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Exactly my point. That seems pretty low to me! Certainly not high enough to suggest the procedure might be self sabotage/not choosing the best procedure.

Have you seen how one is performed? This isn’t possible.

Who do you hear that from? Medical studies show the gherlin reduction is real and the restriction is permanent. That said, there are people whose appetite is not controlled by the reduction in gherlin. Responses to the surgery varies and sadly we can’t tell who will respond which way. Hopefully one day Science will advance to the point where we can better tailor surgery choice to the individual. And I will say, I am very careful with my carbs. Carbs can trigger appetite and binge-y feelings for me and a lot of carbs upset my stomach—I can’t eat bread or rice especially—and sugar makes me feel ill (not full on dumping but icky).

Do you really think people have VSG so that they won’t dump so that they can cheat? Why would they even have WLS. I honestly don’t think that is anyone’s motivation. What revision statistics are you looking at? I hope you’re not basing it on board postings because that is self selection and not population based. And I say again, we can’t predict yet for whom which surgery will work. For many the sleeve creates a new set point and the reduction in grehlin eliminates the desire to binge—long term. I don’t understand the people on this thread who say the sleeve is temporary or short term.

Honestly I don’t know because I’m not there. I don’t think anyone can predict accurately what choices they would make in circumstances they aren’t in. But based on my avoidance of other forms of surgery for decades when I was obese, probably not. But maybe now that I know what it’s like to live life at a normal weight that would motivate me. But I think there are far more people who don’t regain large amounts of weight with the sleeve than there are those who do. These boards see more of those who regain for obvious reasons. I also have developed new ideas since my weight loss. Most of us had surgery for our health. The first pounds we lost were Health pounds. Then many of us go on to lose more weight and that I call vanity pounds. Usually the regain is of those vanity pounds and we tend to forget how many of the health pounds are still gone and beat ourselves up over the vanity pounds. I honestly don’t think people should fret too much about the regain of vanity pounds. That’s pretty much... normal. All people do it as they age, whether they have a history of obesity or not. So I believe I would consider that normal and work to lose it as any normal person does.

I do not feel like I struggle.

Exactly this. We can’t tell ahead of time what surgery will work for whom. Hopefully one day science will advance enough that we will have better predictors. I chose the sleeve because I didn’t want the possible nutritional deficiencies that a bypass is more likely than a sleeve to leave you with. I also wasn’t comfortable with the increased risk of other side effects that both DS and RNY have over the sleeve. I had considered RNY for almost a decade and had never been convinced because of the risks and side effects. As soon as a learned about the sleeve I knew that was something I could get behind. I was a binge eater. Obese from early on. Snacky slider foods were my jam. As I’ve said I still can’t let Cheez its in my house. The sleeve has worked wonderfully for me for five years.

I’m five years out and still can’t eat two eggs. Pretty sure I will never be able to. I couldn’t eat eggs at all without pain for about six months.

Semantic shorthand. Brevity. Simplicity. Tradition. Lots of reasons to use that language, not always reflecting anything significant.

My semantics was in regards to my own post. I don’t know the actual words she used, so my words may not encompass her precisely. That’s what I meant. I don’t think anyone should judge until they’ve been there, which is precisely what she did. Before she even got to goal, laid out a judgement on vets on the board.

I'm still kinda torn myself if I will continue to consider myself a patient after a certain amount of time vs a person who had surgery Semantics.

I don’t disagree that what they did was rude, catty and whatever else has been said. I was just talking about the HIPPA issue. I misunderstood the situation—seemed to me like the break room shampoo bottle situation you describe. A locked office after hours. My mistake.

My misunderstanding. I thought they were in the office and both involved in the care. I stand corrected. Yes. I do.

She contends that anyone who stays “too long” has no life and should move on and stop considering themselves a Bariatric patient 🤷🏼‍♀️

I’m gonna be the odd duck here; but while I am truly sorry you had to hear what they were saying.... what is the HIPPA violation here? They were in a closed office with the door locked, taking amongst themselves. It was not meant for anyone else to hear, they believed they were in a private, secure, locked, closed office. They did not mention a name or any confidential medical information. They were letting off steam and venting in the black humor those who deal with life or death medical and mental health scenarios do. I may get stoned for this, but what did they violate?

Yes!!! I love leftovers!!

Yup. I’m five years out and still noisy as heck.

Similar to the gallbladder. Haven’t had the hysterectomy. Way better than a c section

I add dressing mixes into Greek yogurt (fage 0%). Hidden valley ranch powder... or you could add in mustard and Splenda.

Exactly and NO they do not.

No you were saying that the money was coming from the sweeteners. It’s not. They do not have any vested interest in these results and the actual disclosures on the article show that. This is real science in a peer reviewed journal with no money trail to follow.

Tons of people love premiere protein, I can’t stand it. If you find you can’t either, my favorites are Quest (esp cinnamon crunch and the new coffee) and Syntrax Matrix (esp peanut butter cookie)

Sadly she reached goal and left with an announcement that basically said those of us who were at goal and didn’t leave have no life. Ah well!

Thanks for finding and posting that. If anything these researchers receive funding from pharmaceutical companies so it would be AGAINST their interests to find benefit from artificial sweeteners. This is why the have to disclose funding sources and interests in scholarly articles, so these results are really interning!.

The three week stall is sorta infamous seems like that’s where you are.