Hiraeth

I actually had to re-read everything you said just in case I missed something...

You did not write anything that could even be taken slightly offensive. Everything you wrote was extremely helpful and polite.

In my opinion, I think the people who thought your advice was offensive, are probably upset that they aren't at their goal, or didn't show up to class. I guess they envy your knowledge and outstanding ability to give advice.

I also did not know having a runny nose was a sign of being full. Unfortunately, I dealt with the "stuck" feeling in my sternum when I got out of surgery. So much fun... *sarcasm*

I appreciate the time you took to write everything. That was very kind of you.

I haven't read the responses to this post, so I apologize if my response is repetitive.

MyFitnessPal is not designed for Bariatric patients. It is designed for people who are wanting to diet without having the surgery. My guess is, non-WLS individuals have to eat at least 1,300 - 2,000 calories each day, in order to keep their stomachs "sane". Since our stomachs are smaller, it's easier for us to function on a low calorie and high Protein diet.

I tried MyFitnessPal years ago (before my WLS), and it worked for a while. I can only imagine how discouraged I would have felt if I could only eat 500 - 800 calories each day. I'd have felt like I was starving!

I think MFP is a great app. Just try to keep your calories at the number your doctor suggested, and monitor your protein/water intake.

My coworkers that don't know about my surgery are always stopping me & asking "are you losing weight?" I just say yes, thanks for noticing, then I try to scurry off but they ALL then want to ask a million questions - how are you doing it, what are you eating, are the shakes working, are you full? JEEZ.

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I usually tell people (the ones I don't want knowing about the surgery) that I'm just watching what I eat and keeping myself busy. That way, you're not completely lying, and you may even motivate them to start watching what they eat.

@@Hiraeth Thanks for your reply. You are correct, I was insulted. However after reading the post others have made I will make a conscious effort to look at it from a different perspective. There are some people who don't mean any harm. However there are some who express themselves in a rude way which can be taken as malicious. Loosing an average of 3 pounds a week almost consistently can appear dramatic.

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So, their tone or facial expression came off as rude? Now, that can definitely change my perspective. If they spoke to you a certain way, or gave you a negative look, then I'd just pop it right back.

To the overweight lady, I'd probably say, "It's ok to be jealous. I'm well aware of how much weight I need to lose. From the looks of it, you are the last person to be giving me advice." (Ok, maybe that is a bit mean. But I have a coworker who is over 400 pounds, and she makes comments that are obviously motivated by envy. )

To the person who said you're "wasting away": I'd say, "You can do better than that."

I also work with a lady who is at least 350 pounds. She actually told me I would fail in my WLS. She even said "I know people who have died during and after the surgery!" Now, why would someone say that? Since I've lost 66 pounds, not once has she complimented me. What does that tell you?

Yes. The overweight lady had a rude tone when she said it. And the other lady had a disgusted look on her face like I shouldn't look this way. But I am going to continue to stay on plan and be prepared the next time.

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Also she wants you to fail. That was a very horrible thing to say to you. Sorry you had to go through that.

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Exactly! She has said other mean things to me, regarding other situations. I'm glad we both can see haters for who they are.

@@Hiraeth Thanks for your reply. You are correct, I was insulted. However after reading the post others have made I will make a conscious effort to look at it from a different perspective. There are some people who don't mean any harm. However there are some who express themselves in a rude way which can be taken as malicious. Loosing an average of 3 pounds a week almost consistently can appear dramatic.

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So, their tone or facial expression came off as rude? Now, that can definitely change my perspective. If they spoke to you a certain way, or gave you a negative look, then I'd just pop it right back.

To the overweight lady, I'd probably say, "It's ok to be jealous. I'm well aware of how much weight I need to lose. From the looks of it, you are the last person to be giving me advice." (Ok, maybe that is a bit mean. But I have a coworker who is over 400 pounds, and she makes comments that are obviously motivated by envy. )

To the person who said you're "wasting away": I'd say, "You can do better than that."

I also work with a lady who is at least 350 pounds. She actually told me I would fail in my WLS. She even said "I know people who have died during and after the surgery!" Now, why would someone say that? Since I've lost 66 pounds, not once has she complimented me. What does that tell you?

Yes. The overweight lady had a rude tone when she said it. And the other lady had a disgusted look on her face like I shouldn't look this way. But I am going to continue to stay on plan and be prepared the next time.

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In that case, they have no business giving their advice. Rudeness, without being provoked, is usually out of insecurity and/or envy. That's their problem, and they have no business coming after you because of it.

And yes, stay on your plan! Don't ever let someone discourage you. Keep us updated on future rudeness and your response. I'm looking forward to hearing what you say and what their reaction is.

@@Hiraeth Thanks for your reply. You are correct, I was insulted. However after reading the post others have made I will make a conscious effort to look at it from a different perspective. There are some people who don't mean any harm. However there are some who express themselves in a rude way which can be taken as malicious. Loosing an average of 3 pounds a week almost consistently can appear dramatic.

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So, their tone or facial expression came off as rude? Now, that can definitely change my perspective. If they spoke to you a certain way, or gave you a negative look, then I'd just pop it right back.

To the overweight lady, I'd probably say, "It's ok to be jealous. I'm well aware of how much weight I need to lose. From the looks of it, you are the last person to be giving me advice." (Ok, maybe that is a bit mean. But I have a coworker who is over 400 pounds, and she makes comments that are obviously motivated by envy. )

To the person who said you're "wasting away": I'd say, "You can do better than that."

I also work with a lady who is at least 350 pounds. She actually told me I would fail in my WLS. She even said "I know people who have died during and after the surgery!" Now, why would someone say that? Since I've lost 66 pounds, not once has she complimented me. What does that tell you?

I can see how those type of comments may seem harsh. But, in my opinion, I don't think they meant to be mean. I've had a lot of people say things like this. One lady, who works in another department of the building I work in, said "You better stop or you're going to disappear!" I believe she was just being sarcastic. Some people have a hard time giving straightforward compliments. My guess is, it's because they have a hard time receiving them. So since these people possibly have a hard time receiving compliments, it's probably in their nature to give you a compliment in a sarcastic manner. Also, another thought... Since we are losing so quickly, to them, it probably seems like we are "wasting away". I went from a size XXL to a Large in shirts, in just 4 months. Honestly, that is a huge change.

I'm not saying you shouldn't feel insulted, because you are completely justified in how you feel, since what they said doesn't really sound like a normal compliment.

Congratulations on your weight loss! Proud of you!

I heard of a few people doing the "Pouch Reset". You basically go on the post-op diet that you did right after surgery, but instead of 5 weeks of that diet, it's 5 days. You could probably lose about 3-4 pounds while doing it. (I'm not 100% sure about this, but I've heard some success stories with this plan.)

Day 1: Clear liquids.

Day 2: Full liquids.

Day 3: pureed foods.

Day 4: Soft foods.

Day 5: Regular food (low carb).

Im doing the cabbagge Soup this week one week of clear liquid 5 days lost 3 lbs and will see this friday what i lose

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Good job! I'm going to start this on Monday with a friend. She hasn't had the surgery, but she's very competitive and I think it would be fun, lol. She is thinking about having WLS, and I figured that this liquid diet would jump-start her decision when she loses a few pounds. Keep me updated!

I am 1 week post op today and still on the clear liquid diet. I noticed the last few days when I would eat a sf popsicle that my stomach (or lack there of ) just rumbles and rumbles like crazy... it gets to the point that I don't even want to eat the damn thing anymore. Anyone else have this happen or know why it's happening?

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That happened to me with popsicles and Powerade zero. I'm not sure what was happening, but it went away eventually.

I'm pretty sure this post is directed at me, considering it was posted about 2 hours after I responded to your comment on my post. You came onto my post, basically calling me a liar, and you thought I wouldn't respond in a very deserving manner?

Also, I have posted several helpful and kind comments on this forum, but you're choosing to talk about the one you provoked me on. Then you come here to "secretly" bash me, thinking I wouldn't see it. (But I'm almost certain you were hoping I would.) I don't appreciate it. An adult would have messaged me and discussed this with me. But instead, you chose to act passive-aggressive and childish.

Now, if this isn't directed at me, I apologize. But I'd be very surprised if it wasn't, considering the timing.

2 things:

Animals are provoked. They lack the cognitive faculties to weigh their decisions against the consequences of their actions. People's actions should never be justified by turning the tables around on their "provoker". We ARE all adults, and if someone picks a fight - it's on us to walk away. It's no one else's fault if you got mad and lost control.

Second - It doesn't necessarily follow that the only adult thing to do is to message someone to discuss their grievances. Would I start a thread about it? No. But they're not mutually exclusive options, either.

I'm not interested in having a private conversation with every person with whom I have disagreed with. If someone wants to bring it up on a thread dedicated to me, as long as they aren't name calling and being ridiculous I don't have an issue with it.

Did you read the post I'm talking about? I did not lose control. If someone were to assume someone else is lying, most people would react exactly how I did. It's human nature to react in certain ways. You are entitled to your own opinion, but it is immature to passive-aggressively rant about someone on a thread which was motivated by their own crappy attitude. Why couldn't she just type it to me? Probably because she knows she's wrong, or maybe because she's worried that people will see how she's wrong, and lay it into her. If you go read my post, you'll see that it was her being rude, and I was responding appropriately to her rudeness. I never said the only adult thing to do is to message me about it. Other adult things to do would be to try to see where I'm coming from, ignore me, or respond civilly. But she chose to childishly post about me on her own thread, which she was probably hoping I would see. So, I have every right to defend myself.

There are a few reasons why people feel the need to talk behind others backs. Some people are intimidated and can't express themselves in the moment, so they do it later, to others. (Very likely.) Some are insecure or afraid and feel better about themselves when they put someone else down. (Also very likely.)

As for me, I'm very interested in having a private conversation with people I have a disagreement with, because I don't like holding on to negativity with certain people. However, I have no tolerance for people who act passive-aggressive. I actually do feel bad for her, though, because she's probably just really insecure and unhappy. But again, I have the right to defend myself.

I heard of a few people doing the "Pouch Reset". You basically go on the post-op diet that you did right after surgery, but instead of 5 weeks of that diet, it's 5 days. You could probably lose about 3-4 pounds while doing it. (I'm not 100% sure about this, but I've heard some success stories with this plan.)

Day 1: Clear Liquids.< /p>

Day 2: Full liquids.< /p>

Day 3: pureed foods.

Day 4: Soft foods.

Day 5: Regular food (low carb).

In my opinion, this is a bad idea for someone who has been in maintenance for a while. Liquids won't do anything for you. To carb detox rapidly, I try to eat all Protein . . . specifically all meat or all meat/dairy. After the first few days, the carb cravings are gone and I can reintroduce healthy carbs (veggies, etc.) into my diet.

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Haha! He actually does get that a lot. When I was leaving his office, one of his new patients said something about it. He laughed and said he gets that weekly, lol.

Awww, I'm sorry! Yeah, I remember LSU people being upset about that. >_<

" And the way things are around here, this is as close as I am getting to anything that is described by the term Playmate."

LOL! Does this mean what I think it means?

@Hiraeth OMG - you live in Alabama and your surgeon's name is really Les Miles?? Is that true? Do you get the irony there?

LOL! Yes, I do! When I first heard about him, I was like, "Wait a minute... "

Oh, and Roll Tide!

I heard of a few people doing the "Pouch Reset". You basically go on the post-op diet that you did right after surgery, but instead of 5 weeks of that diet, it's 5 days. You could probably lose about 3-4 pounds while doing it. (I'm not 100% sure about this, but I've heard some success stories with this plan.)

Day 1: Clear Liquids.< br />Day 2: Full liquids.< br />Day 3: pureed foods.
Day 4: Soft foods.
Day 5: Regular food (low carb).

Yeah, because paying $500-$12,000 is "easy". Only drinking liquid for 1-4 weeks is "easy". Having 5-6 holes put into you is "easy". Dealing with CO2 gas pain is "easy". Avoiding eating and drinking at the same time is "easy".

These people frustrate me. I saw something like this a few weeks ago from a news reporter who posted something on FB about a guy who lost a bunch of weight, and that he did it the "right" way. Last time I checked, as long as you're making changes to get healthier, it's considered the "right" way.

I'm not sure what I lost in the first whole month. But I can definitely tell you that I lost 21 pounds in the first 2 weeks. My guess is that most of it was Water, lol.

Thank you all so much for your information calling my surgeon tomorrow I have all the symptoms u described .

Oh my. So sorry you're dealing with all of this. Please keep us updated!

Yes, The gallbladder caused Pancreatitis, Diabetic Ketoacidosis (I wasn't diabetic, my gallbladder failure caused my pancreas to virtually stop) and low functioning kidneys. When they took out my gallbladder the surgeon said it was so scarred that it has adhered itself to the surrounding organs. Ugh.

Wow, glad you're ok now. Did you get pancreatitis?

I noticed something wasn't right with me when my stool turned clay-colored with a slightly yellow tint; and sometimes, even yellowish mucus (TMI). Then, I would feel bloated all the time, especially after eating. Then, I would have indigestion. Eventually, I started having a strong cramping sensation in my sides when I would sit down and bend over to pick something up (kinda like a Charlie horse). By then, I knew I had to get something checked out. So, I scheduled a HIDA scan. When they gave me the cholecystokinin injection, I felt horribly nauseous (which is one of the indicators of a failing gallbladder). It took a while for my gallbladder to empty the injection. My results were that my gallbladder was functioning at only 12% (anything lower than 35% motility is diagnosed as gallbladder dysfunction). I had my gallbladder removed, and the cramping pain and indigestion went away.

Though, now that my gallbladder is gone, it can be difficult to eat fatty foods. You can go from being constipated, to having diarrhea.

I'm 5 months post-op, and I only have a bowel movement 1-2 times each week. It's awful. So now, I try to remind myself to drink Benefiber.

My symptoms were vomiting nightly and daily, discolored stool, mucus in stool and massive leg cramping at night from no potassium or magnesium in my system because of the malabsorption. It took the docs WAY too long to diagnose and thus I suffered for 8 months.

To the OP:

The discolored stool is a big indicator of gallbladder or pancreatic problems. It's due to malabsorption.

Rapid weight loss can cause gallstones and gallbladder attacks so definitely keep an eye on this and let your surgeon know.

Wow, I'm so sorry. That is horrible. Are you ok now?

Gosh, it irks me to know that your doctors took so long to diagnose you, especially when your symptoms are obvious indicators of a possible gallbladder problem. The same thing happened to my mom; she kept having weird bowel movements and back pain, which went misdiagnosed for so many years. Her doctor kept saying it was IBS, but she just wasn't convinced. Several years later, the back pain got much worse. One night, her back started hurting so badly that she was in tears (my mom barely ever cries, so I knew something was really wrong). My sister called 911, and she was rushed to the ER. Sure enough, it was her gallbladder. Her surgeon said that she was one of the most difficult procedures he's ever had; definite top 5 most difficult. He said her gallbladder was completely rotten, and as if it had been rotting for 10-20 years. He said it's a miracle that her pancreas was not affected. After her gallbladder was removed, the back pain went away. For years she dealt with that back pain.

Also, notice the person "liking" my status. I think she's stalking me. How sad. Maybe she dreams about me at night. Sorry that I hurt your ego, dear. <3

I've noticed people tend to do that to be passive-aggressive, and because they have nothing logical to contribute.

Yeah, if you have your gall bladder please inform your surgeon's office. My gallbladder almost killed me. I was in ICU for 4 days in February - Pre-surgery.

Wow, glad you're ok now. Did you get pancreatitis?

I noticed something wasn't right with me when my stool turned clay-colored with a slightly yellow tint; and sometimes, even yellowish mucus (TMI). Then, I would feel bloated all the time, especially after eating. Then, I would have indigestion. Eventually, I started having a strong cramping sensation in my sides when I would sit down and bend over to pick something up (kinda like a Charlie horse). By then, I knew I had to get something checked out. So, I scheduled a HIDA scan. When they gave me the cholecystokinin injection, I felt horribly nauseous (which is one of the indicators of a failing gallbladder). It took a while for my gallbladder to empty the injection. My results were that my gallbladder was functioning at only 12% (anything lower than 35% motility is diagnosed as gallbladder dysfunction). I had my gallbladder removed, and the cramping pain and indigestion went away.

Though, now that my gallbladder is gone, it can be difficult to eat fatty foods. You can go from being constipated, to having diarrhea.

I'm 5 months post-op, and I only have a bowel movement 1-2 times each week. It's awful. So now, I try to remind myself to drink Benefiber.

I completely agree. I also think I know the three people you're talking about. If I'm right, two of my friends have already mentioned them, as well. So, you're not the only one who notices them. They have made their reputation. My guess is, they have some major insecurity issues.

EDIT: Ok so, I just read all the replies and I now realize this thread was motivated by my thread, LOL! I'm glad some people actually see that I was getting responses that were uncalled for. It's funny, because one person who got on there and called me a liar, actually made a rant thread about me being mean. Lol, really? You come to my thread and provoke me, and you expect me not to reply in the manner you deserve?

Also, to the people mentioning tacos... My coworker is making something that smells like Mexican food, and I am now craving it. >_<;

My mom is dead set on trying to keep me from having this surgery and I am dead set on doing it. She knows a woman at her work who knows someone that died from the surgery. I suspect she is asking the same person everyday at her work and just keeps telling me the same story everytime. I'm going to my one support group requirement tonight and after that I have a nutrition class on the 20th of Jan and only two classes left after January. All nay sayers aside, I can't wait. I have noticed that since I started eating more Protein anything sweet I eat makes me nauseous.

Honestly, you have a greater chance of dying when you get behind the wheel of a car. Do not let your mom bring you down. I know she's worried, but this surgery will increase the quality of your health. I'm glad you're excited, because you should be!

It may be a good idea to tell her that you no longer wish to discuss the surgery with her. If she refuses to let it go, you may want to put a hold on communicating with her. I hate to say that, because she is your mother. But it can be so draining to have someone so influential in your life to be that negative.

Hello, and welcome!

Go to your profile, and toward the right side of the page, you will see a rectangle that says, EDIT MY PROFILE. Click that, and look at the tabs under My Settings. You will see Gallery; click that and you should be able to upload pictures.

Oh my word... I'm so sorry to hear this. Hang in there, girl! I hope this all goes away soon.

Is it kinda clay-colored? Does it have a yellow tint to it? If so, this could be a sign of a gallbladder problem. When the diet changes drastically, it can make the gallbladder fail. Are you having any cramping in your stomach, sides, or upper back?

This could also just be from eating a low carb diet.