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My plan discourages shakes after week three as well... While it might make it harder, I think it forces you to interact with food again and train yourself how to eat... "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

@finding_onederland... I'm getting closer, the doctors other than the surgeon are filling their paperwork out and getting ready to submit... The insurance coordinator said maybe July 18th... Once I am official approved it will all become more real. I was fortunate that the surgeon has very on the ball office staff, when I called to make the appointment to see him I said I'm taking the day off, the person on the phone said lets make the most of it... I saw the nut, psych, surgeon, insurance coordinator and got lab work done all in the same day. When are you expecting to have surgery? "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

Your insurance may mention something about a multidisciplinary approach through a bariatric program for weight loss, in that case mine said it only had to be three months... "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

I went to 2 surgeon but I decided to have my surgery with the third... Why? I had 10 months of supervised weight management with an endocrinologist, neither of the first two wanted to hear anything about that. The third surgeon was like if you have the weight management done, we'll fax over the paper to the doc and we can submit for approval.. I was like thank you, your the first doctor listening to me... In so many words he said the other two were just being greedy milking the insurance for office visits because they can... At that moment I knew why I loved this surgeon... He said lets get the paperwork rolling so you can get approved and get sleeved.. All this insurance nonsense is opening the door for greedy people to make extra money.. Some may say it's not all that much extra on one patient but if you think of all the patients they have it adds up... Really their not giving any medical care during the 6 month supervised diet, you don't need to be an MD to weight someone... The place I'm using is a center of excellence and it shows every step of the way... Good luck to you! "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

3 months equals 12 weeks... 50 pounds in 3 months averages about 4lbs a month... Think I got my math right? Most healthy weight loss plans suggest between 1-2 lbs a week. If your starting weight was lower you maybe be loosing slower. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

My surgeon, primary care doctor and anything else I have seen says toning up will lessen loose skin... A weight training program builds muscle... Might still have loose skin but you will look more toned. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

My psych was part of the program, I felt it was just a conversation about the surgery and the expectations afterwards. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

I agree that seems on the low side, as I see from being on the forum there is lot of variety of post op eating directions. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

Maybe one day she will but right now she is living under the delusion that she present obese people in a positive way... "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

That would be too funny, reality show cross over... "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

Part of her weight is due to PCOS... I would think she would Celebrate larger size people if she had an actually full time job and some direction in life... Instead I think she just reinforces negative stereotypes about obese people...She's been enabled by the parents... It's easy whine about being obese harder to choose to do something about it "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

Maybe she meant 30grams in one meal? I've seen post on here that say the body can only absorbs 30 grams of Protein at a time...I guess being a teacher I'm more conscious of communication, when people are giving direction they should be crystal clear... "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

I went to the Vitamin shoppe and they had single Protein powders for a reasonable price. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

I'm pre-op, I have met with the nutritionist to discuss post op eating... I'm required to have between 60-80 grams Protein and a 1day liquid diet.. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

I think you should have confidence in the fact the surgeon would not take you on as a patient if she/he thinks you will be denied, lots of time and resources would be wasted on his end... Stay confident, life has a funny was of making things work out. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

@@Aussiegirl 81... You are correct about fruits... Fruit on the low glycemic index such as apples and blueberries are fine... A balanced eating plan is the goal. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

@kindafamiliar... So happy to hear you find my quote somewhat distressing, a clear sign you have a stress free life otherwise. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

Looking forward to your progress "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

This is just an observation, it seems some threads turn into tension based on which posters are involved... Does anyone else notice a pattern? "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

I think some bias we would be aware as the doctor does nothing to hide it... Other times the doctor maybe thinking it but not state it explicitly.. Several years back I was diagnosed with kidney stones that were not causing symptoms they were an incidental finding... Upon informing me of this my pcp gave my a lecture about how the stones were caused by my poor eating habits... Wasn't she surprised when the 24 hours urine test showed I had hypercalcemia of the kidney, nothing to do with eating habits... I went to see an allergist after having am allergy attack and all he could do was discuss my being obesity.. No doubt about it if your obese your getting bias treatment. "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

Girl you look fabulous, haters going to hate! "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

I see your in NY, may I ask where you got sleeved? "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

My nut papers says good fats, don't recall there being a specific amount "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

@@Jenjen2016 if your insurance requires it you will have to complete those prior to having your paperwork submitted "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein

Diet pills, just mess up your quality of life... Have you consider herbs or chromium picolinate? "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them" Einstein