to pursue it a couple of years prior to getting it, but my primary said I wasn't psychologically ready. She wanted me to continue working with my therapist on my eating issues. I'm still doing that after the surgery as well. My doctor put me on Victoza for blood sugar (now normal and no longer on Victoza) and said it could also help me lose. But, what finally told me "this is it" was one day when I went to a casino with my family. I was walking around and couldn't keep up with them. I was also the youngest in the group. I felt like I had a small child hanging around my torso and got so out of breath. At the time, I was taking prerequisites for nursing school, and knew that there was absolutely no way I could ever be the nurse I wanted to be with that physical condition. That was my moment. I made an appointment with my primary and told her I just didn't know what to do anymore. However, she surprised me when she said that she had seen my improvement with my eating disorder (binge-eating/purging), that she was recommending me surgery. I was ecstatic!! I immediately went home and started calling surgeons she recommended. Fast forward to now, I am currently in nursing school now (was floored when I got accepted), and I am feeling great on the hospital floor during clinicals. I'm also off most of my medication that I was taking due to my weight-related health issues. It was worth it for me, but I also knew I was ready for it. It's a big change, but so worth it when you're ready. I wish you luck as you examine this journey for your own life. 😊 -
Hello fellow DSers I have recently gained a few lbs and I’m freaking out. About 10 since fall with about 5-6 in the past 2 weeks (due to a bed rest situation/no exercise situation from a non related medical procedure I think). I am normally very active. I also do intermittent fasting. I work out about 2 hours a day 7 days a week with few exceptions. But to be honest I’m a terrible eater. I’m a sugar and carb addict and live my life a slave to my upset stomach (ds related) Again to be honest that has worked for me 2 years out I’ve lost 100% of my excess weight but it’s not working anymore. I went from 283 to 138 and am now about 148. How have you all handled these weight gains if you have had them? I’m afraid of the slippery slope. Should I go back to basics? Proteins and veggies? This is such a weird statement but I feel like the sugar is what has helped me get here bc I don’t keep the calories in (ya know) and I’m afraid to give it up. Any advise appreciated. TIA
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3 years out and still afraid of gaining the weight back
toodlerue replied to RachaelLou's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Sounds a lot like me. I lost 60 after the surgery. Never got down to my goal, just 10 pounds away. They I started to eat crap, I quickly put on 30. Last February my friend talked me into doing the Fast Metabolism Diet by Haily Pomroy, your gonna have to Google it. You eat really clean it’s just what you eat in 3 different phases. We followed it for a couple months & then just continued to eat clean. In August I hit my goal weight!! I have been hanging out 130-135 since then. Still try to eat clean. We are going on a cruise in September & I am super nervous about that! -
Ok all need advice..feel like failing.
Danny Paul replied to lroever's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I still eat fast but with WLS I fill up quick my restriction kicks right in. Unfortunately those of us who are lifetime fast eaters still tend to be . Don't worry too much about it. -
I fast between 7PM to 7AM daily and do a 36 hour fast mid week. I stop eating at 7PM on Wednesday and resume eating at 7AM on Friday. During this time I only drink water or tea. I have watched Dr. Fung on You Tube and incorporate his ideas into my overall maintenance plan. It's one more tool in the weight maintenance tool kit.
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What worked for me after some regain was to combine 'time restricted feeding' (i.e. intermittent fasting) with a low carb/low insulin diet plan. I skipped breakfast and only ate two meals a day, at Noon and by 6pm. This let me 'fast' for 18 hours per day. I ate about 3-4 oz. of protein (beef, chicken, fish, etc.) and green vegetables such as green beans, broccoli, salad, etc. for each meal. I was able to drop close to 20 pounds doing this in a couple months. The basis of this is the insulin control program developed by Dr. Jason Fung. You can search his name on the internet and find a lot of useful information. He is the author of the book The Obesity Code.
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Ok all need advice..feel like failing.
SleeverSk replied to lroever's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Yes chewing your food is very important especially in the beginning. I think you will find in the early stages you will be forced to eat slower simply because you cant eat fast, at 8 months out I have the occasional ooops i ate to fast but that depends mostly on the food but I pretty much eat the same way I did prior to surgery, I find it happens more with drinks especially sodas and when that happens you take the next mouthful a bit more carefully -
Ok all need advice..feel like failing.
SleeverSk replied to lroever's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
dont worry about, I am still a fast eater nothing dreadful has happened -
Now thinking if canceling surgery 🥺
SleeverSk replied to Happy Stylist's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Don't over think it, This fear (GERD) drove me to have a melt down right before surgery and to be highly anxious for weeks after surgery. I had reflux before surgery for many years and had been on 20-40 mg of Nexium daily for about 15 years and as my weight got higher so did the occurrence of my reflux to the point of along with the Nexium I was going through a bottle of Gaviscon a week. fast forward 8 months post op I still take 20 mg Nexium daily but only because I am to scared to tapper off as I remember the rebound reflux from prior to surgery when I would try to come off them and I have to be honest I suck a Gaviscon dual tablet if I get the slightest inkling of reflux which I think half the time is in my head lol. So prior to surgery I told my surgeon reflux was my biggest fear as I didn't want a bypass either and I certainly didn't want to have to have a second surgery, He said the weight loss would reduce the reflux and I think he is right. its just my own fears and thinking about it and sometimes eating the wrong things or too much that causes me get reflux now and its pretty mild. Now I am going to say this and I don't mean any offence to anyone as it is just what I have observed, a lot people who have had revision surgery due to GERD/reflux also seem to have had a substantial weight gain too, now if anyone out there has experienced different I stand corrected but that's what I have noticed. So that is a pretty good incentive for me not to regain. Talk to your surgeon though as he/she is the best to advise you we can only share our experiences -
February 2022 Surgery Buddies
Doddlemom replied to MeganMyers's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
Oh my goodness the noises! Lol I get them too. I lost 20 in my pre op diet and then 10 after surgery. I’m not losing super fast after surgery since I’m not eating enough protein. I’m adding it all together though as my total loss to keep me staying positive. Congratulations on your 20 lbs loss! -
So I have gotten different answers from my doctor's office (nutritionist, doctor, post-surgery team, etc.). I am meal prepping on the weekends and I portion my food into small 1/4 cup portion cups, that are typically used for dressings and condiments (I LOVE THESE THINGS!). Anyway, I noticed that at times, I can eat 2 of these within an hour (making it 1/2 cup), while other times I really can only have one of them before I feel restriction. I am so worried about damaging my stomach or busting a suture. What amounts of food have you guys been able to tolerate at 1 month post op? Also, bear in mind that my doctor's office moved me from liquid to pureed after week 1... then from pureed to soft food on week 3. I am on soft food for another couple of weeks before it's venturing out to regular food. Is there a good rule of thumb in the bariatric world to follow? Like maybe only eat 1/4 cup for each "meal" and have 4-5 "meals" per day? I always get the answer "it's variable and depends on the patient." I think I'd prefer some type of structure to go by. Also, my doctor said I wouldn't have to worry about dumping because I had the sleeve, and it's very uncommon; however, I have noticed that if I eat too fast, or don't wait 45-60 mins to drink after eating, that I get diarrhea. It's short-lived thank God, but it still is hard to prevent (which makes for a pretty uncomfortable environment at work!!) It sounds like dumping, but he said it's common... thoughts?
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5 Months out. Just had a whole candy bar.
JDLane replied to GodsProperty's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Like others have said, just don't make a habit out of it. Part of the reason I had this surgery is because I don't want to continue the lifetime of diets and guilt with eating. I want to lose the weight and just have a healthy relationship with food, that includes the occasional candy bar. Beating yourself up or being overly restrictive may lead to more binges. Just accept it happened and move on. If you find yourself desperate for candy try to find an alternative option or go for a mini size. But this first year is your fast lane for weight loss and you should try to maximize that as much as possible. I was on Protonix for 2 months post op and still have it for as needed. I was never prescribed the other med you mentioned. -
5 Months out. Just had a whole candy bar.
GodsProperty posted a topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I just had a king size chocolate bar with nuts. I feel so stupid and I'm really scared. Did I start a slippery slope? It was my first time to eat this much candy/chocolate. But I don't feel physically great about it. I feel like lately I've been in bad shape. I have been eating too fast, and I find it really hard to eat slowly. So I am thinking maybe that has something to do with it. Question for you guys too. How long did your doctors prescribe Nexium/Prilosec? And were any of you prescribed Ursodiol? -
When I had my band, and foods got stuck, I'd chew a papaya enzyme. It has a digestive enzyme called papain and it helps sort of break up the stuck food. It saved me so many times. It might be worth trying. Perhaps get some and have on hand for times such as these. I hope it moves along fast. 😩
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just so you know, a 10- to 20 lb rebound from your lowest weight is VERY common in year 3. I think it's just your body settling in to a weight it feels comfortable at - your new "set point". Of course, you can still lose again if you cut enough calories - but it could be a bit of a struggle if you're fighting against where your body wants to be. I've been dealing with the same thing since year 3 (and here I am in year seven...). different things work for different people. I count calories, which my dietitian hates (she's into "intuitive eating"), but I'm obviously not cutting back enough or I'd be losing weight. It's tough... I know other vets who've done Weight Watchers, Keto, and/or intermittent fasting. Whatever works - some approaches are more effective than others, depending on the person. to respond to your questions (sort of, anyway...), I don't do low carb - but the vast majority of my carbs are the healthy kind (fruit, veggies, whole grains). I have to average around 100 grams of protein a day because I malabsorb it (we discovered this pretty soon after my surgery), and I do manage to get that in every day. Other than protein, it's really just calories for me. If I stay in the 1500-1700 range, I can maintain my weight - but I'd really love to lose 10-15 lbs (!!)
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This has been so accurate for me! I will drop 10-15 lbs really fast, and then it will slow down/stop for a bit, and then drop fast again. Repeat. I have to give myself a pep talk every time it happens!
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Negative comments from family members
Guest replied to fourmonthspreop's topic in Gastric Bypass Surgery Forums
Ask them if they'd ask a cancer patient what's going to stop the patient from getting cancer again. That should shut them up real fast. Obesity is a complex hormonal, social, full-body disease. One that requires chronic management. It's not a moral failure.
