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I was a 40 DDD and now I am a 36D at goal and a normal BMI. I look great in clothes not so much naked. Back feels so much better and overall I look better. DDD at 5' 1" was not a sexy look.

I was a 40 DDD and now I am a 36D at goal and a normal BMI. I look great in clothes not so much naked. Back feels so much better and overall I look better. DDD at 5' 1" was not a sexy look.

I was diagnosed before WLS. I am now at goal the fibro is mostly gone after WLS surgery. Also off cymbalta that I was taking for it. Never take anything stronger than Tylenol now. Sure I get achy on occasion but is infrequent and mild compared to before. The fibromyalgia actually diminished before a lost a ton of weight. I think my old diet was the cause. New eating habits.... New pain free woman.

Very cool. Gives hope to newbies when we hear the sleeve is still viable 5 years out. You still have the restriction and just needed to make the choice to follow the program. Everyone says this is a tool and we need to address mental reason for overeating and making bad food choices. You are the living proof positive!

I ran into my surgeon at a social event last night and he remarked that I wasn't eating off plan even at a cocktail event, which led the discussion to this very topic. He told me that he turns away probably 30% of the people who enter our bariatric pathway, one reason being that they never seem to grasp the severity of the surgery and he literally doesn't trust that they'll not injure themselves post-op. I was flabbergasted, then I thought of this board and the large percentage of people who've either eaten fried chicken at one week or who are in the 'oh, everyone cheats' group coddling the fried chicken eaters.

@@ShelterDog64 I am glad you raved and ranted because I have been feeling the same. This thread and postings have not been a waste of my time to read this morning!
I'll just add that in addition to the folks that don't want to own their choices and / or make poor ones, these folks don't even consider the great risks they put themselves in. Why in the world someone would take a chance of ending up in the hospital, having another surgery, or maybe dying for chicken, beer, etc is beyond my imagination.

@@Hammer_Down
We don't need people like you on these forums. Now take your no nonsense, common sense, perfectly sane posts and be gone! You're stinking up the joint!

Thank you, likeminded people!
I'm still pre-op for about 17 days. I have been staying off this site and chosen the posts I read carefully. I have made a plan for my wls journey and I don't want to stray from it because someone else makes self destructive choices. I got worried that the bad attitudes would catch me like a cold.
When I first joined, I found it amusing to read about the tacos, t-bone steaks by mistake and swedish fish beeing soft food. All the things you should know not to do if you did your research, even skimming through the basics.
Lately I have been talking to people who have just had their surgeries, read up on complications and really thought about my choice. I find that more valuable than trying to talk to the people who made their bad choices already and end their posts with "no negative comments allowed".
But then again, I need the people that make the mistakes, so my odds of reaching a healthy weight increases...
Thanks for being here and please hold me accountable if I stray off my intendend plan! No fuzzy feelings or pretty packages required, I need to make the most of it!
Nilla

Just so we're clear, the word "judgemental" gets thrown around a lot on this forum. You can feel judged by someone, even if they weren't being judgemental and that is your own issue. Not being able to accept the truth.
Judgmental: "I'm a much better person than you, and always will be because I didn't cheat on my pre-op diet. Failures like you don't deserve this wonderful opportunity to change their lives for the better because you're just going to waste it anyway."
Enabling: "I know, I cheated on my pre-op diet too and I was fine so I wouldn't worry about it! It's just a suggested diet anyway and you know what your body needs more than some doctor! You got this girl!"
Bullying: "Why are you so stupid? Morons like you should be taken out of the gene pool, since you obviously took a shallow dive to begin with. If I was there right now I'd seriously whoop you because I can't stand people who come around here looking for sympathy because they are screw ups."
Supportive: "I can appreciate that this is really hard, because I went through it myself 2 years ago. The temptations don't go away, you will probably always struggle some. But it gets easier the longer you make the right choices. I think you really need to consider why you had this surgery if you aren't making 100% efforts to follow your doctor's guidelines."

A true "safe space" is one where people tell you what you NEED to hear, not what you WANT to hear. That's the diff. IN MY OPINION.

Amazing post. And so true.
As someone who has been involved with 12 Step programs like AA most of my life, believe you me, there is none of that nonsense going on when someone in a meeting admits they 'slipped'. There's no coddling, head patting or excusing the behavior. There's just "Get your sh*t together, man, or you're going to DIE".

Exactly...the liver transplant patient that just wants one drink. "Sure, i understand because i love beer too!"

Funny because I just had this very conversation with my surgeon this week. He has seen people gain in the first 6 weeks after surgery and then ask him "why isnt this working for me". People are like this in all aspects of humanity, not just WLS. I have patients that I counsel about smoking because they have COPD. They tell me "i cant breath" "i cant afford my meds" but spend 50$ a week on cigarettes. They expect me to fix their problem while taking no responsibility for their actions.
We have a choice...it may not be an easy choice but its still a choice. We have an opportunity to change after WLS and we should seize it to make better choices. Not ruin it by continuing with the same bad behavior.

I think there is a difference between being judgmental and being real. I also think there is a difference between being supportive and becoming an enabler.

I don't care about the flak...I'm fed up. And I'm ranting about it. I see these people here, in my support group, in the waiting room at my doctor's office...they're everywhere. Complaining, whining, justifying their own crappy choices by asking others to validate them. I'm raising two sons to NOT be backseat drivers to their choices, to not blame their self-created misfortune on others...it's a personal peeve of mine. YMMV, of course.

I think accountability is key to not only weight loss success but all addictions. As they say, You can make excuses or you can make progress, your choice.
Two weeks after surgery I wrote myself a letter admitting my terrible relationship with food. If you don't admit what gets you into bad situations, you are bound to repeat. I think the only way to get rid of demons is to admit they are there, and confront them.
When I read here about people who just ate candy or fried food, etc, I think that they have not yet faced the hardest part of this journey.. mental changes. Like Blizair said "Bless their Hearts".

You are spot on. It really is a very sad situation when people are given this amazing opportunity and they can't rise above food to take full advantage of it. It really is a mental game from the very beginning, and I don't think many people who post on here get that. They look at the insurance requirements (if they are using insurance) as "hoops" to jump through instead of thinking about why the requirements are there and how they can actually be beneficial to help them mentally prepare for surgery and their post-op life.
I try to remember that this is a public forum, so there will be a wide variety of opinions from people with very different types of lives, but after being on here for a few months, I am more convinced than ever that LOTS of people get this surgery for the wrong reasons, see it as some kind of magic wand that it isn't, and ultimately are not going to be successful long-term because they refuse to change their relationship with food.< /p>
I just think "bless your heart" and move on. People are going to do what they are going to do...

Just spent an hour of my life I'll never get back reading in the Pre-/Post-Op Sleeve forums and I'm amazed by what people will still, even as they're undertaking MAJOR SURGERY, say to justify their behavior.

There are people about to have most of their stomach removed who say "I don't have a problem with food". Say what?? I'm pretty sure the Fat Fairy didn't put all this weight on any of us, right? "I couldn't stop myself". Yes, you could have...you DIDN'T. "Everyone does it". No, they don't. YOU did.
As I'm typing this out, it's clear that I'm fed up with the lack of ownership of behavior. It's odd to watch fat people trying to float the same justifications here that they've used for years with other people. Walking into a group of fat people and saying "I don't have a problem with food" is pretty ridiculous...that dog just won't hunt here. If you can't be honest with yourself and a group of people much like yourself, how can you succeed with WLS? The non-ownership of our own actions and capabilities is what got many (most?) of us to where we are and it kills me that there are people STILL wallowing in the 'I don't control myself' pool who are getting WLS. What a waste.

At 10 months post op I eat what my family does but I skip the carb (bread, Pasta, rice are not on the menu). For example if is spaghetti night I put the meat sauce on my veggie. I Even eat the toppings from pizza... I no longer dread pizza night!!!! Obviously you can't do that yet. But you can soon!!! The further out you get the easier it gets! I promise. Don't beat yourself up either... The phase your in is hard.

Maybe pop some Xanax and just skip it.... Just kidding.... I am going to avoid and emotional and stress eating!!!!

Oh my where do I start... Well it was Halloween and now I have post Halloween blues! The parties, the decorations and choosing costumes, trick or treating has dominated my last 6 weeks. Now it is over and I am stuck in the house with my kids candy! On to Christmas! I am also into the walking dead, Star Wars (obsessed with Rouge 1), shopping for cute cloths and anti wrinkle products (prob need to start a post on that) and sadly this election. I think it is seriously causing me anxiety! Can't wait until it is over.

Oh my where do I start... Well it was Halloween and now I have post Halloween blues! The parties, the decorations and choosing costumes, trick or treating has dominated my last 6 weeks. Now it is over and I am stuck in the house with my kids candy! On to Christmas! I am also into the walking dead, Star Wars (obsessed with Rouge 1), shopping for cute cloths and anti wrinkle products (prob need to start a post on that) and sadly this election. I think it is seriously causing me anxiety! Can't wait until it is over.

Oh my where do I start... Well it was Halloween and now I have post Halloween blues! The parties, the decorations and choosing costumes, trick or treating has dominated my last 6 weeks. Now it is over and I am stuck in the house with my kids candy! On to Christmas! I am also into the walking dead, Star Wars (obsessed with Rouge 1), shopping for cute cloths and anti wrinkle products (prob need to start a post on that) and sadly this election. I think it is seriously causing me anxiety! Can't wait until it is over.

Very cool. Gives hope to newbies when we hear the sleeve is still viable 5 years out. You still have the restriction and just needed to make the choice to follow the program. Everyone says this is a tool and we need to address mental reason for overeating and making bad food choices. You are the living proof positive!

Now people. I want to just put a warning here. Try to contain yourself when you see THIS sexy fairy: http://imgur.com/a/WG5T6