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Well, If you track everything you eat and what you ate fit within your guidelines and your guidelines are resulting in losing weight and you are ultimately able to maintain that loss with your subsequent eating patterns years down the line then the answers to your questions are "no" and "no".
Sounds like you and your doctor have a great plan laid out, so it doesn't appear you need anyone's advice. Especially if it's not the advice you were looking for.

Well, first of all you ate bread. One of the #1 postop rules is no bread, Pasta, rice, or simple carbs during the losing phase. And secondly, yes, that's a boatload of food. I'm 2 1/2 years out and can't eat that much (and I STILL wouldn't eat that much bread even if I could). Weren't you given a diet plan with portion guidelines? Told about grazing? Your sleeve can only do so much. What and how frequently you eat are still your responsibility.
Don't mean to preach, but if you want the simple answers to your questions, they are "yes" and "yes".

What Babbs said...your doc is a moron. Have the surgery, lose the weight, keep it off and go back to him in five years just to rub it in his face.
I didn't tell my PCP I was having surgery. I just did it. I am actually good friends with him and his wife and have spent holidays and vacation together. He wouldnt have necessarily discouraged me, it's just that I was self pay and didn't need him at that point in the process. Never even dawned on me to mention it.
I came back from Mexico with a postop bloodwork schedule and gave it to him. He's been there for me ever since. 2 years later he and my OB/Gyn are recommending my surgeon to their patients who don't have insurance that covers WLS. Seeing is believing.

So it's very obvious the new newbies want nothing to do with hearing what successful WLS patients have to say. The recent debate over the the eating bacon 1 week postop makes it perfectly clear that what they want is for someone to tell them it's OK to be stupid. They are not interested in listening to their surgeons or nuts or veterans. Self sabotage is the new fad and compliance is apparently out of style. I made the mistake of responding to the post when, as a veteran, I should have known better. Turns out I'm just a big meanie (no surprise there!) At this point it's 95% newbies posting on that thread who don't have a clue what the long term repercussions of eating off plan so soon will lead to. The blind leading the blind.
Oh well. It will be interesting to see the stats of successful EWL go down over the next few years as more and more unprepared, uncommitted people continue to have WLS. In the meantime, I'm outa here. The newbies won. As hard as it is to tear my eyes away from the car wreck, I just can't take anymore people that do stupid shit and then whine about getting their feelings hurt. Someone PM me when the grown ups start joining again.

December 2013 (day I started preop diet) vs December 2014. I'm 19 months out now but look the same as 12 months post (with the addition of a new tattoo)

September 2013 ( 3 months before surgery) vs September 2014 (9 months postop and 10 pounds below goal

When was the last time you gained 8 pounds in a week? Why would you expect to lose it faster than that? You are setting your expectations at the highest, most unattainable levels and will be disappointed. Put your scale away, focus on healing and set yourself up for success by following your plan. The rate at which you lose has absolutely nothing to do with your long term outcome.

Yes, you will be able to eat a more at 1 year postop than you could at 1 month or 3 months. But your stomach can NEVER EVER stretch to the 8-10 cup size it was before surgery. It is impossible....unless your surgeon is incompetent and didn't remove all of the fundus. If you are regaining it is because of the food and beverage choices you are making. I could eat a whole bag of chips and a pint of ice cream and a whole pizza if I had all day to do it. That doesn't mean my sleeve stretched, it just means I'm making really crappy decisions.
WLS is a gift and a chance for a "do over". It's a shame if you squander it on poor choices and try to blame your sleeve. If you don't change the behaviors that made you fat in the first place, you will end up fat again.

I've been in maintenance for almost 1 1/2 years. If I pop over my bounce range I go back to strict Protein and veggies until I'm at the bottom of my range. When I wanted to drop 5 pounds before I went on vacation, I did a week of the liquid preop diet....3 shakes/day plus leafy greens. Not only did I lose the weight, it helped restore some restriction and definitely restored my willpower.
You may try something like this if you have been straying away from basics. And then try eating different things than you have in the past. Different Proteins, different veggies. Eat at different times, drink more Water. Change your excercise routine. Since you aren't seeing results doing what you're doing, do something different. And make sure you are still taking your supplements.

I think that's pretty normal. I only ever added 1 new thing a day or even every other day. I just drank my shakes and broths and Soups as staples plus one new food item. That way I wasn't throwing a whole bunch of stuff at my new tummy to deal with. And if there was a day that didn't go well, I knew exactly what the culprit was. Took me longer to progress through the stages, but I had minimal discomfort and never got sick. You are still healing, and just like this isn't a race to lose weight, it's not a race to see what food you can eat. Take it as slow as you need to.

Plain Greek yogurt flavored with Protein powder, blended split pea Soup, blended bean soup, sweet potatoes or mashed potatoes with unflavored Protein Powder, egg salad, pureed cauliflower, soft cheeses, guacamole, hummus, cream of wheat with vanilla or chocolate Protein Powder, pureed tuna salad, refried Beans, scrambled eggs, cottage cheese, (these last 3 along with green chili sauce makes a great huevos rancheros!). And cottage cheese with Muscle Milk cake batter Protein powder makes a tasty cheesecake.
Honestly, this was my favorite food stage because everything tasted SO GOOD after a month of liquids!

I think that's pretty normal. I only ever added 1 new thing a day or even every other day. I just drank my shakes and broths and Soups as staples plus one new food item. That way I wasn't throwing a whole bunch of stuff at my new tummy to deal with. And if there was a day that didn't go well, I knew exactly what the culprit was. Took me longer to progress through the stages, but I had minimal discomfort and never got sick. You are still healing, and just like this isn't a race to lose weight, it's not a race to see what food you can eat. Take it as slow as you need to.

Plain Greek yogurt flavored with Protein powder, blended split pea Soup, blended bean soup, sweet potatoes or mashed potatoes with unflavored Protein Powder, egg salad, pureed cauliflower, soft cheeses, guacamole, hummus, cream of wheat with vanilla or chocolate Protein Powder, pureed tuna salad, refried Beans, scrambled eggs, cottage cheese, (these last 3 along with green chili sauce makes a great huevos rancheros!). And cottage cheese with Muscle Milk cake batter Protein powder makes a tasty cheesecake.
Honestly, this was my favorite food stage because everything tasted SO GOOD after a month of liquids!

Plain Greek yogurt flavored with Protein powder, blended split pea Soup, blended bean soup, sweet potatoes or mashed potatoes with unflavored Protein Powder, egg salad, pureed cauliflower, soft cheeses, guacamole, hummus, cream of wheat with vanilla or chocolate Protein Powder, pureed tuna salad, refried Beans, scrambled eggs, cottage cheese, (these last 3 along with green chili sauce makes a great huevos rancheros!). And cottage cheese with Muscle Milk cake batter Protein powder makes a tasty cheesecake.
Honestly, this was my favorite food stage because everything tasted SO GOOD after a month of liquids!

So it's very obvious the new newbies want nothing to do with hearing what successful WLS patients have to say. The recent debate over the the eating bacon 1 week postop makes it perfectly clear that what they want is for someone to tell them it's OK to be stupid. They are not interested in listening to their surgeons or nuts or veterans. Self sabotage is the new fad and compliance is apparently out of style. I made the mistake of responding to the post when, as a veteran, I should have known better. Turns out I'm just a big meanie (no surprise there!) At this point it's 95% newbies posting on that thread who don't have a clue what the long term repercussions of eating off plan so soon will lead to. The blind leading the blind.
Oh well. It will be interesting to see the stats of successful EWL go down over the next few years as more and more unprepared, uncommitted people continue to have WLS. In the meantime, I'm outa here. The newbies won. As hard as it is to tear my eyes away from the car wreck, I just can't take anymore people that do stupid shit and then whine about getting their feelings hurt. Someone PM me when the grown ups start joining again.

I would have had no problems going home 6 hours postop, but I think I am the exception to the rule. I read so many other posts from people who can't stop vomitting, are in extreme pain, can't swallow, can't hold down liquids, etc. They stay in the hospital 2, sometimes 3 nights.
What is Dr. Kim's contingiency plan if you are one of these patients? What is his pain management protocol? How does he ensure you won't have a unexpected bleed when you get home? What if you can't hold down liquids...will he readmit you for IV fluids or are you left to fend for yourself at the ER? If it's not a real hospital with an ICU, what kind of staff/equipment does he have in case of an anesthetic emergency or if you need a blood transfusion? I had my surgery at a Center of Excellence bariatric surgical center and I did spend one night, but these are the types of questions (and about 50 others) I asked since it wasn't a hospital.

That is an impossible claim. Anything has the possibility of leaking. It may reduce the chances but nothing can be guaranteed 100%.

There are also those that lost all their weight, kept it off and have no reason to check back in with their surgeons. I am one of those. Not to mention I had surgery in Mexico, so my 100% + weight loss will likely never get recorded. And yes, I will still be at this weight in another 4 years
You alone would limit your loss to 70%, not any research study.

The only thing that limits you to only losing 60% of your excess weight is you. I've lost over 100% and am maintaining easily. I eat whatever I want whenever I'm hungry....protein first, then veggies, fruit and whole grains. But I also eat ice cream, desert, bread, alcohol, cake, etc.... just everything in moderation. I do not excercise and I've never tracked or counted or measured my food. I didn't have surgery just to be on a diet the rest of my life. I do make sure I drink at least 64oz of Fluid and I do take my Vitamins (but I've always taken Vitamins, so this is no change)
Other than making much healthier food choices, my life isn't a whole lot different than preop. Unless you count Having a normal BMI, shopping in regular stores for clothes, not being in pain everyday, spending a lot less money on groceries, and being able to hike, climb stairs, etc without getting out of breath, Perhaps I am an anomaly, but I just wanted to let you know that there is more than one way to be successful and postop life does not have to be all that complicated.

That was a very sneaky title to your post...I was waiting for the "but now....." So glad it had a happy ending!

STAY. OFF. THE. scale. (and not losing for 3 days is NOT a stall)

There is no such thing as "cheating" in my world. I simply make choices, whether it's a piece of chicken or a piece of cake. And I never feel "guilty". I control what goes in my mouth, not the other way around.
During the first few months following surgery, I chose to follow my surgeons orders to a T so I would not have complications. For those of you eating solid foods and unhealthy foods so soon postop, you are simply choosing to compromise your health. But as consenting adults, that is your right.

That was a very sneaky title to your post...I was waiting for the "but now....." So glad it had a happy ending!

December 2013 (day I started preop diet) vs December 2014. I'm 19 months out now but look the same as 12 months post (with the addition of a new tattoo)

September 2013 ( 3 months before surgery) vs September 2014 (9 months postop and 10 pounds below goal

The only thing that limits you to only losing 60% of your excess weight is you. I've lost over 100% and am maintaining easily. I eat whatever I want whenever I'm hungry....protein first, then veggies, fruit and whole grains. But I also eat ice cream, desert, bread, alcohol, cake, etc.... just everything in moderation. I do not excercise and I've never tracked or counted or measured my food. I didn't have surgery just to be on a diet the rest of my life. I do make sure I drink at least 64oz of Fluid and I do take my Vitamins (but I've always taken Vitamins, so this is no change)
Other than making much healthier food choices, my life isn't a whole lot different than preop. Unless you count Having a normal BMI, shopping in regular stores for clothes, not being in pain everyday, spending a lot less money on groceries, and being able to hike, climb stairs, etc without getting out of breath, Perhaps I am an anomaly, but I just wanted to let you know that there is more than one way to be successful and postop life does not have to be all that complicated.

The only thing that limits you to only losing 60% of your excess weight is you. I've lost over 100% and am maintaining easily. I eat whatever I want whenever I'm hungry....protein first, then veggies, fruit and whole grains. But I also eat ice cream, desert, bread, alcohol, cake, etc.... just everything in moderation. I do not excercise and I've never tracked or counted or measured my food. I didn't have surgery just to be on a diet the rest of my life. I do make sure I drink at least 64oz of Fluid and I do take my Vitamins (but I've always taken Vitamins, so this is no change)
Other than making much healthier food choices, my life isn't a whole lot different than preop. Unless you count Having a normal BMI, shopping in regular stores for clothes, not being in pain everyday, spending a lot less money on groceries, and being able to hike, climb stairs, etc without getting out of breath, Perhaps I am an anomaly, but I just wanted to let you know that there is more than one way to be successful and postop life does not have to be all that complicated.