Chubtastic

Are you talking about cream of mushroom /chicken Soups when you say cream soups?

North Texas

I appreciate your honesty I like being prepared

My date is oct 18th! Holy balls batman I'm scared! Lol

Is there a fb group for October ppl?

Lol that's ok I might end up pushing my surgery date back depending haven't decided yet.

Anyone else having wls in October?

Hello looking to join some Mexico WLS FB groups Im grateful for any recommendations!

Chubtastic, I am going to Mexico as well. I'm using Dr. Ortiz at the Obesity Control Center. Who are you using?

Awesome! Dr.Illan

Did you ever find doctor ILLANs video?

Getting sleeved on October 9th in Mexico 2mons 1wk and 2days away!

Don't they like charge 16% or something whenu pay with your card in Mexico?

Phew glad illan is only a 7days I can do that I've done it before! So excited! Hopefully getting sleeved In October!

Would you pay with check from your hsa?

We should not link ppls FB this is all he said she said. And one of the girls accusing seems VERY Off it from what I've seen/read very fatal attraction-ish

So yes it's all true, the stories are real and females got hurt. Don't be so quick to judge if you don't know the full story.

Wish someone would tell us the full story we are only getting bits and pieces.

wow. this is crazy on so many levels.

i just come here to learn about who has the lowest infection rate, and best surgical technique.

Have you found that info?

I wanna know the whole story..

I have just been contacted by yet another victim. Clearly, this man is taking advantage of his position. He is so unprofessional and of low moral character and no ethics. I am just speechless.

I think this has gotten out of hand.....

...um O_o maybe its time to lock the thread? But I would like to hear from the other girl who is about to post her story hopefully she give some clarity.

I just read this entire thread, and I think my head may explode.

I don't know Omar, Susan, Dr. Illan, or anyone else here. But what I do know is that from what I can tell, Omar's behavior was EXTREMELY unprofessional, and I would have expected to see each and every woman and decent man in here saying something along the lines of "if that happened, it is horrible, and it needs to be addressed". I didn't expect blind acceptance, but a measure of "hey if this happened that sucks" would have been ok.

The lack of compassion for others that is displayed here is appalling. Omar is an a-hole if he did these things, and although a-hole does not equal rapist, it certainly does, in this situation, equal someone who ought to be prevented from working with female patients in this capacity.

By the way, I have seen right here in this thread so many misconceptions about rape, assault, and unethical behavior that it makes my head spin. I am so very sad about it.

Now, my personal opinions:

@@*susan* I can understand why you wanted to speak out on behalf of these women, and I get it. BUT I do think, personally, that it would have been easier to process, more effective to serve your purpose, and better received, if you had been able to convince the women to post their stories in the beginning rather than you making the post. I know you were doing what you felt was right. I dig it. But the purpose was to warn women about a predatory man, and I just think that message was lost because you were the message bearer. In the case that they did not want to post themselves, and I can understand why they wouldn't want to, then it may have been better to make the post more general. Just my opinion. Either way I respect your intentions.

Also, to @Chubtastic: Ma'am. Call me a feminist, and maybe I am, but even if this situation was COMPLETELY above board (which it is not BY FAR), I am amazed at your almost instinctual defending of the male person (the accused) in this scenario. Males are not automatically guilty, but I must say that you excuse Omar's behavior multiple times while condemning this woman because she was married. Who hurt you? He doesn't have a life outside of work? Really??? So, if a professional is busy, it's perfectly fine for him to make sexual advances toward his clients? That is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. Holy cow, baby, come on back to earth. There's room for you here, I promise...

...not that I'm sure I want to be on earth anymore.

I hope that Dr. Illan is able to take out the trash and restore some order to his coordinating team. Until now, I've only ever heard good things about him, and I hope he would not knowingly allow this sort of behavior to continue.

I have daddy issues

I was more or less playing devil's advocate not excusing his behavior.l was just trying to see it from another side. i've heard he's a busy guy (i don't agree) but could see how he would date these women he meets thur work. I dont know if hes some kind of predator who gets off on playing games and abusing his power or if hes a just an A hole jerk who wants to live the single life and be a player and all these women are being vindictive hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I think everyone in this situation is to blame I don't excuse either ones behavior also I wasn't condemning her but she made vows to someone and she broke them bc(assumingly) some smooth talker told her she was pretty. Marriage isnt to be taken lightly and if this situation was reversed and she was a man I would have said the exact same thing gender makes no difference.

No I would rather not elaborate on mine or anyone else's religious beliefs. I just hope and pray that this post has given enough warning out there to the future patients of this doctor. Even though the doctor is great, you need to be warned about his seducing coordinator and all the other hoopla that will happen if you fall for his tactics.

Fair enough. Consider me warned but I think I'll still go with dr.ILLAN and Omar will just have to resist my feminine wiles! But in all seriousness my husband will accompany to make sure there is no funny business and everyone should take this a lesson to be careful who date/hookup/fall for you girls are worth more than a booty call!

 

so you are a follower of Christ?

 

Then you know we ARE called to judge. "Jesus stated, “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment” (John 7:24). Notice the Lord’s command to judge. But before we make that judgment, we must make sure we are judging righteously from God’s Word and not relying on our own opinion." Last I checked God said do not commit adultery, actually he made it a commandment. N'uff said.

So you are saying you have the God given right to condemn people! So tell me how does it feel when people judge you? Adultery is not the reason this post was started. If you go back to the begining it is about a man who has been seducing women and warning other women not to fall for his tactics and lies.

Discerning not condeming i have no power to condem anyone. Your judging me now everyone judges everyone everyday even if they don't realize it. And I just stated that her credibility was in question here. And then posted that scripture out of context that's how we ended up here. We can continue this in pm if you want but I've been told not to get off topic here gotta respect the rules

Y'all miss interrupt that scripture constantly. please stop using it like you know what it means or even like you know what chapter its in.

Excuse me! Seriously who are you that you know anything about me? I am the only person on here so far that has used that scripture. I know exactly what it means do you? Probably not since you are here judging people. If you are a God fearing person you should know it's not your or anyone else's place to judge people. He will judge when its time.

Then you know we ARE called to judge. "Jesus stated, “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment” (John 7:24). Notice the Lord’s command to judge. But before we make that judgment, we must make sure we are judging righteously from God’s Word and not relying on our own opinion." Last I checked God said do not commit adultery, actually he made it a commandment. N'uff said.

Babygirl 1987, since you are so obsessed withe her marriage vows and Christ why are you judging her? You who are without sin shall cast the first stone!

Y'all miss interrupt that scripture constantly. please stop using it like you know what it means or even like you know what chapter its in.