numinousvessel

I was going to call this Break On Through To The Other Side (thank you Doors). But I figured I'd get sick of it after a while. I'm going to use this space to keep track on the 2 week march toward surgery and then to keep track of the recovery and progress. That way I can keep it all together and if I just do one thread, it's all in one place without clogging up the Blog Area. I'm sure it's gonna be excruciatingly boring to everyone--me included! I'm a list and minutia kinda gal. I like tracking and counting--although I can be equally lax about crap. So I stop just short of OCD town (not that there's anything wrong with that).
My official 2 week liquid diet starts tomorrow. I decided to jump on it today because Sunday feels like a great place to start and because it's hard to do better than yesterday as my last food day before surgery. I'm a Texan, born and raised, and yesterday we had a fairwell to my ass and thighs via a Texas BBQ tour through Houston and Tomball. I ate so much brisket, sausage and ribs, I can honestly claim to be over it. Growing up in a BBQ family, slow smoked meats is almost in my blood. So it was only natural that I would choose that as the last rights.
I'm having RNY on February 20th and as I understand it, moist (fatty) brisket might not be my friend post surgery. Supposedly high fat foods (which moist brisket is) might cause a sort of "dumping" in the poop department. So I figure my future, once healed, might only include lean cuts of brisket and smoked meats. It's a choice I will readily make to lose weight and get my health back.
So the morning Day 1 hasn't been very difficult--a little hunger and growly tummy, but nothing that makes me feel anxiety. Protein Drinks on board and this afternoon will shop for SF popsicles, SF Jello and Bone Broth. I think I'll stick to packaged bone broth so I can get the actual nutritional information from a certified source. There's no real way for me to tell how many calories and carbs are in the bone broth I make here at home.
My Pre-Op Plan includes: 80-100g of protein; low fat; 60g carbs and somewhere around 1000cals per day.
4-5 Protein drinks containing a minimum of 15g of protein per serving. They must be low fat and low sugar and can't contain over 4g of sugar per serving. I can have clear low sodium broths, sugar free drinks, sugar free jello and sugar free clear popsicles (no fudgsicles or ice cream based pops).
I will do this from now until February 20th.
I'm pretty sure I will be doing plenty of the following:

@numinousvessel I will be looking for positive reports from your in May. I am thinking May 18th will be a very positive day in your life. When this is finished everything else will,selem like a bad dteam

im so super sorry this happened to you. heres to hoping you have a successful op the second time around

Hi @numinousvessel - and thanks for the message.
There are a few people here stuck a bit in limbo - they and you have my huge admiration at how you all manage a wait without knowing.
You might find it interesting to read the thread called “Out with the old in with the new” by fluffychix. Her wait was extraordinary, until she got surgery just a couple of weeks ago.
Take care, my friend.

Numinousvessel I was worried about you, not all those other people. My road to my RnY has turned complicated also but I want to be here for you just as a friend. I can tell you my problems at another time, suffice it to say I got kicked to the curb by my bariatric program after completely doing all requirements. Now I must enroll in another program if They will accept me. So we have a commonality there. I will listen if you want to talk more.
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This has nothing to do with your surgery and this post does not give any information that is helpful to your situation. Either post a new OP or find a forum and board with the correct information. This is about an aborted rny surgery due to adhesions. It has nothing to do with pain medicine, management, or gas pain.

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Hello everyone. I have had some set backs. I was declined as a patient at tricentennial in Nashville as they believe I have Crohn's disease due to the surgeon's report and all of my test results that span years before I decided to have surgery. My home clinic has specific paperwork about mental illness and declined me as well, but it was terrible. I am now currently back with Dr.Wegner in Memphis. He has agreed to the sleeve. I start my pre-op liver shrink diet again on the 27. My surgery will be may 18. Hopefully, all will go as planned and I can look back on this and not feel so emotional or broken. Thank you all for your words of encouragement.

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Hello everyone. I have had some set backs. I was declined as a patient at tricentennial in Nashville as they believe I have Crohn's disease due to the surgeon's report and all of my test results that span years before I decided to have surgery. My home clinic has specific paperwork about mental illness and declined me as well, but it was terrible. I am now currently back with Dr.Wegner in Memphis. He has agreed to the sleeve. I start my pre-op liver shrink diet again on the 27. My surgery will be may 18. Hopefully, all will go as planned and I can look back on this and not feel so emotional or broken. Thank you all for your words of encouragement.

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I went on January 16 for gastric bypass. I woke up about an hour after being put under to a nurse in the recovery area telling me they did not complete my surgery because of complications. I have multiple adhesions and my intestines are stuck together so much that my anatomy does not look like it should. My surgeon did not want to complete the surgery until I could be told. He has given me the option to have him do a sleeve or for him to refer me out to someone who still does open bypass surgery.
I cannot explain the mind f**k this was and the anxiety I am feeling. This is terrible. I knew something was going to happen or be found. I knew that I was right. Something was going to be found that would explain the symptoms I had had for years at this point. These adhesions do not show up on scans of any sort unless you have an obstruction. I have only had one other surgery in my abdomen and it was a laparoscopic appendectomy 10 years ago. He thinks it stems from chronic inflammation and autoimmune **** that I have.
Has anybody had an open procedure for bypass? What's your experience? Or has anyone been opened up and not finished?
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I went on January 16 for gastric bypass. I woke up about an hour after being put under to a nurse in the recovery area telling me they did not complete my surgery because of complications. I have multiple adhesions and my intestines are stuck together so much that my anatomy does not look like it should. My surgeon did not want to complete the surgery until I could be told. He has given me the option to have him do a sleeve or for him to refer me out to someone who still does open bypass surgery.
I cannot explain the mind f**k this was and the anxiety I am feeling. This is terrible. I knew something was going to happen or be found. I knew that I was right. Something was going to be found that would explain the symptoms I had had for years at this point. These adhesions do not show up on scans of any sort unless you have an obstruction. I have only had one other surgery in my abdomen and it was a laparoscopic appendectomy 10 years ago. He thinks it stems from chronic inflammation and autoimmune **** that I have.
Has anybody had an open procedure for bypass? What's your experience? Or has anyone been opened up and not finished?
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This has nothing to do with your surgery and this post does not give any information that is helpful to your situation. Either post a new OP or find a forum and board with the correct information. This is about an aborted rny surgery due to adhesions. It has nothing to do with pain medicine, management, or gas pain.

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Don’t worry, it’s very uncommon to have this happen. On the up side recovery has been easy. Off pain meds by second day. Driving by day 3. Good luck!

I'm having surgery next week and this is my worst fear!!!

Sorry to hear that, super frustrating! I personally would go with the sleeve if it can be done safely and laparoscopicly. An Open bypass isn't that crazy, but you end up with a huge scar and more healing to do. The risk of a hernia is much higher. I know someone who had one and their recovery was fine, just much slower, but they did have to have hernia surgery to repair a hernia years later (they also didn't follow instructions that well and probably over did it).
Like with anything else I'd suggest talking to both surgeons and getting opinions of what they think. For example can the adhesions even be cleaned up, or is it going to be worse if they try? I'm guessing they won't do either proceedure for a couple months until you heal, so you have nothing to lose by getting a couple expert opinions. You could also talk to a thoracic surgeon about what they think.

So sorry I know how you feel. I was opened up for a sleeve and it was cancelled due to a large hiatal hernia. So pissed off! After 2 weeks on a liquid diet and total terror I wake up with nothing done! And I still have to recover!

About 6 years ago a friend of mine had the open surgery in MA. He was in the hospital for 3 days and out of work for 3 weeks. He did have to sleep in a recliner for a week or so because going from laying down to getting up caused him a lot of pain along his incision. He didn't have any problems and did really well. He does have a crazy scar but he's ok with that. His surgeon recommended it, I never knew why.

I went on January 16 for gastric bypass. I woke up about an hour after being put under to a nurse in the recovery area telling me they did not complete my surgery because of complications. I have multiple adhesions and my intestines are stuck together so much that my anatomy does not look like it should. My surgeon did not want to complete the surgery until I could be told. He has given me the option to have him do a sleeve or for him to refer me out to someone who still does open bypass surgery.
I cannot explain the mind f**k this was and the anxiety I am feeling. This is terrible. I knew something was going to happen or be found. I knew that I was right. Something was going to be found that would explain the symptoms I had had for years at this point. These adhesions do not show up on scans of any sort unless you have an obstruction. I have only had one other surgery in my abdomen and it was a laparoscopic appendectomy 10 years ago. He thinks it stems from chronic inflammation and autoimmune **** that I have.
Has anybody had an open procedure for bypass? What's your experience? Or has anyone been opened up and not finished?
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I went on January 16 for gastric bypass. I woke up about an hour after being put under to a nurse in the recovery area telling me they did not complete my surgery because of complications. I have multiple adhesions and my intestines are stuck together so much that my anatomy does not look like it should. My surgeon did not want to complete the surgery until I could be told. He has given me the option to have him do a sleeve or for him to refer me out to someone who still does open bypass surgery.
I cannot explain the mind f**k this was and the anxiety I am feeling. This is terrible. I knew something was going to happen or be found. I knew that I was right. Something was going to be found that would explain the symptoms I had had for years at this point. These adhesions do not show up on scans of any sort unless you have an obstruction. I have only had one other surgery in my abdomen and it was a laparoscopic appendectomy 10 years ago. He thinks it stems from chronic inflammation and autoimmune **** that I have.
Has anybody had an open procedure for bypass? What's your experience? Or has anyone been opened up and not finished?
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I went on January 16 for gastric bypass. I woke up about an hour after being put under to a nurse in the recovery area telling me they did not complete my surgery because of complications. I have multiple adhesions and my intestines are stuck together so much that my anatomy does not look like it should. My surgeon did not want to complete the surgery until I could be told. He has given me the option to have him do a sleeve or for him to refer me out to someone who still does open bypass surgery.
I cannot explain the mind f**k this was and the anxiety I am feeling. This is terrible. I knew something was going to happen or be found. I knew that I was right. Something was going to be found that would explain the symptoms I had had for years at this point. These adhesions do not show up on scans of any sort unless you have an obstruction. I have only had one other surgery in my abdomen and it was a laparoscopic appendectomy 10 years ago. He thinks it stems from chronic inflammation and autoimmune **** that I have.
Has anybody had an open procedure for bypass? What's your experience? Or has anyone been opened up and not finished?
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I went on January 16 for gastric bypass. I woke up about an hour after being put under to a nurse in the recovery area telling me they did not complete my surgery because of complications. I have multiple adhesions and my intestines are stuck together so much that my anatomy does not look like it should. My surgeon did not want to complete the surgery until I could be told. He has given me the option to have him do a sleeve or for him to refer me out to someone who still does open bypass surgery.
I cannot explain the mind f**k this was and the anxiety I am feeling. This is terrible. I knew something was going to happen or be found. I knew that I was right. Something was going to be found that would explain the symptoms I had had for years at this point. These adhesions do not show up on scans of any sort unless you have an obstruction. I have only had one other surgery in my abdomen and it was a laparoscopic appendectomy 10 years ago. He thinks it stems from chronic inflammation and autoimmune **** that I have.
Has anybody had an open procedure for bypass? What's your experience? Or has anyone been opened up and not finished?
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Hi there @numinousvessel
I had open surgery 5 weeks ago. Actually it was pretty ok. I spent a bit more time in hospital than my surgery buddies, 5 days, but the recovery was swift. I was up and walking the next day, and a bit more every day. Today my regimen is back to pre-surgery, I am back at work. One plus side - you don’t get the nasty gas pain I vividly remember from my gastric band laparoscopic surgery!
Feel free to pm me for a chat, or ask here...

The only person I've seen who had an open and still active is@biddynz, probably in New Zealand, you might try her on here or PM her, her postings sound like she's a very nice lady and its only been a month or so since her surgery. I hope you're still get your surgery and soon, its like yanking the lollipop away at the,last moment.

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Eeek! I am sorry that you've had to undergo this. If it were me, I would absolutely not go open bariatric surgery. If the procedure could not be done laprascopically, it is a no go. Consider going the sleeve route then. I don't go for surgery until next month but if I have this kind of situation, a sleeve is still better than the alternative of continuing to be obese and have health problems.

Soooo so sorry for your results in this lap surgery!!! Hugs and prayers!!!
If it were me, I'd have them get me the best surgeon and do it open, have them clean up as many adhesions as possible and get the bypass. Then I would eat as low inflammatory diet as possible!

I understand what you because they try to do revision of gastro bypass back July 2017 and the doctor aborted the surgery because he stated they I have to much scar tissues. Now I am waiting for approved to have done but they will have to open me like they did back in 1995.