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You can get a sample pack from Celebrate directly for $9.95. All the flavors of multi plus Iron & calcium chews and B12 melt. Also some Protein Shake mixes. The $9.95 is applied towards purchase so sample pack is free if you buy. The chewable Multivitamins have decent taste but I am preop so cannot say if I will like them AFTER.

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Yes! Me too! I will be 6 weeks out as of tomorrow. I feel like I don’t even have a pouch. I want to get an X-ray to be sure. lol. I too stop from eating because I don’t want to stretch my pouch. I am getting about 500/600 calories a day. My nutritionist got promoted so I’m on my own til they find a replacement. I need to know if I’m doing the right things. I have no guidelines like I did with the sleeve. I know I am to eat less. But how much less because I don’t get full.

Yes! Me too! I will be 6 weeks out as of tomorrow. I feel like I don’t even have a pouch. I want to get an X-ray to be sure. lol. I too stop from eating because I don’t want to stretch my pouch. I am getting about 500/600 calories a day. My nutritionist got promoted so I’m on my own til they find a replacement. I need to know if I’m doing the right things. I have no guidelines like I did with the sleeve. I know I am to eat less. But how much less because I don’t get full.

9 months ago guys I was at my heaviest weight ever at 304 lbs. Today 7.5 months post surgery I am currently at 179 pounds. I am so happy and so proud of my self! you should all be as well. This has been a great journey so far with no negative side affects so far and I wanted to share it with all you guys!! Hugs to you all!!! 😄

Pose the question directly to your surgeon.
He may know some info on if Fasting would exacerbate your GERD/help promote healing.
I would start there because first and foremost protect the possibility of this new surgery working well & lasting a lifetime.

I would suggest NOT doing IF until you are much farther out post op and able to eat more with each meal. It's so important right now to get all your Protein in, and as much nutrition as you can. That could be very hard to do in a small window of eating time. I was doing IF long before surgery, but I still waited until closer to 5-6 months post op when I started again. You are already in a pretty extreme caloric deficit, simply due to the surgery. IMHO, it is best to work on trying to get all your protein and food groups in for now. IF will always be there as an additional tool.

I think a rule of thumb, is to follow your doc's progression plan for you that includes any special thing for the GERD and esophagus healing.
And, after 6-9 months when you are safely able to easily consume your daily Protein in 1-3 meals per day, start looking at compressing your eating window. If it were me, I'd start by only eating 3 meals (will all/most protein coming from food sources and not protein drinks) and start with doing an 13/11 TRE (13 hours fasting/11 hours eating, time restricted eating). Then when comfy, I'd move to a 14/10, then to a 16/8, then to an 18:6). Within those later frames consider if you are easily able to consume most of your protein from food sources rather than Protein Drinks.
The purpose of fasting is not only to have weight loss, but to tighten up your health by not eating "less" rather, eating less frequently so your body and mitochondria have time to properly process the food you do put in. And that the food you put in is as nutritionally dense and healthy as possible. (ie clean food). Cuz that's when you not only get weight loss, but you also get a reduction in cravings, appetite, meal sizes normalize, and you get a whole slew of health benefits!!
I'd say, just spend the next few months healing and reading here on this thread and in books to educated yourself and learn about IF.
Welcome btw!

Thank you ladies. Both great advice. I’ll try and track my surgeon down although it is very difficult to reach him.

I appreciate any information that you can share with me because I do not have a team. Right now my doctors office does not have a nutritionist or dietitian. My surgeon actually said he was not concerned about weight loss but more concerned with my Gerd. So I’m kind of new at this. I’m just going by the directions that I got from my sleeve surgery. But I think that there is a difference and I have no one to ask but everyone on here. So I really really appreciate your response and any other little tidbits you can share.

OK I get the intermittent fasting method burns better than regular eating. My problem is I’m confused on whether to do the fasting during the day or at night. So confused I don’t know what to do. I am 10 weeks out from a revision from sleeve to bypass should I be trying this fasting right now or is it only during maintenance?

Thank you ladies. Both great advice. I’ll try and track my surgeon down although it is very difficult to reach him.

I appreciate any information that you can share with me because I do not have a team. Right now my doctors office does not have a nutritionist or dietitian. My surgeon actually said he was not concerned about weight loss but more concerned with my Gerd. So I’m kind of new at this. I’m just going by the directions that I got from my sleeve surgery. But I think that there is a difference and I have no one to ask but everyone on here. So I really really appreciate your response and any other little tidbits you can share.

Thank you ladies. Both great advice. I’ll try and track my surgeon down although it is very difficult to reach him.

OK I get the intermittent fasting method burns better than regular eating. My problem is I’m confused on whether to do the fasting during the day or at night. So confused I don’t know what to do. I am 10 weeks out from a revision from sleeve to bypass should I be trying this fasting right now or is it only during maintenance?

My revision from sleeve to gastric bypass was May 23, 2019. I am still having to battle my addiction to sugar. It’s a tool and sometimes were able to cheat but I have to learn how to stop emotionally eating and kick the sugar out the door.

There are 2 big myths of WLS:
1. Dumping--people have these surgeries hoping for that negative feedback for their addictions. But if you don't change your head, nothing will change. You will still cheat with sugar. Whether or not your get sick. You will find a way to have your addiction. You can NOT depend on a TOOL to do the work if you use it the wrong way. And the real truth is that only 30% of RNY patients experiencing dumping and substantially fewer VSG peeps (maybe 3-5%?). And that dumping goes away sometimes the longer you are post surgery.
2. Restriction & Malabsorption--people believe their restriction and/or malabsorption will last for life and that they can eat anything they want cuz their "tool" will protect them and magically make them observe a moderate behavior. But moderate behavior begins with a choice in the brain and if you don't change your head, nothing in your behavior will change. People eat around their tool every day. I could eat an entire huge order of etouffee from Pappadeaux's if I ate a few bites every 10-15 minutes. I'd probably finish it within an hour! And I would have had 2 -3 days of calories in one meal. I could have a bite of Crispy Creme donut every 15-30 minutes and at the end of the day have eating 4-5 of them. I would not have dumped and I'd be craptastically full of sugar, carbs, and fat. I would have absorbed a ton of the cals. See where I'm going? In addition, both your restriction and malabsorption lessens the further out you are from the surgery.
WLS only ever was intended to give people a brief honeymoon period where they could lose substantial amounts of weight and potentially reset their metabolic health so that they could then go on to learn new healthy habits for living and behaving with food/learn proper nutrition practices and live a healthy thin life the rest of their lives.
Do your head work and let your tool do the job it's supposed to do. You are responsible for using your tool correctly. Don't bring a hammer to a screwdriver fight. Use your tool the way it's intended and it will serve you well--for life.

I don't dump - and many of us don't.
that said, I feel like crap if I eat too much sugar in one sitting.
I was very averse to sweet things early after surgery, but not so much anymore. BUT....as I said, I can't eat a lot of it at once. A cookie or two I can handle. A half dozen Cookies would make me feel like crap.

I am in Seymour Missouri

I’m sorry for the long rant but I want you to see the full picture: sleeve vs. sleeve + behavior modification/commitment.
You’re 2 weeks out. Don’t be so hard on yourself or doubt your decision. What is done is done. No regrets. This could be the beginning of an amazing healthy future. No looking back now — only ahead...
Here we go:
I am 7 years post sleeve and I’ve regained all of my weight back and some. Highest weight before sleeve was 210, Surgery day weight was 193 (done in Mexico). I got down to 147 and maintained that for about 2 years and then started regaining. I’m 214 now.
According to my current U.S. surgeon (Dr. Stanley Klein), my Mexico surgeon (Dr. Ariel Ortiz) completely blotched my sleeve in 30 minutes (surgery report information) making it look like an hourglass instead of a banana.
BUT, I regained not because of my “bad” sleeve but because I changed my eating habits. I have A LOT of restriction still, more than a friend who’s 4 years out. I also became very anemic which caused me to pass out and get into an accident in 2014. I’m terrible about taking my Vitamins, so that’s also not my sleeve’s fault. I then received multiple infusions over the years, had my esophagus dilated twice because I wasn’t eating enough (mostly GERD pain related) and developed a grazing eating style (probably the biggest contributor to why I regained).
Having GERD since day 1 (couldn’t keep any liquids down/stayed on IV till I was literally kicked out - started putting my stuff outside - to get room ready for next patient), a hiatal hernia and two ulcers, I am now revising to the RNY (surgery date TBD 8/1/19). My malabsorption/malnutrition is because I don’t take any Vitamins. I’ve become “nutritionally crippled” as my surgeon put it which makes my body crave carbs for immediate conversion to energy. It’s literally biologically driven at this point and he told me not to blame myself for the regain — he’s so nice but I do blame myself because I got myself here! Due to the malnutrition, I’ve developed some metabolically induced issues: thyroid problem, autoimmune problem, multiple infections that antibiotics do nothing for (or maybe I’ve become prone to the antibiotics) and lately, small Fiber neuropathy (worst feet tingling and burning ever).
I’ve now started going to CBT and support groups that are super informative and fun. Last time they had a practical activity for us at the end where we pretended to be at a restaurant, were given real menus and we discussed why some choices are good and why some are not so good — keywords to lookout for, etc. I’m considering pushing my surgery date as far out as possible to be better prepared through these new resources.
I realize the problem is not my sleeve. The problem is my head — my food abuse issues, my food addiction issues, my head hunger, my emotional eating... The list of “synonyms” goes on! But in essence, all of us are here because we have these issues plus obesity/genetically related comorbidities or else, we would have not resorted to surgically modifying our anatomy. We need to fix our relationship with food if our surgeries are ever going to help us, and that’s why I’m trying to work on that more than anything this time especially because I didn’t have any pre or post care before. I’d love to get rid of my GERD and the other problems but I’d really hate to fail at losing weight, again. Not out of vanity but just to prove to myself that I can triumph over years of using food to feed disease instead of health.
Summary and awesome thing to keep in mind:
“You get out of it what you put into it.”
Thank you @Macy6! I love that... Great motto!
Take this opportunity to change your relationship with food. You are in the “honeymoon phase” where your body is not ready to accept food (it’s all head hunger), so use this time wisely to identify your emotions and cravings, knowing you can’t act on them now with your healing stomach. Later, this will really help you... when you can map your behaviors to their origin in thought (triggers) and stop the unwanted behavior right in its tracks! You’re in control! Your taste buds may also change so what you’ve liked before, you may no longer want to eat, so this is also a great opportunity to try new healthy things and learn to like those instead of our old ways that hurt us in the end.
I really wish this was helpful. I’m being as transparent as possible to give you vision into what the sleeve is and what it’s not, because I went into this initially thinking the sleeve will stop me from overeating and I’ll always have an accountability buddy, but you can drink and eat your way around any WLS out there and gain weight, not to discount the RNY for the additional malabsorption component...
You can do this!! You can use your sleeve to change and become a new person INSIDE (head/habits) out (health/body). I wish you complete healing and all the best for your future.

I am a bypass myself, but anyone saying the sleeve is a "waste of time" in posts just needs to read the tons of sucess stories of sleevers here... they are pretty awesome.
Don't let those random internet postings get into your head. (((Hugs)))
You have a great tool now, and you can do as much as you want on this journey!!!
Best wishes for lots of success.

Yes! Me too! I will be 6 weeks out as of tomorrow. I feel like I don’t even have a pouch. I want to get an X-ray to be sure. lol. I too stop from eating because I don’t want to stretch my pouch. I am getting about 500/600 calories a day. My nutritionist got promoted so I’m on my own til they find a replacement. I need to know if I’m doing the right things. I have no guidelines like I did with the sleeve. I know I am to eat less. But how much less because I don’t get full.

Congratulations that's awesome news. Hopefully you can give us some helpful tips that you have used during your journey.
I had sleeve Oct 25th will be 3 years but am going on July 16th for RNY revision surgery due to severe reflux disease getting worse.
I lost 87 with the sleeve the first year. Up and down ever since.
I want to loose about 80 more pounds.
Please message me your tips or text me 803 665 0931.I live in SC
Allie

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Hmmm That’s a good idea. I think I will try it. I have several episodes on my DVR.

Vitamin Shoppe, even local Health food Stores. Do not go to Krogers of their amalgamated family, my local one has a pea-pour selection. overpriced, their only tastes seem to be vanilla and chocolate Protein Shakes. As a person on Protein enriched shakes and waters, I have done many. And my current favorite is from Ensure, home based on Columbus Ohio 50 miles away. I have also done Protein 2 0, for some reason can't find Premier Protein clears, sometimes I add Minute Maid 15 juices to cut the sweetness or mask the flavors I don't like as MUCH. I suppose WM only sends what they think will move best, seldom ones I really like. There is always Wal-Mart.com, our own Bariatric Pal Store is wonderful, doesn't take long to make it to Ohio, good selection and prices not bad at all. I would never order from that trecherous spider, Amazon, they work their people into early exhaustion, refuse pregnant women their bathroom breaks, got to keep that item per minute quota UP, starting at $15+ per hour does not excuse their workplace abuses, Jeff Bezos grow fatter in the wallet! When I worked at W-M, I was lucky I worked in an essential department, only times I had to help with truck unloading was when we had duplicate people who could work my area also. You hear Bad Things about WM, never was as bad as the Amazon bloated arachnid, plus I was already in my 60s, usually pulled the 50 and under people. They knew people my age have an inherent cardiac danger, besides I was a very good customer contact person, so was used on the retail areas. Hurray for Frustr8, the people pleaser!